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I liked Plushnko's 3a/.5/flip in SLC and it was pretty musical at that: https://youtu.be/MhIiisXRBys?t=1m12s
Euler aka half Loop jump
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Are you sure this is -3A at the end? Looked like a backwards entry, so like his good 'ol 3A-1l-3S. Which is one of the best examples of a good euler combo because he takes his time with the last jump so the euler doesn't look like a stepout.
I think skaters are getting the hang of it, although sone of the examples on the junior circuit were just tragic.
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I'm also not a fan. It always looks like they bobbled the landing. I am a fan of the three jump combo though but it is often hard for them to keep up the speed for the second and third jump. This seems to be less of an issue on the euler middle jump. The flow seems to be less of a problem
Does that make sense? I feel like I've given a very clumsy explanation of what I mean.
Does that make sense? I feel like I've given a very clumsy explanation of what I mean.
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That is a lovely jump. If they all looked like that then I'd be more of a fan. It seems like it's an actual planned element and less of a stumble. But then it is Hanyu and his beautiful triple axel so maybe I was just memorized
Usually skaters who land that combo have a 3-3 too or a 4-3 for men.
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I think a certain amount of awkwardness can't be helped. You are, after all, on the wrong foot, leaning the wrong way, etc. That is actually the whole point of the combo, to get yourself in a position to do an unnatural Salchow or flip as the second jump.
I agree that it is still a little on the herky-jerky side, even for skaters who can do it smoothly, like Hanyu. It took me quite a while to get used to it when they first allowed the move for points in the CoP.
The example of Midori Ito posted by Pohatta abive is the best example on this thread so far, IMHO.
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Oops it was a 3sal. Yes you're right.
I think the euler looks especially bad and jerky when the feet are too far apart. It looks like there is a huge puddle on the ice and they are making a heroic effort to "go wide" to avoid landing in it. Heroic maybe, but it sure isn't smooth or pretty.
I do like the examples people have given here, and you'll notice that the feet are relatively close together.
I do like the examples people have given here, and you'll notice that the feet are relatively close together.
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I have the impression euler jumps look ugly or even a mistake when skaters simply step onto it. It looks much better when it is actually jumped, as in up and down. Like this, in roller skating.
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I agree with this. The half-loop combo is not the prettiest element in a skater's repertoire, but it lets him do some extra cool stuff.
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Ashley's was always really nice-
https://youtu.be/uxHdsoCm02o?t=2m40s
The best ones are where the skater keeps the legs relatively close and the rhythm really smooth...no hesitation at any point in the half loop.
https://youtu.be/uxHdsoCm02o?t=2m40s
The best ones are where the skater keeps the legs relatively close and the rhythm really smooth...no hesitation at any point in the half loop.
I think that's why I liked Tara Lipinski's - it was pretty springy. Not the best example, but:
https://youtu.be/F_lGt6auYDo?t=4m13s
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Some good examples here of the combo done right. I'll also add that Shoma's 3A-Eu-3F is a good one. Lots of bounce and little hesitation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbc2VULwGJ8
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Not necessarily, and the 3-1-3 is quite a bit easier than a 3-3. You lose a fraction of a point with 0 3-3s in the FS due to this.
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I mean maybe in general, with easier combinations? But in the specific sense, I doubt a toe jumper would find a 3Lo+Eu+3S easier than a 3F+3T. And in the general sense, what about something like a +3T vs a +3F?
3+3Lo combinations are all probably more difficult.
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Well, Patrick could even make a fall look graceful.
This is a nice one!
I'm glad you mentioned Shoma. His euler covers great distance and as Interspectator has said, no hesitation into that jump so you can tell it's not a mistake/stepout. Here's a gif compilation of his euler combo https://twitter.com/cantileverlove/status/1034428022403883008?s=21
Jason Brown does a nice 3z-1l-3s at the end of his Piano program. https://youtu.be/LtbZP688V9w (4:16 mark)
I was hoping to see Kaetlyn Osmond's gorgeous 3F-1Eu-3S in competition this year:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXlyKPRhiqd/?hl=af
one of the few females with a 1Eu that doesn't look rushed. so amazing, powerful, great ice coverage and control. +5 GOE!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXlyKPRhiqd/?hl=af
one of the few females with a 1Eu that doesn't look rushed. so amazing, powerful, great ice coverage and control. +5 GOE!
