Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
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soooooooooo I saw Liza & she's exactly like that onlooker described in that article.
But I wont just highlight her power power power. Actually its the balance, harmony. The word is - its all effortless. I didnt have such good seats (opposite of the judges) but anyway the fact that even with our small crowd we started clapping throughout because how could you not?! its total harmony between music fitting the skater, being catchy & the skater being as charismatic as Liza.
& I saw a person (in 4CC ladies thread probably?...) who said that Liza lands with a 'thud' or something. It really didnt seem like that from where I have been watching. On the contrary. The landings as everything else are effortless too. In some comps I saw on TV the thuds are indeed heard but its because the camera & mic is placed very closely & its not only during Liza's programms. Idk, maybe if we compare to Miyahara or some other skater the landing thud (or 'plomp' or some other word that person used) is indeed noticable but from the look of things I really couldnt hold it against her (lol i tried to see flaws I really did)
There were lots of wee girls who surronded Liza & took pics at K&C & it was adorbs. She was signing autographs on their skates btw) Hopefully it will bring them good luck in their future careers
With all the comments that she's tiny I didnt feel like she was (I'm 170cm btw)
I didnt want to bother her (& being an oldschool non gadget person I couldnt get a selfie anyway)
After her perf she quickly was gone (after giving autogr for the lil girls) but somehow I found the courage to call her name just when she was about to leave the building with her bf (Is Lazukin her bf btw??? I wasnt following her private life)))), congratulated her with the women's day & gave her my flowers. It was really brief but her smile is as shiny & charming as its on tv definitely:
Fun trivia: before the the victory ceremony in the evening Peter Gumennik was doing 'jumpathon' (lmao he's such a little star!) & Liza (who was chilling with her bf (or not bf) on the K&C sofa started clapping & encouraging him
It was super cute. I hope he'll grow up & be the KING!
all in all it was worth skipping work & having to working today instead (too bad K/S were absent but I'll vent in their thread)
Hopefully one day i can go to some bigger comp & cheer for Liza. She was absolutely mesmerising as I imaiged & even better live.
Dont have anything to say on 3A. Imo it may be better to wait til next season but ofc Mishin & Liza know best.
Sugarpova, you are such a lovely Liza fan here! Thanks for your vivid report!
@Sugarpova
Thank you for sharing your impressions with us. And confirming what I always argued: Liza's jumps are not only big, but also effortless and controlled on the landings.
Really makes me want to see Liza myself. Maybe she'll come to one of the North American GPs (and they'll be somewhere near me :hopelessness
Thank you for sharing your impressions with us.
And confirming what I always argued: Liza's jumps are not only big, but also effortless and controlled on the landings.Really makes me want to see Liza myself. Maybe she'll come to one of the North American GPs (and they'll be somewhere near me :hopelessness
I'm not objecting to it. Just saying, if I were the one doing the "inflating," I'd give +3s to all her toe jumps and leave the spin GOE at +1/+2. But I don't know how the performance actually was. Maybe her jumps were just "okay" by her standards and she knocked it out the park with the spins.
Elizabeth Tuktamysheva, European champion in figure skating in 2015: "If our girls will ride as they are able, we will not be competitors. Because after all the American skaters there are some problems with U-R elements and lack of experience, I think the young skaters. Therefore, if everything will turn out, you can count on good results. "
http://topspb.tv/news/news67397/
http://topspb.tv/news/news67397/
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Thanks for the link to the article.
Wow, not only a quote taken somewhat out of context, but also horribly translated (through Google, I assume).
Liza's LP at the St. Petersburg competition: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iutyq_spbf-2015-elizaveta-tuktamysheva-fs_sport
Liza's LP at the St. Petersburg competition: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iutyq_spbf-2015-elizaveta-tuktamysheva-fs_sport
Like at Euros or even better (very relaxed)! 12th competition! Liza is the beast
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@Sugarpova- many thanks for your post, most interesting!
Quote Originally Posted by jkaruna View Post
Elizabeth Tuktamysheva, European champion in figure skating in 2015: "If our girls will ride as they are able, we will not be competitors. Because after all the American skaters there are some problems with U-R elements and lack of experience, I think the young skaters. Therefore, if everything will turn out, you can count on good results. "
http://topspb.tv/news/news67397/
My translation :
Lisa said: 'If our girls go on skating as they are capable of, we will have no competition. For example, American girls have some problems with underrotations and their younger skaters somewhat lack competitive experience. That is why if everything goes well, the very good results can be counted on.'
Up to the World Championship Elizaveta will continue training in St Petersburg. They are to leave for Shanghai on the 24th March. Ladies competition starts on Thursday, the 26th March''
Well, we know where Lisa is coming from but this statement is just a little too strong and hence maybe ill-advised?
Thanks for the link to the article.
Wow, not only a quote taken somewhat out of context, but also horribly translated (through Google, I assume).
Quote Originally Posted by jkaruna View Post
Elizabeth Tuktamysheva, European champion in figure skating in 2015: "If our girls will ride as they are able, we will not be competitors. Because after all the American skaters there are some problems with U-R elements and lack of experience, I think the young skaters. Therefore, if everything will turn out, you can count on good results. "
http://topspb.tv/news/news67397/
My translation :
Lisa said: 'If our girls go on skating as they are capable of, we will have no competition. For example, American girls have some problems with underrotations and their younger skaters somewhat lack competitive experience. That is why if everything goes well, the very good results can be counted on.'
Up to the World Championship Elizaveta will continue training in St Petersburg. They are to leave for Shanghai on the 24th March. Ladies competition starts on Thursday, the 26th March''
Well, we know where Lisa is coming from but this statement is just a little too strong and hence maybe ill-advised?
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Bit of a curious statement about how 'American girls lack competitive experience'. Wonder what was meant by that exactly. (Maybe the younger skaters lack the competitive fire necessary to beat the Russians?) This season, Liza has been at more competitive events than any other skater I can think of, so she definitely has that area on lock-down.
Assuming the 'experience' statement was meant more for Polina and Gracie I suppose -- do Pogo and Radionova have more competitive experience? I mean, Polina won 4CCs, and all 3 ladies of Team USA went to the Olympics last year and finished well within the top 10... just saying...
Assuming the 'experience' statement was meant more for Polina and Gracie I suppose -- do Pogo and Radionova have more competitive experience? I mean, Polina won 4CCs, and all 3 ladies of Team USA went to the Olympics last year and finished well within the top 10... just saying...
Polina didn't make GPF, Gracie couldn't go, and Ashley skipped 4CC. So as far as this season's concerned, the Russians are more experienced.Bit of a curious statement about how 'American girls lack competitive experience'. Wonder what was meant by that exactly. (Maybe the younger skaters lack the competitive fire necessary to beat the Russians?) This season, Liza has been at more competitive events than any other skater I can think of, so she definitely has that area on lock-down.
Assuming the 'experience' statement was meant more for Polina and Gracie I suppose -- do Pogo and Radionova have more competitive experience? I mean, Polina won 4CCs, and all 3 ladies of Team USA went to the Olympics last year and finished well within the top 10... just saying...
Liza has been in seniors since 2011. Maybe she herself has brought into the thinking that she's a "veteran" at 18. (People tend to forget she's actually younger than Gracie, since she's been around for so long. Pretty funny how when Gracie messes up, people say, "Well, she's still young; she's the future of US figure skating" and when Liza messes up, they go, "She's done/should just retire in favour of the 15-year-olds."
)Most likely, Liza's just countering Ashley's "sonograms" and Polina's "my edges/rotation are perfect!" We shouldn't think too hard about it.
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Most likely, Liza's just countering Ashley's "sonograms" and Polina's "my edges/rotation are perfect!" We shouldn't think too hard about it.
Perhaps. It would be nice to see a little two-way rivalry going on for a change.
Also, I am more inclined to read into anything that Liza says, as opposed to Polina/Ashley, where I typically just laugh and take at face-value.
She said: "if our girls skate as good as they can we will have no competitors...", and it is true, considering that Pogorilaya indeed had a third result of this season so far. She had 191.81 on BOTH Skate canada and Europeans, while Ashley's best this season was 189.50. Then she said: "... because, still, American ladies-skaters has somewhat problems with rotating the elements" - which addresses, of course, mostly to Ashley. "and, I think, the lack of the experience, in particular, within younger girls" - which is a true too esp. for Polina. "The lack of the experience" can also mean the lack of reputation, i.e. PCS. "Therefore, if everything goes well, we, maybe, can count on high results". She, indeed, said it very carefully as you can see; I am translating literally.
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Polina didn't make GPF, Gracie couldn't go, and Ashley skipped 4CC. So as far as this season's concerned, the Russians are more experienced.
Liza has been in seniors since 2011. Maybe she herself has brought into the thinking that she's a "veteran" at 18. (People tend to forget she's actually younger than Gracie, since she's been around for so long. Pretty funny how when Gracie messes up, people say, "Well, she's still young; she's the future of US figure skating" and when Liza messes up, they go, "She's done/should just retire in favour of the 15-year-olds."
Most likely, Liza's just countering Ashley's "sonograms" and Polina's "my edges/rotation are perfect!" We shouldn't think too hard about it.
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After winning the 4CC, Polina also said that she didn't think Russian skaters were stronger than Americans.
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Polina didn't make GPF, Gracie couldn't go, and Ashley skipped 4CC. So as far as this season's concerned, the Russians are more experienced.
Liza has been in seniors since 2011. Maybe she herself has brought into the thinking that she's a "veteran" at 18. (People tend to forget she's actually younger than Gracie, since she's been around for so long. Pretty funny how when Gracie messes up, people say, "Well, she's still young; she's the future of US figure skating" and when Liza messes up, they go, "She's done/should just retire in favour of the 15-year-olds."
Most likely, Liza's just countering Ashley's "sonograms" and Polina's "my edges/rotation are perfect!" We shouldn't think too hard about it.
We sure don't read too much into that but I still think that it is never a good idea to underestimate your competitors. Had she said it going into Euros i would have agreed wholeheartedly. But at Worlds Ashley, Gracie and even Polina could surprise us, besides I don't think judges will be that agreeable to a Russian sweep so anything possible
