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All Things Ice Dance: Canadian

I have no idea how the clubs'/coaches' reputations or politiks would work within Skate Canada, but (if you ask me ;)) I will root for and wish for Weaver/Poje a podium finish, Ralph/Hill for a top ten finish and Paul/Islam for a spot at London Worlds, respectively. :)

I am also rooting for Elladj Balde and Maxim-Billy Fortin. :party: Aaaaaand of course Kevin Reynolds! :rock:

(did i write this before? guess so...:o:)
 
Just a few points to wrap it up:

1. Elvis Stojko has less to do with canadian ice dance than anyone I can imagine.

2. Bruce Lee was not Caucasian.

3. Kung Fu is an Asian martial art.

4. Both Paul and Asher should keep their shirts on.

5. I believe dragonlady was referring to Paul's latin costume, but the flamenco was equally unflattering.
 
Well, for that matter, there was whoever thought it was OK to draw a fake mustache on Paul (as a senior level competitor) for their Ragtime OD for their first season in seniors, a time when "looking juniorish" is what you definitely want to avoid.
 
Fake mustsache? I don't recall Paul ever having a fake mustache.

I do know that Skate Canada has a lot of say in costuming and if they feel the costumes aren't good, they will request a change. I also know that Marijane Stong came up with the costuming idea for Crone & Poirier's Eleanor Rigby program.
 
Just a few points to wrap it up:

1. Elvis Stojko has less to do with canadian ice dance than anyone I can imagine.

2. Bruce Lee was not Caucasian.

3. Kung Fu is an Asian martial art.
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All these things are true, but I'd argue that they don't negate my point.
 
Yes, Doris the fake moustache was pretty awful, and so was the rest of the costuming. Her hat and big puffed sleeves, for instance.

Dragonlady, I suspect that the name of Maryjane Stong must be sacrosanct, but, for me, the first question in costuming should be,"Does it flatter the skater?", the second question should be ," Is it appropriate to the theme?" I think those costumes failed on both counts.

And, just for the record, I think fake hair, white-face, black-face, painted brown unitards,(to look like aboriginies), and painted-on tears are inappropriate for an athletic competition.

IP, I thought your point was well taken. Somehow, in this rambling thread, Elvis Stojko was resurrected to prove that 'western, caucasian roles' are prevalent in canadian ice dance. Go figure. I was attempting to re-enter the atmosphere, in preparation for touchdown.
 
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So, I wake up to the spectre of Paul's moustache being raised and wonder if I'm really still caught up in a nightmare ...I ranted a blue streak about those costumes at the time, but you were all spared since I either didn't have a computer, or was still too shy to talk ..:laugh:

What was that , blue dog ?..I got "Forbidden"..is that a comment on the costumes.?;)

Math..I don't mind the idea of hats , as long as they stay on,;).. but that was too dark, too drab and hid her face..Hated the plaid-ish / checked fabric of the skirt , the sleeves combined with the hat made her seem to have no neck at all, and no one mentions that she appears to have ruffles on her pants.. it seemed to be a mish-mash of eras. Just wrong . Wouldn't she have looked better in a tea dress ? I think they started out saying Paul was a waiter, for some reason,( but may have dropped that ) and in the end, as well as being unflattering, nothing tied that dance to the music , for me.

If Skate Canada keeps an eye on costumes, who fills this role , one person , or a committee ? Who decided on C/P's costumes for ER..Maryjane Stong, or was she simply executing someone else's idea? The costumes weren't flattering, IMO. They may have been better than many things we'd seen Vanessa and Paul suffer with in the past, but really had nothing to do with anything.They neither evoked any feeling, nor fit with the season-long evolving storyline / explanation of the program. ( And why, oh why , was no initial attention paid to the SD costumes ?)

How did a travesty such as R/H's Cinderella costumes get the nod ?..Do they only focus on the top one or two couples , while maybe just keeping a general eye out for any egregious nudity ?

If SC indeed scrutinizes costumes , they need a better scrutineer.

Oops! Interruption.
 
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In the end, Colleen, the skaters need to grow a backbone and basically say--no. They need to look at a mirror while wearing a costume and say...no. The same with the choreography. Just because Dean does your choreography doesn't mean it's a good fit.

I remember the story of Michelle Kwan telling Frank Carroll and Lori Nichol that she didn't like the first cut of "Salome" (they used Song of Sadko and Bacchanale). In the end, I'm glad she did.
 
Blue dog, that is the question I've often asked. Aren't these teenagers, can't they stamp their feet and say, " I"m not going out there like this"?

ETA: In passing, I must say that Wing and Lowe's students have , so far, been well, and appropriately costumed. Not the norm at the centre for excellence.

I simply can't resist adding to this. Some of us, for some time, have felt that when the choreography is done, at the centre for excellence, the skater is led through a creaking door, down a winding stair to the Costume Dungeon. There they must select a costume from row after row of nifty little neon numbers, with one sleeve and suspenders.
 
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I was just going to edit this onto my last post , but noticed others had chimed in ..so ( ahem ) Furthermore...:biggrin:

I agree with slipslidin's costume musts ..must be flattering and somehow fit the theme. Too often they seem to start with the theme, work something out on paper..with no real regard to whether a person can dance it or what kind of body they're putting it on . And the next thing is fabric. (yes , I sort of did shout that. ) Whoever executes the design , has to pay attention to the weight and texture of the fabric..will the weight make it hang funny ..will the stiffness make it stick out too much..does it have enough "give"? .. Does cost come into it ?.. Sometimes you can't save cost by skimping on fabric , or cutting on the straight when the design cries out for cutting on the bias .. If you can't find the colour or weight you need at a price you can afford..you'd better change the colour or change the design .. it's better than having to scrap the whole costume , or looking awful for the whole season .
 
Well I didn't find the Ragtime costumes egregious at all. They suited the theme perfectly and didn't make me gag, unlike the costumes of P&B at the same event which I thought were hideous.

I'm find the obsession with criticizing anything coming out of Scarborough almost laughable although I agree that some of Kharis' dresses to be very unflattering.
 
Was that the year P&B had the break-away costumes with the cone bra? Must add break-aways to my list of no,no's for competition.
 
I'm find the obsession with criticizing anything coming out of Scarborough almost laughable although I agree that some of Kharis' dresses to be very unflattering.

Why do you find it laughable, DragonLady? Everything in skating is criticized.
 
What was that , blue dog ?..I got "Forbidden"..is that a comment on the costumes.?

The link works if you copy and paste the url directly into the adress bar. (It;s Alexei Urmnanov in a big red cape.)

http://www.scratchspin.com/1999/worldpros99/fs-3030.jpg

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In the end, Colleen, the skaters need to grow a backbone and basically say--no. They need to look at a mirror while wearing a costume and say...no.

I don't know. It might be easier said than done. Tatiana Tarasova put Lysacek in this. Do you say no to Tarasova? :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1wYqsMGO-0
 
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