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Are you joking? Inside analysis? Where would he have such analysis? It all comes only from his incomprehensible hatred.
Never joking.this is a very serious thread. Plushy is bringing a lot of new ways of competition and training. Very interesting for many coaches to look closer and learn. Edwin is as always very well informed
 
Never joking.this is a very serious thread. Plushy is bringing a lot of new ways of competition and training. Very interesting for many coaches to look closer and learn. Edwin is as always very well informed
Well informed? All of his news and opinions came from the sports.ru site and forum. Most of the time he brings the news and writes opinion and because his soul is full of hate, those are fake. For me that is sad you wellcomed his hatred. His hatred is disgust me not because I'm a fan of Plushenko but because no one deserves such hate. I'm saying again, no one in figure skating world!
 
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Lambiel is sure interesting.

Is it a finishing rink or a developing rink?

Where is the money coming from, what are the resources, who are working on technique and skills, etc.?
 
I like your anlaysis and inside information. Could you please give us more?

Competition is good and leads to better results according to Tuberize. Maybe this kind of plushy competition is even better for result. Kind of a next step level.
According to Tutberidze, the competition within her group is good and brings good results. However, if competition comes from outside, then it is bad and must be destroyed in any way. Otherwise, you will have to share fame, awards and rewards. In general, a obvious and quite conservative view of business.
 
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According to Tutberidze, the competition within her group is good and brings good results. However, if competition comes from outside, then it is bad and must be destroyed in any way. Otherwise, you will have to share fame, awards and rewards. In general, a obvious and quite conservative view of business.
Only time will tell if this next level form of competition within one coaching team willbe successful. So fa plushy and his skaters are very successful. Tuberizes domination is broken.
 
You can do that. You can be sarcastic but the fact remains fact.
Plushyfan, when I brought Lambiel and Orser as other examples of "getting readymade skaters" in the RLT, I was immediately shouted down by someone about how I shouldn't see teams because it's an individual sport - despite me saying there wasn't anything wrong with it.

People should enjoy the sport however they wish. But I think this "individual" vs "team" nonsense is making people miss the forest for the trees - just watch the godforsaken skating, it's not that cockamamie hard.
 
Only time will tell if this next level form of competition within one coaching team willbe successful. So fa plushy and his skaters are very successful. Tuberizes domination is broken.
If you look at Russian men, you will see that many coaches educate promising young men. This makes the competition interesting and promises good results in the near future. But there are fewer clubs and coaches who are trying to educate girls. Mishin has no advanced youth. Panova's group disappears from the radar. Davydov is trying to follow the path of Tutberidze with only one Samodelkina, relying on the same methods and the influence of CSKA, without offering anything new. So Plushenko (with Sasha and Alena and also with Zhilina and Titova at the younger ones) is in fact Eteri's only real competitor in Russia. Rusfed would be very foolish if it bury the nascent competition between clubs and coaches in women's skating in Russia.
 
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We are trying to move on......

Let's talk about Lambiel. He got the two Japanese champions (coronavirus was on his side) and Paganini. Deniss finally landed a quad.

Looks like his rink is becoming a powerhouse. I wonder if Kihira and Uno will keep the same technical level and if Kihira will successfully skate a layout with a quad.
This is great news about Deniss, he's such a great skater, Stephane has really done amazing work with him.

I'm interested in his school's set up too, I imagine he's not running the place by himself, who also works with him? Do they have a dedicated jumps specialist?
 
I'm interested in his school's set up too, I imagine he's not running the place by himself, who also works with him? Do they have a dedicated jumps specialist?
Lambiel is sure interesting.

Is it a finishing rink or a developing rink?

Where is the money coming from, what are the resources, who are working on technique and skills, etc.?
Look at the webpage of the Palladium the Champery. It's not only an ice rink, it's a sport centre with a curling tracks where last Youth Olympic Games took place so I suppose they have money also thanks to the events organized there (along with summer camps provided by Skating School of Switzerland, where Stephane, his coach Peter Grutter and his choreographer Salome Brunner are the main coaches). Till June this year Robert Dierking and Anna Bernauer were also the coaches, but they left to Berlin and Angelo Dolfini and a coach whose name I don't remember joined the team. Also Ghislain Briand from TCC was coaching here in summer (as a jump specialist obviously).
Champery is a village of some 1250 inhabitants so surely it's not a typical place for local kids to start their skating journey. There are many groups of kids though, coming from the area (Lausanne is the nearest big city, in a distance of some 50 minutes by car). Swiss national team has been training here as Stephane is a national team coach. Many international skaters (both juniors and seniors) come here in summer for camps (and for choreo from Stephane), individually or in groups (like team Hamada, team Young Goose Academy etc.).
 
Interesting..;)Trankov liked Plushenko's post about Liza's score, and agree with him Bestemianova, Urmanov, Sinitsina, Leonova, Tarasova. Trankov supported Plushenko's opinion in Kamila's case.
Trankov continues to annoy me He said recently he doesn't watch the lady skaters he only sees the results. If that is accurate then that would annoy me that he would think KV scored too high if he's not even watching her. Again I don't care if some of the Russian girls score too high all the great ones the last 10 years going back to Yulia and Adelina and all the girls after that mostly TT girls have scored too high at one point or another. Not a big deal. I'm pretty sure Tara and Michelle scores were too high from time to time. And Plushennko and Yagudins scores back in the day we're probably too high from time to time. It is what it is.

As for the separate teams at PA if that's the case I don't like it. that's not good for camaraderie and one thing TT had last year and in previous years camaraderie. The girls pushed each other to be better.
 
As for the separate teams at PA if that's the case I don't like it.
I can't agree with that. If Sasha and Aliona want separate coaching groups with the attention that brings I think it should be up to them.

You're probably right to say that training all in one group pushes each girl, but at the same time I feel that could get exhausting after so many years. At some point constantly looking over your shoulder would be wear you down, especially if the other girl had skills you can't obtain no matter how hard you work (Aliona with Sasha's quads, Sasha with Aliona's skating skills). It's not like the either of them won't know what the other is achieving.
 
Ah yes, I remember that. As a lover of tangoes I actually didn't mind, but the original music did go better, obviously and it was good they changed it back.

I wonder if Mishin got an annoyed phone call from Shae-Lynn over that, I remember reading a comment from her about not appreciating the music change at all!
Mishin used to change not only the music, but the choreography or simply throw the whole program. This happened with Plush's R&J or Hava nagila programs. I will show you these in Plushy's thread.
 

“ You need to open up more, open all the chakras. (You're a) little tight still "

Chakra: in ancient Indian philosophy and medicine: the energy centers of the human body, where the psychic, vital force is concentrated.

Are the message and tone and conduct in concord in this PR clip?

Which perhaps is true, Valeriya Shulskaya does seem to a quite closed person, restraining herself emotionally, which might mean she is better served elsewhere if her character is forced to open up against her subconscious self and will? A brute approach to achieve quick results will not work in what I think is a highly intelligent and sensitive girl like Valeriya.
 
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This is also an IMO interesting analysis on strategy and maxing out the chances of your athletes.

The second option of having Kostornaya only compete in the final stage (without Trusova) and with Plyushchenko applying to FFKKR using both his and her status to give Kostornaya a start in the Nationals. Wonder how the media will pick this up ....

And the dilemma Plyushchenko has to solve: the Destroyer by Quads or the Darling Angel, when he wants to keep both of them in his collection after New Year.
 

“ You need to open up more, open all the chakras. (You're a) little tight still "

Chakra: in ancient Indian philosophy and medicine: the energy centers of the human body, where the psychic, vital force is concentrated.

Are the message and tone and conduct in concord in this PR clip?

Which perhaps is true, Valeriya Shulskaya does seem to a quite closed person, restraining herself emotionally, which might mean she is better served elsewhere if her character is forced to open up against her subconscious self and will? A brute approach to achieve quick results will not work in what I think is a highly intelligent and sensitive girl like Valeriya.
C'mon, how do you know about that? You know her subconscious self and wishes based on this minute-long clip? Really? And you volunteer to comment on that just to get at Plushenko? Really? Honestly, it just seems you are willing to use and twist anything just to have a go at him. As they say here, he seems to live in your mind free of rent :biggrin:
For all I see, there is no brutality in this clip, no brutal approach or anything. He is smiling, they are laughing.
 
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