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The takeoff is always taken into consideration. That's why skaters' triple toe loops are downgraded when they do toe axels. Its also why it is so very difficult to get credit for a triple loop as the second jump in a combination-the mechanics of the jump lead to it being excessively pre-rotated, on average. Any slight ur on landing and the jump is downgraded.
The following is from the Technical Panel Handbook
http://static.isu.org/media/104198/tp_handbook_singles_2013-14_version_13-07-18.pdf
You 100% misunderstood what I wrote.
Congratulations.
When examining a cheated takeoff. The panel doesn't look at the landing and say (it was overrotated, so just give her the jump she still got x.y rotations in the air).
When examining the cheated landing, the don't look at the take off and say (she took off early, just give her the jump cause she got x.y rotations in the air).
If the take off is too far, the jump is UR regardless of the landing.
If the landing is short, the jump is UR regardless of the take off.
When examining one or the other, the other end is not examined and used to justify or debunk the call. They are examined in isolation of each other.
Hope that clears that up.
I'm more than aware the take off is checked it it looks cheated, and how it is checked. I just explained all this up thread.