Europeans Dance CD

[kikakiks]

As expected, the judges game has already functioned for the dance Cd,

here are the results
1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 41.25 21.01 20.24 8.04 7.96 8.18 8.29 0.00 #18
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 40.25 20.19 20.06 8.00 7.89 8.14 8.14 0.00 #4
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 37.37 18.76 18.61 7.54 7.25 7.43 7.57 0.00 #9
4 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 36.87 18.55 18.32 7.32 7.21 7.43 7.39 0.00 #11
5 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 34.58 17.45 17.13 6.89 6.64 6.96 7.00 0.00 #7
6 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 33.55 17.01 16.54 6.61 6.50 6.68 6.71 0.00 #25
7 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 33.12 17.17 15.95 6.43 6.14 6.54 6.50 0.00 #6
8 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 33.02 16.72 16.30 6.57 6.36 6.61 6.57 0.00 #8
9 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR 31.28 16.28 15.00 6.00 5.86 6.07 6.11 0.00 #22
10 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 30.97 15.84 15.13 6.00 5.96 6.18 6.14 0.00 #26
11 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 30.15 15.94 14.21 5.71 5.54 5.68 5.86 0.00 #19
12 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 29.18 15.08 14.10 5.64 5.46 5.68 5.86 0.00 #10
13 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 28.90 15.07 13.83 5.61 5.36 5.61 5.57 0.00 #15
14 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 28.81 15.28 13.53 5.43 5.25 5.54 5.50 0.00 #5
15 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT 26.44 14.67 11.77 4.64 4.57 4.82 4.89 0.00 #24
16 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER 25.97 14.20 11.77 4.96 4.39 4.79 4.71 0.00 #3
17 Anastasia GREBENKINA / Vazgen AZROJAN ARM 25.41 13.81 12.60 5.00 5.07 4.96 5.14 1.00 #16
18 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE 24.88 13.60 11.28 4.57 4.29 4.64 4.61 0.00 #1
19 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR 24.27 13.39 10.88 4.36 4.29 4.32 4.46 0.00 #20
20 Joanna BUDNER / Jan MOSCICKI POL 22.47 12.69 9.78 4.04 3.64 4.00 4.04 0.00 #13
21 Leonie KRAIL / Oscar PETER SUI 21.50 12.44 9.06 3.61 3.43 3.75 3.79 0.00 #2
22 Krisztina BARTA / Adam TOTH HUN 21.17 12.15 9.02 3.68 3.29 3.71 3.86 0.00 #21
23 Ksenia SHMIRINA / Egor MAISTROV BLR 20.25 11.83 8.42 3.43 3.14 3.43 3.54 0.00 #23
24 Ina DEMIREVA / Juri KURAKIN BUL 17.31 9.96 7.35 2.89 2.82 3.04 3.07 0.00 #12
25 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 15.26 8.98 7.28 2.89 2.79 2.96 3.07 1.00 #17
26 Nadine AHMED / Bruce PORTER AZE 15.15 8.64 6.51 2.64 2.50 2.61 2.68 0.00 #14

Since I watched live, I still don't understand how 3 soviet (or ex soviet) teams go ahead of cappellini lanotte: just scandalous! Since when the zaretski's have become so strong? (i have the answer: just put under your coach's name Morozov)
and the Ukrainians and Lithuanians?
My explanation is that the judges got mad because The French went ahead of Dom Shabs....and decided to kill the western competition left for lower standards teams...Since when are those Italians inferior? especially after skating really clean...well, well, well

 

[MissIzzy]

Europeans Compulsory Results

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 41.25 21.01 20.24 8.04 7.96 8.18 8.29 0.00 #18
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 40.25 20.19 20.06 8.00 7.89 8.14 8.14 0.00 #4
3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 37.37 18.76 18.61 7.54 7.25 7.43 7.57 0.00 #9
4 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 36.87 18.55 18.32 7.32 7.21 7.43 7.39 0.00 #11
5 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 34.58 17.45 17.13 6.89 6.64 6.96 7.00 0.00 #7
6 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 33.55 17.01 16.54 6.61 6.50 6.68 6.71 0.00 #25
7 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 33.12 17.17 15.95 6.43 6.14 6.54 6.50 0.00 #6
8 Kristin FRASER / Igor LUKANIN AZE 33.02 16.72 16.30 6.57 6.36 6.61 6.57 0.00 #8
9 Anna ZADOROZHNIUK / Sergei VERBILLO UKR 31.28 16.28 15.00 6.00 5.86 6.07 6.11 0.00 #22
10 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 30.97 15.84 15.13 6.00 5.96 6.18 6.14 0.00 #26
11 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 30.15 15.94 14.21 5.71 5.54 5.68 5.86 0.00 #19
12 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 29.18 15.08 14.10 5.64 5.46 5.68 5.86 0.00 #10
13 Alla BEKNAZAROVA / Vladimir ZUEV UKR 28.90 15.07 13.83 5.61 5.36 5.61 5.57 0.00 #15
14 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 28.81 15.28 13.53 5.43 5.25 5.54 5.50 0.00 #5
15 Barbora SILNA / Dmitri MATSJUK AUT 26.44 14.67 11.77 4.64 4.57 4.82 4.89 0.00 #24
16 Christina BEIER / William BEIER GER 25.97 14.20 11.77 4.96 4.39 4.79 4.71 0.00 #3
17 Anastasia GREBENKINA / Vazgen AZROJAN ARM 25.41 13.81 12.60 5.00 5.07 4.96 5.14 1.00 #16
18 Kamila HAJKOVA / David VINCOUR CZE 24.88 13.60 11.28 4.57 4.29 4.64 4.61 0.00 #1
19 Phillipa TOWLER-GREEN / Phillip POOLE GBR 24.27 13.39 10.88 4.36 4.29 4.32 4.46 0.00 #20
20 Joanna BUDNER / Jan MOSCICKI POL 22.47 12.69 9.78 4.04 3.64 4.00 4.04 0.00 #13
21 Leonie KRAIL / Oscar PETER SUI 21.50 12.44 9.06 3.61 3.43 3.75 3.79 0.00 #2
22 Krisztina BARTA / Adam TOTH HUN 21.17 12.15 9.02 3.68 3.29 3.71 3.86 0.00 #21
23 Ksenia SHMIRINA / Egor MAISTROV BLR 20.25 11.83 8.42 3.43 3.14 3.43 3.54 0.00 #23
24 Ina DEMIREVA / Juri KURAKIN BUL 17.31 9.96 7.35 2.89 2.82 3.04 3.07 0.00 #12
25 Kristina KIUDMAA / Aleksei TROHLEV EST 15.26 8.98 7.28 2.89 2.79 2.96 3.07 1.00 #17
26 Nadine AHMED / Bruce PORTER AZE 15.15 8.64 6.51 2.64 2.50 2.61 2.68 0.00 #14

Most of the skaters made new season's bests, and many made new personal bests; I think the judges were in a generous mood. Though the real noteworthy incident of the evening came from Grebekina and Azrojan. Halfway through their polka she slipped and fell hard on her back. She didn't get up at first, and then limped off hunched over, clutching at the small of her back, but apparently there turned out to be more pain than actual damage, because then she came back on and they were able to resume and finish. I'm not sure if it only took two minutes(it felt like longer!) or if the referee didn't start the clock.

 

[SailorGalaxia518]

Well, I am shocked to see Delobel and Schoenfelder in the lead over Domnina and Shabalin

 

[poppy]

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 41.25 21.01 20.24 8.04 7.96 8.18 8.29 0.00 #18
2 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS 40.25 20.19 20.06 8.00 7.89 8.14 8.14 0.00 #4

I can't be happier. I watched the competition and I think that Isabelle/Oliver's marks are totally deserved! It was s great performance - superb technique and superb interpretation!!!

 

[dancemaster]

I can't be happier. I watched the competition and I think that Isabelle/Oliver's marks are totally deserved! It was s great performance - superb technique and superb interpretation!!!

Well i don't agree i think if Domnina and Shabalin score 40.25 then Isabelle/Oliver should have had a score 0f 44 +
on the night the French where on a different league and i am not sure i would have place Domnina / Shabalin second based on todays skate

 

[chuckm]

Some folks watching the CDs felt DomShabs skated slower than usual (but of course, they got a higher score at Euros for the same dance that they did at CoR---40.25 vs. 40.04).

They said during DelShoes' CD, RTR Sport commentator Elena Buriak was complaining that DelShoes should get a costume deduction (Olivier was wearing a Western outfit complete with chaps over his pants, and Isabel was dressed as a saloon gal). I guess she must have recognized that they were outskating DomShabs!

 

[poppy]

Well i don't agree i think if Domnina and Shabalin score 40.25 then Isabelle/Oliver should have had a score 0f 44 +
on the night the French where on a different league and i am not sure i would have place Domnina / Shabalin second based on todays skate

Well I never said the marks Dom/Shab were deserved (and it won't be the first time that they are overscored). I would go even further - I think that most of the time Del/Shoe are class above the russians, but a score 44+??? - I haven't saw Isabelle and Oliver flaying above the ice...

 

[Ptichka]

Since I watched live, I still don't understand how 3 soviet (or ex soviet) teams go ahead of cappellini lanotte: just scandalous! Since when the zaretski's have become so strong? (i have the answer: just put under your coach's name Morozov)
and the Ukrainians and Lithuanians?
My explanation is that the judges got mad because The French went ahead of Dom Shabs....and decided to kill the western competition left for lower standards teams...Since when are those Italians inferior? especially after skating really clean...well, well, well

1. Zaretski's have been steadily improving with each season. Besides, I think training with Linichuk they learned to do very nice compulsories. Let's see how OD and FD goes.
2. Since when are Lithuanian skaters judges' darlings? If memory serves, when Drobiazko and Vanagas were eligible, boards were always full of conspiracy stories of why they always got marks far lower than they deserved (many of those conspiracy theories actually made sense).

 

[sillylionlove]

I always felt that Drobiazko and Vanagas were undermarked when they skated.

I saw the Zaretski's live at Skate America and I have to say I was pretty impressed by them.

 

[eleonora.d]

may be true that lithuanian are not judges darling. but Cappellini/la Notte performance was clean , fast, good edges..I can't explain that score. I hope their OD (which is one of the most excting program in the season for me) will be good executed and better judged.

 

[1795]

job well done to isa and oli....
oh and dom/sha...too

 

[1795]

hmmmm the russians.....
gretel meets bond?....oh i guess that multi colored bandana/scarf on maxim brings the theme up...

 

[1795]

Some folks watching the CDs felt DomShabs skated slower than usual (but of course, they got a higher score at Euros for the same dance that they did at CoR---40.25 vs. 40.04).

They said during DelShoes' CD, RTR Sport commentator Elena Buriak was complaining that DelShoes should get a costume deduction (Olivier was wearing a Western outfit complete with chaps over his pants, and Isabel was dressed as a saloon gal). I guess she must have recognized that they were outskating DomShabs!

i completely agree...:agree:

 

[nuge]

I thought Delobel/Shoenfelder were in a class of their own.They looked and skated like champions.I'd have had K/N in second place .Domnina/Shabalin looked slow and a bit laboured in parts.:yes:

 

[dorispulaski]

Certainly the British Eurosport commentators thought DomShabs looked labored and credited it to the problems of being as tall as DomShabs are--however, when they skated the Yankee polka at COR, they weren't any shorter than they are now

I was somewhat amused that DelSchoes and the Kerrs decided "Yankee" = "Wild West". I suspect if US skaters did that, people would be saying how classless and hokey that was. However, I loved both programs and think the Delschoes more than deserved their scores

 

[lmarie086]

I'll be honest; I haven't liked Dom/Shab since the Olympics. I had been impressed with them that season and thought once again, the Russians have a team for the future podiums. Yet last season and this season as well I haven't seen the same elegance-it's all flailing arms and knees.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I didn't think they deserved 2nd place in the CD. Khoklova and Novitski should have been 2nd instead, they're much more graceful on the ice.
I was also surprised that Cappellini/Lanotte were in 10th! I thought they deserved higher marks, as did the Kerrs.