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I was surprised by how much rubbish aunt jouce was able to include in one single blog. Amazing
But if you enjoyed it allI can say is :
different strokes for different folks.
Any Sasha updates?
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I was surprised by how much rubbish aunt jouce was able to include in one single blog. Amazing
But if you enjoyed it allI can say is :
different strokes for different folks.
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Nope. I agree about not underestimating her competitors either. I would hate for Sasha to show up at nats injured, do 3 triples in the free, edge out someone like Rachael for an Olympic spot due to hugely inflated PCS, then bomb at the Olympics because she's hurt.
If anything I think Sasha's injury is a blessing in disguise, it almost seems like she's crashing the party and isn't welcome. I imagine the like of Mirai, Alissa, Rachael, Ashley, Caroline, etc would be crushed if Sasha unfairly stole an Olympic spot from them after just walzing in after 4 years of not competing
That's why I don't think USFS will grease the skids for Sasha and place her top two regardless of how she skates.
Last year, Miss Competition Nerves went to Worlds and finished 11th, limiting US ladies to two spots for Vancouver. The US doesn't need Not Ready to Compete Cohen filling one of those two spots. If Sasha had competed at TEB and/or SA and showed even a shadow of her former self, perhaps an improved (but not great) Nationals performance would have been sufficient reason to consider her for an Olympics slot. But Sasha hasn't competed at all for nearly four years and complains of an injury that prevents her from practicing long-unused jumps. The last thing USFS needs is a "headliner" who isn't in competitive shape and becomes a deadliner in Vancouver.
Besides, putting on the team a pretty skater rather than a competitive one, two years in a row, will further undermine the morale of the US ladies.
Last year, Miss Competition Nerves went to Worlds and finished 11th, limiting US ladies to two spots for Vancouver. The US doesn't need Not Ready to Compete Cohen filling one of those two spots. If Sasha had competed at TEB and/or SA and showed even a shadow of her former self, perhaps an improved (but not great) Nationals performance would have been sufficient reason to consider her for an Olympics slot. But Sasha hasn't competed at all for nearly four years and complains of an injury that prevents her from practicing long-unused jumps. The last thing USFS needs is a "headliner" who isn't in competitive shape and becomes a deadliner in Vancouver.
Besides, putting on the team a pretty skater rather than a competitive one, two years in a row, will further undermine the morale of the US ladies.
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Very lovely. :yes: But...if you want to see the difference between talent and mastery, click on to the very next performance in that competition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzcUIuD4xfo&feature=related
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Sasha easily has the better dress
And as for the programs I love them both. Michelle's I like better overall, but only because she skated it cleaner.
Sasha has her moments too. With a clean skate I think I would have preferred Sasha's LP in '04. But that could change with my mood.
On the whole I like Michelle's LP's better but some of Sasha's SP's are just so great.
But Michelle is done. She's retired. I supported her comeback in '06 and I support Sasha's attemp in 2010.
I like our young skaters but none have come even close to the memories Sasha has provided. I wish they would already but I wonder about them.......
It is not a good sign that I am watching Christina Gao.......what does that say about our current group of Ladies?
Yes, Michelle is done because she made an attempt at a comeback starting about a year and a half ago, and in time she realized that she could not be competitive in the current environment. And so she opted to continue her education instead of making another Olympic try.
Although Sasha didn't have the devastating injury Michelle had, and did not need surgery, she has not judiciously prepared for her comeback attempt. Delaying serious training until just 8 months before the Olympics was not a wise decision, and then committing to two GP events for which she couldn't possibly be ready further compromised her believability.
Although Sasha didn't have the devastating injury Michelle had, and did not need surgery, she has not judiciously prepared for her comeback attempt. Delaying serious training until just 8 months before the Olympics was not a wise decision, and then committing to two GP events for which she couldn't possibly be ready further compromised her believability.
Golly, two splendid skaters in the U.S. at the same time! We were lucky. Though Michelle will always be my top fave for many different reasons, Sasha comes close behind for me. Sasha did us proud in the Olympics when Michelle couldn't carry on. I love both these ladies' 2004 performances--vive la difference! For a "head case," Ms. Cohen racked up quite a record of medals, didn't she?
By the way, I think Sasha's SLC short program was one of her best performances ever--unusual music, interpreted with style and attack. This has probably been linked earlier on this thread, but just in case....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gJ5H3ubfA&feature=related
By the way, I think Sasha's SLC short program was one of her best performances ever--unusual music, interpreted with style and attack. This has probably been linked earlier on this thread, but just in case....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gJ5H3ubfA&feature=related
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Couldn't agree more, and if Rachael is silver medalist for a THIRD time behind someone who she clearly should have beat I think she'll be pissed.
The worst is that judges aren't even consistent about this whole pretty skater nonsense, I think Caroline is a very pretty skater but they don't seem to agree, and she even lands all her jumps most of the time. Plus, most figure skaters are pretty, it just seems like a pretty sport. They all appear fit and healthy and have nice skin and that translates into their skating.
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:agree: 
One thing is landing a jump, another thing is doing them correctly. How many times we need to talk about Caroline's poor technique? As time goes by, her thecnique is getting worse.The marks she got this year are abysmal. If she doesn't start working on her problems (which will take quite some time), she is toasted.
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Do you have any first hand knowledge about the "low morale" of US Ladies?
I would suspect if their morale is low it is from getting their butts kicked for the last couple of years.
BTW, that has absolutely nothing to do with Sasha and everything to do with their aparent lack of competitiveness against Intl Ladies.
I don't want any whining crybabies selected for the Natl team and the ones who can't take a little competition should try cheerleading or some other activity.
I think you're right, Chuckm. Alas, because I love Sasha's skating, I think her approach to training has not been all it could be. By contrast, no one has ever questioned Michelle's work ethic or dedication to the sheer grind of preparation. One of the things Peggy Fleming said on that tape of the "Tosca" long program in 2004 was that Michelle was one of the most reliable skaters in the world. How amazing, and laudable, that one of the most musical, artistic skaters ever is also famous for being reliable. Like Yamaguchi, Kwan was a workhorse for her entire career. She must have loved the spotlight to do so well in it, but she also had the self-discipline to leave it when she couldn't live up to its demands.
Yes, I still have hopes that Sasha can compete in this year's Nationals, but those hopes are becoming threadbare and forlorn.
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I am just wondering why Sasha has any desire to get creamed by Yuna, and probably Mao, Miki, Joannie, and half a dozen other ladies at the Olympics.
She already has a silver, and to get gold she needs to as an injured 25 year old who hasn't competed in almost 4 years and never had the best jumps beat QUEEN YU NA KIM, the girl who scored 210 points with 5 triples in her freeskate at the very beginning of the season. Silly Sasha...
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Hang in there Olympia, it's always darkest before the dawn. Even that aunt Joyce said as much
I think Natls will be more exciting.....make that twice as exciting if Sasha skates.
Anyway, if she wants to try and get to Vancouver she will have no choice but to give it her best shot at Natls.
I hope she skates - but we just will have to wait and see.
Supposing (well, not supposing, really, but necessary since it's not official yet) she skips the year due to her ill-preparedness. She claims to "miss competing", "love pushing myself". Does one think then, logically, she would try and return next season instead? (Ha!)
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I agree that Worlds 2006 was the worst performance she ever gave, only comparable to her short at junior worlds 2000. I think she just really did not want to be there, and Mr. Nicks probably told her to go and get the easy win. Of course we all know how that turned out and I feel that is reason behind the Sasha/Nicks spilt.
Worlds 2006 was the only time I was really mad at Sasha for skating poorly. she didn't care anymore and it showed.
who knows indeed. "a source?" What does that mean?
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True.
But even if Yuna COULD compete at US Nat, we'll be looking at only 2 spots b/c ... you know, she's going to be locked for Vancouver. So either way, we'll be having this discussion on whether or not Sasha can go the Vancouver and/or who's going to get the spots left.
(And of course figure skating would've been more popular in the States since Americans would have their own darling world medalist & record breaker.
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True.
But even if Yuna COULD compete at US Nat, we'll be looking at only 2 spots b/c ... you know, she's going to be locked for Vancouver. So either way, we'll be having this discussion on whether or not Sasha can go the Vancouver and/or who's going to get the spots left.
(And of course figure skating would've been more popular in the States since Americans would have their own darling world medalist & record breaker.
We have had seven Lady Olympic Champions already Nadia We have had about 10 more who were World Champions.
It wouldn't change much.
Remember Yuna is so big in Korea because they are starved for celebrities and they never had a great skater before. We have more celebrities than we need and like I said, the concept of an "Ice Queen" is only new too Asians. We have had them for close to a century
It is nothing new here and Yuna or Mao or whoever would be popular here - but never in a way they are at home. We just have too any other celebrities and iconic Ladies to celebrate a "skater" the way they do in Asia. Our culture is much more diversified and our tastes always evolving.
I think skating is in a downward cycle here and it may rebound in the future. Or maybe not. I don't think Americans will ever put much faith in a sport with anonymous judging and a system accountable only to someone like Speedy and other seedy ISU officials.
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I'm still waiting for the ever evolving U.S. taste to evolve even the tiniest bit towards Ice Dancing.
This could be the year :yes:
But it will take the first fairly judged Dance competition in Olympic history for it to happen
If we see the same old gifting and replays of overlooked mistakes then why would it become popular here? Our tastes have not evolved for a love and acceptance of cheating but maybe through Ice Dancing there is still a hope
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