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Orser: all coaches of the world would like to learn how Eteri Tutberidze continues to create athletes of Medvedeva level.
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063023347.html

Is he trolling her? Sounds like "all your bases will belong to us soon".

If I am Russia Fed, I'd send her for a few weeks KGB/GRU training to able to absorb all the secrets from the cricket club for the greater good of The Great Republic of Russia Federation. {What?!! Healthy eating, weight gaining, power/strength building, freedom, actually get to study and develop Art?!! Mind blown! }

If I am Canadian Fed, I'd bribe her to become a double agent for Canada, and steal all the best bits and inside info from Team Eteri and her magic closet.

If I am Evegenia, I'd take on all their offer, but give them nothing, and make them all work hard for her to reign for the next couple of years.

If I am Alina, I'd make Evegenia my best frienemy and let it motivate her. What ever she is doing, try to do it better and stay on top... only then can the sport move forward....

While some ISU judges are just going to continue clowning around with their latest toy GOEs super power, switch on and off according to their politics and self-interests as usual. Probably best to ignore the clowns and look out for the good ones and beg them to stay on to do the good fight. Only the good judges based on meritocracy and unbiased history deserve to get selected to judge at the biggest event like the WC and the Olympics, rather than up to the feds.

While the GOEs makes it easier for judges to annoint their pre-ranked winners, it can also expose their biases more clearly. I'd argue there should be statsticians out there that compile scoring trends not just according to the skaters but according to specific individual judges, and also based on Federation trends. Hence it can exposes the biases and the gaming of points when federation judges (Or Fed Events) try to push for momentum building and inflation scoring for their own skaters.
 
Plushenko and others belong to another time.

I'm sorry but I'm not uncovering anything about what is the change of mentality that is being promoted in Russia for about 3 or 4 years.

I doubt you're from Russia (unlike me), so what are your facts? It humours me when people outside of Russia say what the role model is, actually.
 
I'm still honestly confused by why people are offended by the idea of Medvedeva training outside of Russia. I mean,if she brings results, it's going to be for Russia anyways. She's a talented lady who decides to figure out what will work out for her, in course of representing Russian Figure Skating internationally. Is it really an issue that someone is no longer Russian, as soon as they set foot overseas?

Also, it's not a bad idea to learn a thing or two from foreign coaches and choreographers-sometimes it's an outside observer who has a fresh and clear perspective on what needs to be tweaked.
 
I wonder, what will happen if her new programs will be in completely Averbuch style :laugh:
 
Well, I think we have to take into account several things:

RusFed does not really exist: it is not an independent organization. In Russia, only certain people have power.

And those people in general do not like Zhenya's way of being, because she is neither the typical Russian girl nor the prototype they want to promote. She speaks foreign language, she likes foreign cultures, she shows tolerance whit....”non-traditional” ideas.

Until now they have endured it because ... she won championships.

But now she is not indisputably the number 1, so probably some of those people with power have started attacking her. Probably the mess about that it was going to change her citizenship have been malicious rumors scattered by those people with the only aim to damage her public image.

We should wait more performances in that sense, and of course in the sports field.

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OMG! I'm not Russian but you don't know what are you talking about... Do you believe in every stupid news on Russia???
 
Plushenko and others belong to another time.

I'm sorry but I'm not uncovering anything about what is the change of mentality that is being promoted in Russia for about 3 or 4 years.

Do you think the Russians were more liberal than now? Have you ever seen videos, or pics on the Russian show business? Or do you know in Moscow St. Petersburg there are gay clubs??
 
I'm still honestly confused by why people are offended by the idea of Medvedeva training outside of Russia. I mean,if she brings results, it's going to be for Russia anyways. She's a talented lady who decides to figure out what will work out for her, in course of representing Russian Figure Skating internationally. Is it really an issue that someone is no longer Russian, as soon as they set foot overseas?

I really think it's only a small minority of nutters who think that way. That and people just like to stir the pot for any old reason these days. Some of the posts in this thread are truly cringeworthy. Russians do not share a hivemind and Evgenia is not unique in having an interest in other cultures. She did Sailor Moon because she likes it, yes...and Anna P. had an ex to Rise Like A Phoenix. I don't know of any Russian skater that doesn't like to go abroad sometimes, doesn't listen to foreign music, etc. Rukavitsin's group spends time in the US every year, S/K and I/Z trained in the US, Morozov brought his group to NJ when he was still coaching Russians. By the way, how many American skaters train abroad and how would people react if one of them were to move to Russia?
 
It's about her secrets, not about her 20+ students
The thing is I actually credit Daniil more with the technical achievements. He’s the one you mostly see working with the jumps and talking about the training. Based on his interviews I know they use a harness on ice, limit jumping practice for quads (which will be interesting to see with the 10 run thrus), do off ice strength and plyometric training, and they use special padded pants when jumping to limit injuries.
 
The thing is I actually credit Daniil more with the technical achievements. He’s the one you mostly see working with the jumps and talking about the training. Based on his interviews I know they use a harness on ice, limit jumping practice for quads (which will be interesting to see with the 10 run thrus), do off ice strength and plyometric training, and they use special padded pants when jumping to limit injuries.

As far as I know, Dudakov is mainly working on jumps, Daniil is working on choreo.
 
I doubt you're from Russia (unlike me), so what are your facts? It humours me when people outside of Russia say what the role model is, actually.

Hello.

You are right.

I am not russian. I am from Spain. I once visited Saint Petersburg. The most beautiful city in the world.

If you don’t agree with me it is probably that you are right. Many times I am not right.
 
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