Anna Shcherbakova
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Anna on the ride to Megasport, but she also asks people to help homeless cats (link in her telegram channel):
Anna Shcherbakova
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All of you already know the Mafia and the story of how I got it
I think that the day we found her, I can consider one of the happiest
And the Mafia and I really want each of you to find your happiness too
April 3 in Moscow and April 10 in St. Petersburg will host an exhibition of cats from shelters #allpokotiku
100 wonderful cats will be waiting for you at the exhibitions: 70 in Moscow and 30 in St. Petersburg. All of them need family and care, any of them can be picked up right on the day of the exhibition (a passport is needed to draw up a contract).
Participating cats are healthy, vaccinated, dewormed and ready to move to a new home
Entrance to the exhibitions is absolutely free and free, but we ask you to register in advance using the links below so that we can better prepare
Moscow - April 3 12:00-18:00, Artplay Portal, Nizhnyaya Syromyatnicheskaya st., 10, building 6
registration - @vsemposobake
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Can I adopt Anna along with a cat?
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She's 18 already, she will have to agree with being adopted
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I can´t believe that cute little Anna is already 18. It feels like yesterday that I saw her dreamcatcher program.She's 18 already, she will have to agree with being adopted
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Since Anna has come of age, she herself now has every right to adopt you. But I think that she will be a rather strict stepmom. You will have to train a lot and follow the daily routine.
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An old interview with Anna's parents. Published May 25, 2020. Anna is already a two-time champion of Russia, a silver medalist of the European Championship. But the World Figure Skating Championships have been canceled, the quarantine continues, uncertainty lies ahead - in this the situation is similar to today's.
https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...yarnosti-figurnogo-kataniya-intervyu-1675705/
I searched for this interview here, I didn’t find it, but if it did exist - well, sorry for re-publishing:
- Julia, Stanislav, after self-isolation, does your head feel dizzy when children are constantly around? The third month in this mode.
Julia: - Anya's last training session was on March 20, on Friday. And on Monday, the children began school holidays, which smoothly flowed into self-isolation. We didn't expect it to last this long. And now, two months later, she returns to the ice.
Stanislav: - For me, of course, this is unusual, to be sure. We live in a small country house, and there are 6 of us here. During the day, we have a real anthill - from each window there are voices, online study, online work. In the afternoon we gather at the common table. Then again an individual program - who trains, who works, who plays with the dog. And exactly at 21:00 general meeting - we play board games. Tried everything that was, ordered new ones. We also decided that everyone would keep a quarantine diary, and we would read them later when everyone grew up. We learn a lot about ourselves, for sure. The biggest trouble was when the Internet was gone for several days, almost a disaster! And the rest is even fun.
Julia: - The children finally have the opportunity to get acquainted with the household, the vacuum cleaner, the kitchen. (Laughs.)
- Anna said that she is a rather independent child with her own opinion, and you trust her. But I happened to read the words of Yulia that you are stricter than Eteri Georgievna. Where do you draw this line? Stanislav, it turns out, is a “good policeman”?
Stanislav: “Policeman” is definitely not about me. And good - yes, sometimes I am. If everyone goes to bed on time...
Julia: - Anya has always been very responsible and inquisitive. She went to kindergarten every day. And we managed to combine training with a full-fledged visit to school, at least the first two classes. Figure skating is an individual sport, and it is very important for a child to be socialized. Communication only with athletes is not enough. In kindergarten, school, the child understands that figure skating is not the whole world, but only a small part of it, even if it is important for him. As a child, Anya went to drawing, music classes, to the pool, even tried to play tennis a little. Later, all this, unfortunately, had to be abandoned.
I am strict in that there is no word "tomorrow" for me. No matter how tired Anya is after a training session or how she would like to sleep in the morning, she knows that classes with teachers cannot be missed. Although lately I have become more loyal here. But then dad appears, who says that physics should be taught, and mathematics puts the mind in order. (Laughs.)
- Can you advise her something in the field of figure skating? Music for the program?
Julia: - When children are just starting to figure skating, parents are often asked to help pick up music. Of course, I did it too. Always fail. The coaches did a great job with this issue without me.
Stanislav: - As for figure skating, I am a pure spectator. Yes, I tried to timidly ask questions: “Why is it like this here? Or maybe it's better like this? The answer was always the same: “Dad, you don’t understand anything at all! So, so, and only so. Sometimes, however, an explanation followed, why this is so. Reasonable, no doubt. Especially if you perceive intonations and see facial expressions.
However, I like being a spectator. I don't understand jumps, spins, or other technical details. I can’t even highlight the step sequence in the program. I look according to the principle "touches - does not touch." When your child raises an entire hall, it's an indescribable feeling. Pride for having coped, betrayed, opened up, pulled out, collected, endured, and even preserved the image. After all, the hall will not rise if it does not feel all this! And at the same time understanding how much you had to overcome and what to go through for this. It is at such moments that there is a feeling that, yes, we live for them.
Is Anna alone at the rink? Which one of you goes to training more often?
Julia: - I am present at most trainings. For myself, I analyze what I succeeded in, over what I didn’t work enough, in my opinion. Sometimes I can comment. But in general, I think that I should remain a mother. Moreover, I am not an expert in figure skating. My role is more of a psychological support.
Stanislav: - I'm only during the summer training camp - it's interesting to look at the creative process, the staging of new programs.
- Which of you goes to competitions more often?
Julia: - I go to all the competitions, but I don’t watch, probably, from the age of 8. My nerves can’t withstand the stress at all. As a rule, Anya herself calls after the performance and tells how she skated. It is important to me whether she is satisfied with herself, and this does not always depend on the place.
Stanislav: - On the day of the competition, Anya and her mother have their own, thoughtful ritual. And if I also flew in, then breakfast, control training - and then I eliminate myself. The right attitude in figure skating is the key to success, and the girls should not interfere with getting ready. I walk around the city, looking at the sights. And I come to the arena closer to the performance.
- Who more often discusses performances with Anya, gives advice?
Stanislav: - This is her mother. I just admire.
Julia: - Since I spend much more time with Anya in training and competitions than dad, then, probably, she listens to my opinion more. But I'm definitely not an authority on this issue, which I do not pretend to be.
- And the last thing: who last scolded her? I hope this hasn't happened in a long time.
Stanislav: - Well, why. We live together. Some people do not always live up to their mother's expectations in terms of the level of order in their room. It pops up intermittently...
- It just sometimes seems that in Russian culture, parents are often much more fans of figure skating or the same musical activities than children. They drag you to the skating rink, they force you, they say, come on, work. Is it wild for you?
Julia: - I do not consider sport to be something vital and necessary. This is Anya's choice. She does not have to prove something to me on the ice, only to herself and of her own free will.
Stanislav: - Anya does not need to be forced. Rather, on the contrary - if it seems to her that we are late for the skating rink, then she turns into a little imp. Neither to finish the scrambled eggs, nor to tie the shoelaces, nothing is impossible. She runs in circles, swears, pushes me out of the house with all her limbs: “Dad, we are late, don’t you understand ?!”
- Your family is not the case when a career in sports is inherited from parents to children. I read that you tried to dissuade Anya from a career in professional sports. Did everything come together at once, what she wants and likes?
Stanislav: - It so happened that she became attached to figure skating, and it is simply impossible to dissuade her. She needs, she wants, she is interested in everything - she follows others, watches old skates, remembers an unimaginable amount of details. Who skated to what music, who had what set, who did it and who didn’t, and what points they gave in the end. He compares the podiums of different years, talks about the layouts - why did he have such a set, because he could ride more expensive?
- Yulia, when you brought Anya to the rink at the age of 3.5 for the company with her sister, did you think that everything would turn out like this - medals, prize money? When did this confidence begin to appear?
Julia: - We are both from academic campuses, where, first of all, we paid attention to education, and children went in for sports exclusively for health. And I brought my children to the ice rink for health. I had absolutely no idea where I was. I began to realize something after Anya joined the group with Eteri Georgievna.
Inna, Anya's older sister, started skating on an outdoor ice box near the house. I just wanted to try ice skating. My friend, whose daughter was engaged in figure skating, seeing the desire of the child, helped to enroll in Khrustalny in the middle of the year. At that time it was the most ordinary sports school. There were no well-known coaches, students.
A year later, the same friend persuaded me to bring Anya to the skating rink. We are still joking - we don’t know whether to thank her or “kill” her, since our usual life ended there.
Were there serious casualties?
Julia: - Firstly, I had to drive to take the children to training, and I don’t really like it, the first trips were a lot of stress. Secondly, to quit my job in order to take my children to training, which I still regret. And a lot of things had to change, just to take the children to training. One year I remembered for a long time with a shudder. Training started at 6 am, we got up at 4.30. The day free from the skating rink was in the middle of the week, I had to get up for school. And on the weekend again on the skating rink.
Anya began to study in a group with her older sister, where the children were two years older than her. It seems to me that these were ideal conditions: she reached out for the elders, but at the same time no one pinned any hopes on her. There were a lot of medals in children's competitions. But we still did not think about a sports career. It just didn't cross my mind. Before moving to Eteri Georgievna. Anya moved to her in the Olympic season, and we saw how Yulia Lipnitskaya is preparing, Zhenya Medvedeva has just started competing in juniors. Then, slowly, I began to understand that figure skating could be something more for Anya than just playing sports.
- Did you have moments when Anya and you thought - "it's time to finish this figure skating" and wanted to quit everything? There was a period of difficult injuries, especially the last one.
Stanislav: - If the question was about a broken leg, then the point was not even whether Anya would quit skating or not. After six weeks in a full cast, the leg looks quite unusual. Anyone who has seen this knows. It's just a shapeless thing that hardly bends, and looks nothing like the second leg, healthy. Anya was 13 years old, a period of growth, and we needed a lot of faith in the power of nature in order to calm ourselves - everything will even out, the legs will become the same, and the child will be able to walk like everyone else, without limping. We persuaded themselves with difficulty. And returning to the skating rink - I perceived it as a great miracle, no less.
Julia: - I had such moments, it seemed to me that sport deprives a child of a full life, and does not give her any new opportunities. Now I have changed my point of view. Firstly, I see that Anya really cannot imagine her life without figure skating, and few people manage to find their destiny at such an early age. Secondly, I see that this is not entertainment, but an interesting and promising job.
As for injuries, we had a very hard time with the first fracture of the arm. It happened on vacation. Then it seemed that something irreparable had happened. A broken leg was also a serious test, but there were no thoughts of completion. By that time, Anya no longer left us in doubt that figure skating was EVERYTHING for her, in capital letters.
- Concluding about education and alternatives: Anya says that even now she is constantly “giving up school”. There is an example of her favorite skater Nathan Chen with Yale. Would you like Anna to enter, let's say, not a sports university? Maybe she has preferences to talk about?
Julia: - If Anya decides to continue to connect her adult life with figure skating, then specialized education is necessary. And it’s strange not to get a diploma, just because someone seems to have a non-prestigious physical education institute. But I will be glad if she manages to get more than one education.
Stanislav: - I would like, firstly, that Anya had the opportunity to enter a non-sporting university. And, secondly, so that she still entered it. If she ultimately decides to dedicate her life to figure skating, okay, great. But it should be a real choice, where there are other options, and not a forced decision, because she simply does not know how to do anything else. Anya has a lively and tenacious mind, she will cope with both sports and education at the same time. And Nathan is a really good example. In Japan, I saw several times how he opened a computer, a notebook and began to study in between shows. And the way he built his life in the last season, having time for everything and everywhere, suggests that the guy has complete order in his head and the highest self-discipline. We can only envy him.
- Now there is a big discussion about the length of a career in figure skating. ISU can raise the age and, apparently, wants to extend these same careers. Do you think it's really a tragedy when people leave at 17, or is it an opportunity to reveal yourself in a new way?
Julia: - Figure skating is an early sport. Children begin to train at the age of three, at the age of 15 they reach the adult level. If all this is taken into account, then a sports career no longer seems so short. And I agree that there is nothing wrong with being on the threshold of new discoveries and opportunities at the age of 17-18.
Stanislav: - If Anya finishes at 17, then of course I will be upset. In addition to being a quadist, she is also an artist, the transfer of images is her forte. At 17, and even at 20, some images are simply too early to reveal. It will be an unfinished song, no matter what medals it has collected by that moment.
How do you like this season? Based on its results, we can say - did Anna achieve more than expected at the beginning? Or is it a shame for some kind of start, where a little bit was not enough?
Stanislav: - I'm sorry for the World Championship. The rest of the starts in the season, Anya was worthy, we can only be glad for them.
- Let's ask specifically about the European Championship - there were not enough points for three points. It just so happened that without the triple Axel, Anya needed all the clean quadruples? Or is this a superficial explanation, and the reasons are deeper?
Stanislav: - Only conspiracy theories are deeper, this is not my profession. Anya performed well, points are given by judges, and experts interpret. I am the dad of an athlete, who understands points very approximately.
Julia: — I think it was a successful season. There is such competition among girls that places are sometimes decided by a few hundredths. Three points is a lot.
- A very tight fight was in the trio of Eteri Tutberidze, he was called TSCHK, Anya liked Triple A more. Have you crossed paths with families, discussed the successes of your daughters?
Stanislav: Anya doesn't like TSCHK, or Triple A, or any other abbreviations. Other girls, probably, too. After all, they spend a lot of time and health to please the audience. And in return, in order to please them, the fans just need to take a minute of their time and write the name in full. It is clear that abbreviations are convenient when communicating online, but you should not expect that the girls themselves will like them.
- The eternal question - is friendship with competitors in an individual sport real? Can we say that Anya is friends with Alena, Sasha?
Stanislav: - All winter they had some kind of hectic activity online in the evenings. That is, they communicate not only at the rink. And friendship or not, time will tell. But then they will definitely have something to remember over a cup of tea - I hope they will take advantage of this.
Julia: - I would say that all the girls communicate well with each other. But they don't spend time together outside the rink. Of the skaters, Anya is friends with Polina Tsurskaya, but they practically were not rivals on ice.
- A couple of weeks ago, an active transfer campaign took place in Russian figure skating, there were many rumors about leaving Khrustalny, which were not confirmed. Were you, Anya, offered to leave?
Julia: - No, there were no such proposals.
- Did you manage to understand what kind of hacking happened, who left messages on behalf of Anya in social networks? Was it something new for you or are you already used to all sorts of fakes?
Stanislav: - We have long been accustomed to fakes, and hacking is someone's petty joke with unclear goals. Even by the time of the posts, it was obvious that this was not Anya, not to mention the content. An episode that is not worth watching at all.
- There is talk of Eteri Georgievna as a tough coach. But you definitely know more about this than many journalists. How do you differentiate powers? Still, Tutberidze became a superstar, didn’t you notice the “star disease”?
Julia: - What is the difference between the training process in this group - the fact that parents not only can, but preferably should be present at the training. It is believed that this is how children work better. I agree with that. Coaches should pay attention to everyone, we only need our child. And even laymen like me, over time, begin to understand something and count turns in spins. (Laughs.) In my opinion, there should always be a distance between the coach and the parents. And trust. These are not just beautiful words, this is a necessity. If you doubt the coach, your child will also doubt him. And then there will be no result.
Stanislav: - Eteri Georgievna is by nature a very proud and independent person. And quite selective in communication. From the outside, this may seem like a star disease, but in fact it has nothing to do with her success. And look how much time she spends at the rink, and how many small children she has in the group. With star disease, unpredictable kids are not invested like that. My personal opinion, I do not pretend to anything.
Julia: - Eteri Georgievna is looking for an approach to everyone. It's very exciting to watch her work on the programs. She is so immersed in music, the image is created like a picture. Together with Daniil Markovich, they are looking for music, thinking over the choreography. And then in the course of the season, there is a constant work on programs, they are overgrown with new details. Everyone in the group is working on the jumps, and Eteri Georgievna, and Sergey Viktorovich, and Daniil Markovich.
Are you already thinking about the Olympics? Is there an idea that everything that happens is its forerunner? Or is this the wrong attitude to the situation?
Julia: - They talk so much about the Olympics. It seems to me that it is not entirely fair that three whole years pass in anticipation of the next Olympics and in talk about preparing for it.
Stanislav: - Now the real sports life is already happening. Grand Prix, main starts, victories and defeats. And the Olympics is a special competition that happens every 4 years. And in the women's singles, the result strongly depends on what year this start fell on. Therefore, I personally do not share this whole fetish for the Olympics. In football, basketball, tennis, this is not the main start at all. I have more respect for athletes who have managed to build a long career, earn a name and authority for themselves with this.
- Stanislav, is it true that you are a physicist-programmer, and you work in online advertising?
Stanislav: Yes, it is.
— May I ask you a question as an advertiser? Don't you think that figure skating in advertising is just lagging behind? Can you recommend any trick?
Stanislav: - I'm more of an IT specialist than an advertiser. And there is a huge difference in the life principles of IT and figure skating. In IT, everything runs and changes on the go, but in figure skating, on the contrary, traditions and conservatism are strong. Each approach has its pros and cons, and that's the beauty of diversity. I can say what would happen if figure skating was an IT project. A test tournament (or series) would be chosen - we call it a "sandbox", where new ideas would be constantly tested. Both intelligent and insane. Age, quads, grading system, new types of programs, skating with four - everything that can bring us closer to the goal. What is the goal, by the way?
- Increase the popularity of figure skating, for example.
Stanislav: Let's assume. Then, according to the results of the test, we look - and which tournament gathers more viewers in the stands and views on YouTube? We make allowances for the effect of novelty, and decide whether to expand the novelty to the main starts (“roll out into combat”) or quickly move on to the next test. I can say that for one successful test, there can easily be 2-3 unsuccessful ones. And what will shoot in the end, it is impossible to predict in advance. Therefore, in IT, everything changes at the speed of a kaleidoscope. And constantly buggy and hangs, too, therefore. (laughs) As a result, the tenth version usually has little in common with the first. But if the tenth still has a chance in the competitive struggle, then the first one definitely does not. This is the logic. However, in traditional figure skating and without IT, they try something - the ice Oscar, for example. I am sure that the ceremony itself, and the selection of winners - all this would be a bright and discussed story.
At least it's something new.
Stanislav: - I'm also really looking forward to testing the jumping competitions. Moreover, I really want to see them in a team format. 4v4, elimination game, two jumps each, the difficulty is cumulative. The decisive day, 8 teams of participants, the quarter-finals and semi-finals are already over, only Russia and Japan are left on the ice, the final is ahead, the tension is on the limit! And now, after the decisive exit, the whole hall jumps up, the winners rejoice, flags, bouquets, tears of joy! .. And tears of defeat. These emotions are not in figure skating now, it's like a penalty shootout in football. By the way, her football fans did not immediately accept. But this is the growth of popularity - new viewers, new disputes, new millions of views. Team-to-team jumping has long been practiced at the Tutberidze school. Right now, in April-May, they would jump every day. And this is the format that Anyutka talks excitedly about in the evenings. How they shared it, how everything went through the rounds, who left and who failed, who failed, and who justified. All this in colors and faces. I, even listening, begin to experience! Imagine what would have happened in the stands...
- Eteri Georgievna's ideas would be in ISU. Perhaps there are not enough sponsors for the sandboxes. Can you estimate what is the figure skater's budget per year? I remember Serafima Sakhanovich told me that about 1 million rubles were spent on her a year.
Stanislav: - Our budget fell to almost zero after Anya joined the Russian team. The federation, the Ministry of Sports and, of course, Sambo-70 took on the main costs.
Julia: - Classes at the sports school are free. Then it all depends on the excitement of the parents. Additional classes are held at commercial ice rinks. When I brought my daughters to figure skating, the skate cost 300 rubles, then 500. The madness began after the start of the Ice Age on television. Demand began to exceed supply and prices began to skyrocket.
Once, in the younger group, one of the mothers said that her husband calls us all a figure-skating sect. And indeed, I can say by myself that whether you like it or not, you gradually succumb to the general mood, the arms race. It is enough to show up to one crazy parent dragging their child for several skatings a day, and you seriously begin to doubt: “Are you doing the right thing? Is your child doing too little? In our time, two extra ice sessions and one choreography-stretch per week were considered normal.
It was not allowed to watch the training, we sometimes peeped from behind the door. But personally, at that time I absolutely did not understand even the basics of figure skating, so I could only notice falls. Natasha Tsurskaya taught me to distinguish one jump from another when Anya started doing triple jumps, that is, at the age of 10. But I still can confuse a flip with a sheepskin coat, and a salchow with a ritberger. (Laughs.)
- This year was also successful for Anya in terms of prize money. Have you already spent them on something?
Stanislav: - We set aside prize money for Anya for the future. We are trying not only to preserve them, but also to increase them. We collect a portfolio of a novice investor, everything is according to the rules - part for a deposit, part for currency, part for shares. By the way, it is especially interesting to invest in stocks now, because the vaccine will appear sooner or later, and there will be growth. In general, we improve financial literacy and look at how the money itself works, it's amusing. Moreover, Anya ultimately decides for herself where and how much she is ready to invest. She goes to the bank herself, understands deposits, signs contracts. He communicates with tellers, they are also curious: “Girl, where did you get this money from?” — "Earned." A couple of times they guessed with promotions, and it turned out that one percent is already enough to upgrade your phone to the latest model. It turns out, for free, simply because they did the necessary actions on time. What, I ask, are we updating, or are we still waiting? While waiting, this was the answer.
https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...yarnosti-figurnogo-kataniya-intervyu-1675705/
I searched for this interview here, I didn’t find it, but if it did exist - well, sorry for re-publishing:
- Julia, Stanislav, after self-isolation, does your head feel dizzy when children are constantly around? The third month in this mode.
Julia: - Anya's last training session was on March 20, on Friday. And on Monday, the children began school holidays, which smoothly flowed into self-isolation. We didn't expect it to last this long. And now, two months later, she returns to the ice.
Stanislav: - For me, of course, this is unusual, to be sure. We live in a small country house, and there are 6 of us here. During the day, we have a real anthill - from each window there are voices, online study, online work. In the afternoon we gather at the common table. Then again an individual program - who trains, who works, who plays with the dog. And exactly at 21:00 general meeting - we play board games. Tried everything that was, ordered new ones. We also decided that everyone would keep a quarantine diary, and we would read them later when everyone grew up. We learn a lot about ourselves, for sure. The biggest trouble was when the Internet was gone for several days, almost a disaster! And the rest is even fun.
Julia: - The children finally have the opportunity to get acquainted with the household, the vacuum cleaner, the kitchen. (Laughs.)
- Anna said that she is a rather independent child with her own opinion, and you trust her. But I happened to read the words of Yulia that you are stricter than Eteri Georgievna. Where do you draw this line? Stanislav, it turns out, is a “good policeman”?
Stanislav: “Policeman” is definitely not about me. And good - yes, sometimes I am. If everyone goes to bed on time...
Julia: - Anya has always been very responsible and inquisitive. She went to kindergarten every day. And we managed to combine training with a full-fledged visit to school, at least the first two classes. Figure skating is an individual sport, and it is very important for a child to be socialized. Communication only with athletes is not enough. In kindergarten, school, the child understands that figure skating is not the whole world, but only a small part of it, even if it is important for him. As a child, Anya went to drawing, music classes, to the pool, even tried to play tennis a little. Later, all this, unfortunately, had to be abandoned.
I am strict in that there is no word "tomorrow" for me. No matter how tired Anya is after a training session or how she would like to sleep in the morning, she knows that classes with teachers cannot be missed. Although lately I have become more loyal here. But then dad appears, who says that physics should be taught, and mathematics puts the mind in order. (Laughs.)
- Can you advise her something in the field of figure skating? Music for the program?
Julia: - When children are just starting to figure skating, parents are often asked to help pick up music. Of course, I did it too. Always fail. The coaches did a great job with this issue without me.
Stanislav: - As for figure skating, I am a pure spectator. Yes, I tried to timidly ask questions: “Why is it like this here? Or maybe it's better like this? The answer was always the same: “Dad, you don’t understand anything at all! So, so, and only so. Sometimes, however, an explanation followed, why this is so. Reasonable, no doubt. Especially if you perceive intonations and see facial expressions.
However, I like being a spectator. I don't understand jumps, spins, or other technical details. I can’t even highlight the step sequence in the program. I look according to the principle "touches - does not touch." When your child raises an entire hall, it's an indescribable feeling. Pride for having coped, betrayed, opened up, pulled out, collected, endured, and even preserved the image. After all, the hall will not rise if it does not feel all this! And at the same time understanding how much you had to overcome and what to go through for this. It is at such moments that there is a feeling that, yes, we live for them.
Is Anna alone at the rink? Which one of you goes to training more often?
Julia: - I am present at most trainings. For myself, I analyze what I succeeded in, over what I didn’t work enough, in my opinion. Sometimes I can comment. But in general, I think that I should remain a mother. Moreover, I am not an expert in figure skating. My role is more of a psychological support.
Stanislav: - I'm only during the summer training camp - it's interesting to look at the creative process, the staging of new programs.
- Which of you goes to competitions more often?
Julia: - I go to all the competitions, but I don’t watch, probably, from the age of 8. My nerves can’t withstand the stress at all. As a rule, Anya herself calls after the performance and tells how she skated. It is important to me whether she is satisfied with herself, and this does not always depend on the place.
Stanislav: - On the day of the competition, Anya and her mother have their own, thoughtful ritual. And if I also flew in, then breakfast, control training - and then I eliminate myself. The right attitude in figure skating is the key to success, and the girls should not interfere with getting ready. I walk around the city, looking at the sights. And I come to the arena closer to the performance.
- Who more often discusses performances with Anya, gives advice?
Stanislav: - This is her mother. I just admire.
Julia: - Since I spend much more time with Anya in training and competitions than dad, then, probably, she listens to my opinion more. But I'm definitely not an authority on this issue, which I do not pretend to be.
- And the last thing: who last scolded her? I hope this hasn't happened in a long time.
Stanislav: - Well, why. We live together. Some people do not always live up to their mother's expectations in terms of the level of order in their room. It pops up intermittently...
- It just sometimes seems that in Russian culture, parents are often much more fans of figure skating or the same musical activities than children. They drag you to the skating rink, they force you, they say, come on, work. Is it wild for you?
Julia: - I do not consider sport to be something vital and necessary. This is Anya's choice. She does not have to prove something to me on the ice, only to herself and of her own free will.
Stanislav: - Anya does not need to be forced. Rather, on the contrary - if it seems to her that we are late for the skating rink, then she turns into a little imp. Neither to finish the scrambled eggs, nor to tie the shoelaces, nothing is impossible. She runs in circles, swears, pushes me out of the house with all her limbs: “Dad, we are late, don’t you understand ?!”
- Your family is not the case when a career in sports is inherited from parents to children. I read that you tried to dissuade Anya from a career in professional sports. Did everything come together at once, what she wants and likes?
Stanislav: - It so happened that she became attached to figure skating, and it is simply impossible to dissuade her. She needs, she wants, she is interested in everything - she follows others, watches old skates, remembers an unimaginable amount of details. Who skated to what music, who had what set, who did it and who didn’t, and what points they gave in the end. He compares the podiums of different years, talks about the layouts - why did he have such a set, because he could ride more expensive?
- Yulia, when you brought Anya to the rink at the age of 3.5 for the company with her sister, did you think that everything would turn out like this - medals, prize money? When did this confidence begin to appear?
Julia: - We are both from academic campuses, where, first of all, we paid attention to education, and children went in for sports exclusively for health. And I brought my children to the ice rink for health. I had absolutely no idea where I was. I began to realize something after Anya joined the group with Eteri Georgievna.
Inna, Anya's older sister, started skating on an outdoor ice box near the house. I just wanted to try ice skating. My friend, whose daughter was engaged in figure skating, seeing the desire of the child, helped to enroll in Khrustalny in the middle of the year. At that time it was the most ordinary sports school. There were no well-known coaches, students.
A year later, the same friend persuaded me to bring Anya to the skating rink. We are still joking - we don’t know whether to thank her or “kill” her, since our usual life ended there.
Were there serious casualties?
Julia: - Firstly, I had to drive to take the children to training, and I don’t really like it, the first trips were a lot of stress. Secondly, to quit my job in order to take my children to training, which I still regret. And a lot of things had to change, just to take the children to training. One year I remembered for a long time with a shudder. Training started at 6 am, we got up at 4.30. The day free from the skating rink was in the middle of the week, I had to get up for school. And on the weekend again on the skating rink.
Anya began to study in a group with her older sister, where the children were two years older than her. It seems to me that these were ideal conditions: she reached out for the elders, but at the same time no one pinned any hopes on her. There were a lot of medals in children's competitions. But we still did not think about a sports career. It just didn't cross my mind. Before moving to Eteri Georgievna. Anya moved to her in the Olympic season, and we saw how Yulia Lipnitskaya is preparing, Zhenya Medvedeva has just started competing in juniors. Then, slowly, I began to understand that figure skating could be something more for Anya than just playing sports.
- Did you have moments when Anya and you thought - "it's time to finish this figure skating" and wanted to quit everything? There was a period of difficult injuries, especially the last one.
Stanislav: - If the question was about a broken leg, then the point was not even whether Anya would quit skating or not. After six weeks in a full cast, the leg looks quite unusual. Anyone who has seen this knows. It's just a shapeless thing that hardly bends, and looks nothing like the second leg, healthy. Anya was 13 years old, a period of growth, and we needed a lot of faith in the power of nature in order to calm ourselves - everything will even out, the legs will become the same, and the child will be able to walk like everyone else, without limping. We persuaded themselves with difficulty. And returning to the skating rink - I perceived it as a great miracle, no less.
Julia: - I had such moments, it seemed to me that sport deprives a child of a full life, and does not give her any new opportunities. Now I have changed my point of view. Firstly, I see that Anya really cannot imagine her life without figure skating, and few people manage to find their destiny at such an early age. Secondly, I see that this is not entertainment, but an interesting and promising job.
As for injuries, we had a very hard time with the first fracture of the arm. It happened on vacation. Then it seemed that something irreparable had happened. A broken leg was also a serious test, but there were no thoughts of completion. By that time, Anya no longer left us in doubt that figure skating was EVERYTHING for her, in capital letters.
- Concluding about education and alternatives: Anya says that even now she is constantly “giving up school”. There is an example of her favorite skater Nathan Chen with Yale. Would you like Anna to enter, let's say, not a sports university? Maybe she has preferences to talk about?
Julia: - If Anya decides to continue to connect her adult life with figure skating, then specialized education is necessary. And it’s strange not to get a diploma, just because someone seems to have a non-prestigious physical education institute. But I will be glad if she manages to get more than one education.
Stanislav: - I would like, firstly, that Anya had the opportunity to enter a non-sporting university. And, secondly, so that she still entered it. If she ultimately decides to dedicate her life to figure skating, okay, great. But it should be a real choice, where there are other options, and not a forced decision, because she simply does not know how to do anything else. Anya has a lively and tenacious mind, she will cope with both sports and education at the same time. And Nathan is a really good example. In Japan, I saw several times how he opened a computer, a notebook and began to study in between shows. And the way he built his life in the last season, having time for everything and everywhere, suggests that the guy has complete order in his head and the highest self-discipline. We can only envy him.
- Now there is a big discussion about the length of a career in figure skating. ISU can raise the age and, apparently, wants to extend these same careers. Do you think it's really a tragedy when people leave at 17, or is it an opportunity to reveal yourself in a new way?
Julia: - Figure skating is an early sport. Children begin to train at the age of three, at the age of 15 they reach the adult level. If all this is taken into account, then a sports career no longer seems so short. And I agree that there is nothing wrong with being on the threshold of new discoveries and opportunities at the age of 17-18.
Stanislav: - If Anya finishes at 17, then of course I will be upset. In addition to being a quadist, she is also an artist, the transfer of images is her forte. At 17, and even at 20, some images are simply too early to reveal. It will be an unfinished song, no matter what medals it has collected by that moment.
How do you like this season? Based on its results, we can say - did Anna achieve more than expected at the beginning? Or is it a shame for some kind of start, where a little bit was not enough?
Stanislav: - I'm sorry for the World Championship. The rest of the starts in the season, Anya was worthy, we can only be glad for them.
- Let's ask specifically about the European Championship - there were not enough points for three points. It just so happened that without the triple Axel, Anya needed all the clean quadruples? Or is this a superficial explanation, and the reasons are deeper?
Stanislav: - Only conspiracy theories are deeper, this is not my profession. Anya performed well, points are given by judges, and experts interpret. I am the dad of an athlete, who understands points very approximately.
Julia: — I think it was a successful season. There is such competition among girls that places are sometimes decided by a few hundredths. Three points is a lot.
- A very tight fight was in the trio of Eteri Tutberidze, he was called TSCHK, Anya liked Triple A more. Have you crossed paths with families, discussed the successes of your daughters?
Stanislav: Anya doesn't like TSCHK, or Triple A, or any other abbreviations. Other girls, probably, too. After all, they spend a lot of time and health to please the audience. And in return, in order to please them, the fans just need to take a minute of their time and write the name in full. It is clear that abbreviations are convenient when communicating online, but you should not expect that the girls themselves will like them.
- The eternal question - is friendship with competitors in an individual sport real? Can we say that Anya is friends with Alena, Sasha?
Stanislav: - All winter they had some kind of hectic activity online in the evenings. That is, they communicate not only at the rink. And friendship or not, time will tell. But then they will definitely have something to remember over a cup of tea - I hope they will take advantage of this.
Julia: - I would say that all the girls communicate well with each other. But they don't spend time together outside the rink. Of the skaters, Anya is friends with Polina Tsurskaya, but they practically were not rivals on ice.
- A couple of weeks ago, an active transfer campaign took place in Russian figure skating, there were many rumors about leaving Khrustalny, which were not confirmed. Were you, Anya, offered to leave?
Julia: - No, there were no such proposals.
- Did you manage to understand what kind of hacking happened, who left messages on behalf of Anya in social networks? Was it something new for you or are you already used to all sorts of fakes?
Stanislav: - We have long been accustomed to fakes, and hacking is someone's petty joke with unclear goals. Even by the time of the posts, it was obvious that this was not Anya, not to mention the content. An episode that is not worth watching at all.
- There is talk of Eteri Georgievna as a tough coach. But you definitely know more about this than many journalists. How do you differentiate powers? Still, Tutberidze became a superstar, didn’t you notice the “star disease”?
Julia: - What is the difference between the training process in this group - the fact that parents not only can, but preferably should be present at the training. It is believed that this is how children work better. I agree with that. Coaches should pay attention to everyone, we only need our child. And even laymen like me, over time, begin to understand something and count turns in spins. (Laughs.) In my opinion, there should always be a distance between the coach and the parents. And trust. These are not just beautiful words, this is a necessity. If you doubt the coach, your child will also doubt him. And then there will be no result.
Stanislav: - Eteri Georgievna is by nature a very proud and independent person. And quite selective in communication. From the outside, this may seem like a star disease, but in fact it has nothing to do with her success. And look how much time she spends at the rink, and how many small children she has in the group. With star disease, unpredictable kids are not invested like that. My personal opinion, I do not pretend to anything.
Julia: - Eteri Georgievna is looking for an approach to everyone. It's very exciting to watch her work on the programs. She is so immersed in music, the image is created like a picture. Together with Daniil Markovich, they are looking for music, thinking over the choreography. And then in the course of the season, there is a constant work on programs, they are overgrown with new details. Everyone in the group is working on the jumps, and Eteri Georgievna, and Sergey Viktorovich, and Daniil Markovich.
Are you already thinking about the Olympics? Is there an idea that everything that happens is its forerunner? Or is this the wrong attitude to the situation?
Julia: - They talk so much about the Olympics. It seems to me that it is not entirely fair that three whole years pass in anticipation of the next Olympics and in talk about preparing for it.
Stanislav: - Now the real sports life is already happening. Grand Prix, main starts, victories and defeats. And the Olympics is a special competition that happens every 4 years. And in the women's singles, the result strongly depends on what year this start fell on. Therefore, I personally do not share this whole fetish for the Olympics. In football, basketball, tennis, this is not the main start at all. I have more respect for athletes who have managed to build a long career, earn a name and authority for themselves with this.
- Stanislav, is it true that you are a physicist-programmer, and you work in online advertising?
Stanislav: Yes, it is.
— May I ask you a question as an advertiser? Don't you think that figure skating in advertising is just lagging behind? Can you recommend any trick?
Stanislav: - I'm more of an IT specialist than an advertiser. And there is a huge difference in the life principles of IT and figure skating. In IT, everything runs and changes on the go, but in figure skating, on the contrary, traditions and conservatism are strong. Each approach has its pros and cons, and that's the beauty of diversity. I can say what would happen if figure skating was an IT project. A test tournament (or series) would be chosen - we call it a "sandbox", where new ideas would be constantly tested. Both intelligent and insane. Age, quads, grading system, new types of programs, skating with four - everything that can bring us closer to the goal. What is the goal, by the way?
- Increase the popularity of figure skating, for example.
Stanislav: Let's assume. Then, according to the results of the test, we look - and which tournament gathers more viewers in the stands and views on YouTube? We make allowances for the effect of novelty, and decide whether to expand the novelty to the main starts (“roll out into combat”) or quickly move on to the next test. I can say that for one successful test, there can easily be 2-3 unsuccessful ones. And what will shoot in the end, it is impossible to predict in advance. Therefore, in IT, everything changes at the speed of a kaleidoscope. And constantly buggy and hangs, too, therefore. (laughs) As a result, the tenth version usually has little in common with the first. But if the tenth still has a chance in the competitive struggle, then the first one definitely does not. This is the logic. However, in traditional figure skating and without IT, they try something - the ice Oscar, for example. I am sure that the ceremony itself, and the selection of winners - all this would be a bright and discussed story.
At least it's something new.
Stanislav: - I'm also really looking forward to testing the jumping competitions. Moreover, I really want to see them in a team format. 4v4, elimination game, two jumps each, the difficulty is cumulative. The decisive day, 8 teams of participants, the quarter-finals and semi-finals are already over, only Russia and Japan are left on the ice, the final is ahead, the tension is on the limit! And now, after the decisive exit, the whole hall jumps up, the winners rejoice, flags, bouquets, tears of joy! .. And tears of defeat. These emotions are not in figure skating now, it's like a penalty shootout in football. By the way, her football fans did not immediately accept. But this is the growth of popularity - new viewers, new disputes, new millions of views. Team-to-team jumping has long been practiced at the Tutberidze school. Right now, in April-May, they would jump every day. And this is the format that Anyutka talks excitedly about in the evenings. How they shared it, how everything went through the rounds, who left and who failed, who failed, and who justified. All this in colors and faces. I, even listening, begin to experience! Imagine what would have happened in the stands...
- Eteri Georgievna's ideas would be in ISU. Perhaps there are not enough sponsors for the sandboxes. Can you estimate what is the figure skater's budget per year? I remember Serafima Sakhanovich told me that about 1 million rubles were spent on her a year.
Stanislav: - Our budget fell to almost zero after Anya joined the Russian team. The federation, the Ministry of Sports and, of course, Sambo-70 took on the main costs.
Julia: - Classes at the sports school are free. Then it all depends on the excitement of the parents. Additional classes are held at commercial ice rinks. When I brought my daughters to figure skating, the skate cost 300 rubles, then 500. The madness began after the start of the Ice Age on television. Demand began to exceed supply and prices began to skyrocket.
Once, in the younger group, one of the mothers said that her husband calls us all a figure-skating sect. And indeed, I can say by myself that whether you like it or not, you gradually succumb to the general mood, the arms race. It is enough to show up to one crazy parent dragging their child for several skatings a day, and you seriously begin to doubt: “Are you doing the right thing? Is your child doing too little? In our time, two extra ice sessions and one choreography-stretch per week were considered normal.
It was not allowed to watch the training, we sometimes peeped from behind the door. But personally, at that time I absolutely did not understand even the basics of figure skating, so I could only notice falls. Natasha Tsurskaya taught me to distinguish one jump from another when Anya started doing triple jumps, that is, at the age of 10. But I still can confuse a flip with a sheepskin coat, and a salchow with a ritberger. (Laughs.)
- This year was also successful for Anya in terms of prize money. Have you already spent them on something?
Stanislav: - We set aside prize money for Anya for the future. We are trying not only to preserve them, but also to increase them. We collect a portfolio of a novice investor, everything is according to the rules - part for a deposit, part for currency, part for shares. By the way, it is especially interesting to invest in stocks now, because the vaccine will appear sooner or later, and there will be growth. In general, we improve financial literacy and look at how the money itself works, it's amusing. Moreover, Anya ultimately decides for herself where and how much she is ready to invest. She goes to the bank herself, understands deposits, signs contracts. He communicates with tellers, they are also curious: “Girl, where did you get this money from?” — "Earned." A couple of times they guessed with promotions, and it turned out that one percent is already enough to upgrade your phone to the latest model. It turns out, for free, simply because they did the necessary actions on time. What, I ask, are we updating, or are we still waiting? While waiting, this was the answer.
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I loved the build up of tension in this program, but she replaced it with a masterpiece for the ages
so I can't complain. Still, a very happy welcome return seeing it in shows now!Similar threads
