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oh it wouldn't be shade, in a normal situation and normal training environment... but none of ETERI's students have ever had any longevity.
Which Russian skaters(ladies) have?

How far back do you need to go?

^Slutskaya? Plushy? What's her name who I can't remember...
This is my point with "How far back do you need to go?". The landscape is different.

Does Leonova have longevity? Well... I guess she gets invited to GPs... not what I had in mind, though.
 
Like Orser has said, we won't be seeing instant result. But I believe Zhenya will grow under Orser's mentorship.

It's a bit sad knowing she deleted all photos with Yuzu, because they're friends, they should be able to have fun like normal friends do without hardcore fans throwing shade at her (or shippers making inappropriate comments)...

While shocking, I think it's not really odd that Zhenya changed coach at 18 too. Didn't Yuzu change coach at 17?
 
I mean, if she's going, it means she can pay for it. She's not moving to Canada without a plan on how to support herself. If the fed doesn't give her money, she's made more than enough. Again, if Lil Bet can afford it, so can Zhenya.

why do you say such a thing? Lil Bet, could have endless personal money? Her fed could also invest massively in her ... they don't have many athletes in the elite (top 10)... it's really none of our business who has money or not and how things get paid.
 
What I want to know is how in the world Med managed to convince the Russian Federation to take the unprecedented move that many thought was impossible up till now, of allowing their top skater to switch coaches and train abroad.

Remember when Lipniskaia was trying to change coaches? That dragged out for months and she wasn't even trying to move abroad!

She is covering all the expenses by her own means. Also- she won everything she could for them, top medals. They've got a replacement- Alina. What else they could want from her? She paid her debts of all they could imagine. She's free to go. As long as she can afford it.
 
Like Orser has said, we won't be seeing instant result. But I believe Zhenya will grow under Orser's mentorship.

It's a bit sad knowing she deleted all photos with Yuzu, because they're friends, they should be able to have fun like normal friends do without hardcore fans throwing shade at her (or shippers making inappropriate comments)...

While shocking, I think it's not really odd that Zhenya changed coach at 18 too. Didn't Yuzu change coach at 17?

I think is normal for skaters to change coaches, what is unusual is to keep a coach for a longer period as a senior skater. Yuzuru has been with Borser 6 years, Javier 7 years; but let´s not forget that before that Adam R. and Yuna left Borser.
 
Like Orser has said, we won't be seeing instant result. But I believe Zhenya will grow under Orser's mentorship.

It's a bit sad knowing she deleted all photos with Yuzu, because they're friends, they should be able to have fun like normal friends do without hardcore fans throwing shade at her (or shippers making inappropriate comments)...

While shocking, I think it's not really odd that Zhenya changed coach at 18 too. Didn't Yuzu change coach at 17?

Why did she delete photos with Yuzu?

Sometimes it is just about having the right environment to grow as a person, gain independance, confidence, life experience, making new friends and learn from your peers, from the team ... more than what you can learn from a single coach. I have a feeling we may be entering interesting phase in her career, artistic development for the better. For one thing, she should hopefully eat sleep and rest healthily, which can all improve one's well being.


Some people are off their meds if they think Med doesn't have money to train in CAN.

She is a star, I can't imagine it is that hard to get sponsors.
 
why do you say such a thing? Lil Bet, could have endless personal money? Her fed could also invest massively in her ... they don't have many athletes in the elite (top 10)... it's really none of our business who has money or not and how things get paid.

Im not saying this against Lil Bet, who I love. I was just pointing out that Zhenya has had a more successful career so far so she can definitely afford Orser. Not that’s any of our business how any of them afford their coaches :)
 
:rolleye:

If Evgenia does start losing next year, it's because of her injury + jump technique that is barely hanging on, not because she moved to BOrser.

I do expect her to have more of a fighting chance with BOrser than she would with Eteri; he has more experience working with skaters well into their adulthood, and Eteri does not. Long-term, I anticipate seeing improvement in her jump technique and skating skills.

She's fighting for her skating. If she stayed the current path with Eteri, she would stagnate, and that would definitely look more like retirement. Too many skaters stay with their coaches past the point that they should, but Evgenia is making the change before her skating and her results suffer - and that's the smart thing to do.

i agree with this... maybe she will not win everything anymore.. maybe she will end up 4th or 5th in the world... who knows? but if she stays with Eteri, she probably would retire after the first big failure... and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened at Russian Nationals. Medvedeva is not dumb. She knows she is not flawless and is looking to improve some of her weaknesses by going where they teach a different style... Kudos to her and her "management team/Parents??? "
 
It's a bit sad knowing she deleted all photos with Yuzu, because they're friends, they should be able to have fun like normal friends do without hardcore fans throwing shade at her (or shippers making inappropriate comments)...
Why do all believe that Yuzu and Zhenya are friends, real deal friends and are just not nice to each other as grown people with proper education? What is this myth all the shippers and non-shippers are trying to create in their heads? They are not friends, they will not go out for lunch in Toronto, Yuzu never did that with Javi and they were closer to each other as Zhenya never will be.
So what if they had fun at some Gala rehearsals and such? It is not what friendship is all about.
 
Why did she delete photos with Yuzu?
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Now that we now she’s going to TCC, I think it’s to avoid the usual “shippers” commenting on it. She wants to keep everything super professional!
 
Since rumour started there is no announcement for Wakaba. So i don't expect her to go now. Sad, i think she is the one who need Orser the most. But well, it's not the end of the world.

why? I don't think Wakaba needs Orser. She already has strong skating skills and pretty solid technique.
 
Maybe they will not even train in the same rink since TCC has many rinks.
 
Why did she delete photos with Yuzu?
Probably to calm and cut the shippers/ haters. As it is there is "crazy" people that think she only moving because "she is so in love" with him :sarcasm:... without giving her any credit as a sport woman deciding to move to advance her career
 
why? I don't think Wakaba needs Orser. She already has strong skating skills and pretty solid technique.

Oh it's not for SS that she needs him......she needs him to be taken more seriously and stop being given low scores while others get far more even doing less.
 
Some people are off their meds if they think Med doesn't have money to train in CAN.
Because it's hard to believe that of all great champions she is the only Russian athlete to have enough brain to gather all the money she could and make a great investment in her own future- that is why. Many still believe she's just a young girl and now she makes this huge bold financial move. That is appalling, how can she?:devil: (Show me the money!:laugh2:)
 
People are also forgetting that if Med is going to rework her technique with Orser, she's going to be inconsistent/will lose next season anyway. And yet they seem determined to draw conclusions from next season.

People are also also forgetting that Med wasn't going to stagnate, she already had. Look at her jump layout these three seasons, if nothing else.
 
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