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Evgenia Medvedeva to train under Brian Orser

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Midnightcass said:
No you're a hater because you continuously bash this skater and refuse to listen or reply to counter arguments. You rightly call her out on her flaws but state that you see no hope in her skating with such passive aggressiveness. Even non-fans of Medvedeva respect and support her decision. As this is a thread to discuss the potential of Evgenia and Borser caching relationship, let's keep things positive and leave the hate to nationalistic Russian fans.
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Huh? Are you sure this is me? Maybe you are talking about someone else. I don't remember making that kind of comments, saying that i see no hope in her skating. But well, if you think so....
I've even wished her good luck with Orser and that this move can make her improve. But if you read what you want to read....you are free
 
Corwin said:
"Surprising" move was from Evgenia's side, "Whine" after games, and ask..."why you didn't keep Alina in juniors for one more year" Mb it was emotions...or smth. And i really understand Eteri, why she revealed everything...So, time will show who was right and will put everything in its place
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You find it understandable for a coach to go to the media and trash every single skater that has left her while never, ever owning up to mistakes that she might have made along the way? Yulia, Adian, Sergei, Ilia Skirda, Polina S. (who knows what's coming about Polina T., or maybe Eteri forgot about her entirely), now Evgenia. Basically anything they might have said or done in the heat of the moment, while under incredible stress, becomes ammo for her to use against them later. There is no respect for anyone who leaves her...yet her students all manage to hold their tongues and not engage in the same kind of petty behavior.
 
silverfoxes said:
You find it understandable for a coach to go to the media and trash every single skater that has left her while never, ever owning up to mistakes that she might have made along the way? Yulia, Adian, Sergei, Ilia Skirda, Polina S. (who knows what's coming about Polina T., or maybe Eteri forgot about her entirely), now Evgenia. Basically anything they might have said or done in the heat of the moment, while under incredible stress, becomes ammo for her to use against them later. There is no respect for anyone who leaves her...yet her students all manage to hold their tongues and not engage in the same kind of petty behavior.
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It would be interesting if they join hand on a book about the coaching condition they went through.
 
andromache said:
If RusFed is smart (and they aren't always - see: Konstantinova), they will politick equally for Evgenia and Alina at least for the duration of next season, until Eteri's best juniors move up.

Evgenia is the one who stood up for Russia during the doping scandal and was the public face of clean sport in Russia. Alina won OGM, but Alina bombed Worlds. She's not 100% reliable, and no matter how much Eteri pushes Alina, RusFed can't dump Evgenia next season. They need more than one girl who can win. No matter how sure of a "sure thing" someone is to win an event, they could mess up, and then you end up with a Kaetlyn Osmond world champion, which is RusFed's worst nightmare.

(And this is NOT a knock against Kaetlyn! Only that, well, I'm sure RusFed HATES that she won instead of a Russian lady.)

Even if Russia did try to dump Evgenia, international judges have opinions, too, and Orser has a lot of friends in a lot of federations. There's a benefit to having a coach who coaches students from all over the world.
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I'm pretty sure that the RusFed is not dumping Evgenia anytime soon, she couldn't have made the switch so smoothly with Eteri raging if not for the fed. Also they need her to keep 3 spots for the ladies lol, she's the most consistent skater they've had after all.​
 
silverfoxes said:
You find it understandable for a coach to go to the media and trash every single skater that has left her while never, ever owning up to mistakes that she might have made along the way? Yulia, Adian, Sergei, Ilia Skirda, Polina S. (who knows what's coming about Polina T., or maybe Eteri forgot about her entirely), now Evgenia. Basically anything they might have said or done in the heat of the moment, while under incredible stress, becomes ammo for her to use against them later. There is no respect for anyone who leaves her...yet her students all manage to hold their tongues and not engage in the same kind of petty behavior.
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Polina snuck out while Eteri was raging about Evgenia :laugh:

(But seriously I hope we see Polina go to CSKA and get some love there. It seems like her only shot at staying relevant.)
 
VerityXxX said:
Wait what’s he saying about the situation.
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Briefly, he puts Evgenias move in perspective of revolutionary changes that happening with ISU, reducing the base value of the jumps, introducing +5 GOE. It will not matter if you do the jump, but how clean and how good it is executed. ...
 
Ok, so Mishin gave a really good interview about this, basically saying this can benefit everyone and people should chill and the press is just overdramatic as ever.

Compares it to his situation with Plush and Yagudin and says how in the end, everyone won: Yagudin got his Olympic gold, TAT got her most favourite pupil of all times, Plush got enough motivation to continue his career and earned Mishin and himself 3 Olympic medals.

Says he hopes in this case, everyone can win as well. Praises Med as a "great figure skater and a very rational and mature person". Declines to comment on how Orser can help her exactly, says it's his business. Also declines to speculate about her falling out with Eteri, says it's their business.

Comments on Eteri's outburst and Med ignoring text messages as a "an intersection between a personal and professional relationship" and compares it to a divorce. Says what's important is what comes next.

Finally, points out how the new rules can change everything for Med and Zagi and that this is also something to consider.

https://www.sovsport.ru/others/figu...-tut-net-aleksej-mishin-o-reshenii-medvedevoj
 
From IFS Magazine, comments and reactions from different coach and skaters.

Alexei Mishin:

“There is such an uncertain situation right now, there are divorces bringing happiness to both parting people, there are divorces that do not bring happiness to both, other divorces bring happiness to one person. I think that now the correct position is to take it calmly. We do not lose anyone, we have decent athletes. Brian Orser showed himself as a high-class specialist, so we need to take this calmly and to some extent sympathize with Evgenia, who is now in a very difficult situation.”
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The skaters that were questioned sound excited and supporting for the move.
 
Evgenia still represents Russia as a member of Sambo-70 Center for Sports and Education and she's coached by Brian Orser in Canada as a type of internship. Medvedeva wrote to Orser on April 2 and the coach met with the athlete and her mother in Seoul on April 22 to finalize the deal. Her English dramatically improved recently and I think she has been preparing for this transition for some time. Brian said that he will do everything in his power to fix her triple Lutz but it will not be easy to work with Medvedeva.
 
madison said:
I think it's a trend and a try to influence the public opinion and judges for skaters and coaches whose students cannot jump quads or 3Axel to say that's dangerous and to act as worrying.
Of course it's dangerous, but so it's jumping triples. Skaters can get injuries even from doing only steps...
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How do you know it's just an act? I'm willing to give everyone the benefit of doubt. As for the correlation between quads/3A and injuries - is it not true that the more difficult an element, the greater risk of injury?
 
"Orser said he had let Hanyu know that Medvedeva might be coming to Toronto. The coach thought it was possible Medvedeva asked Hanyu and Fernández about their experiences with him before making her decision. Hanyu has told Orser he intends to keep competing."


She discussed her decisions with yuzu and Javi as well I presume from this statement
 
Corwin said:
"Surprising" move was from Evgenia's side, "Whine" after games, and ask..."why you didn't keep Alina in juniors for one more year" Mb it was emotions...or smth. And i really understand Eteri, why she revealed everything...So, time will show who was right and will put everything in its place
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Nope. Sorry. Nothing to "understand" there.

We saw Evgenia carry herself with graciousness and humility throughout Europeans and Olympics,
Sharing press with Alina and everything, And that must've been hard and that's all you can ask of her,
Not all athletes do that nowadays.

Her private conversations with her friends or confidants are no one's business.

If i was close to Eteri i would worry about opening up to her in text after this
 
andromache said:
If RusFed is smart (and they aren't always - see: Konstantinova), they will politick equally for Evgenia and Alina at least for the duration of next season, until Eteri's best juniors move up.
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:thumbsup: Yes, that's what I would love to see. Agree with the rest of your post too.
 
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