Evgenia Medvedeva

[50 Words for Snow]

I'm pretty sure that's a 3Lz - 3T. I like it how they're friendly with Yuzu at the end, I think he's showing her something about the jumps. I just hope this doesn't get viral and people start the shipping again.
On the jumps, I can't notice whether the lutz is correct edge or not, but I think both of them were with a tano. I'm glad she can enjoy this rink time and that so far we've seen her do 4 different jumps ^^

That's Misha who's helping her, not Yuzu.

 

[Vandevska]

That's Misha who's helping her, not Yuzu.

Okay, on my phone and with the video quality it looked like Yuzu.

 

[KiraraChin]

Exactly. Besides, let's be honest, Gabby isn't really a direct threat for Zhenya as Alina was last season. This might change during the season, but at the moment they're not really fighting the same battle (Zhenya and Alina are fighting for gold, the others for... bronze ), so there should be way less tensions than there were in Russia

Gabby is super sweet. The other thing of course is that Gabby and Zhenya will have different coaches. Gabby's primary coach is Lee Barkell, not Orser. In any case, I trust the TCC to manage things in a way that isn't stressful for the skaters. Like they did with Yuzu and Javi separating them in key points of their Olympics preparation so they could focus on themselves rather than each other.

 

[KiraraChin]

That's Misha who's helping her, not Yuzu.

Yep, it's Misha. Love their friendship!

 

[50 Words for Snow]

Gabby is super sweet. The other thing of course is that Gabby and Zhenya will have different coaches. Gabby's primary coach is Lee Barkell, not Orser. In any case, I trust the TCC to manage things in a way that isn't stressful for the skaters. Like they did with Yuzu and Javi separating them in key points of their Olympics preparation so they could focus on themselves rather than each other.

I'm pretty sure that he said he intends to keep them separated on the ice except when they are all stroking together, so I think you're right.

 

[yoloaxel]

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1003092633114181632

Is that her I spot doing a 3-3? Anyone know what 3-3 this is? Gosh With Yuzu and his 4T and Zhenya and her 3-3 at FAOI, Brian must be thinking "Kids - take it easy! I better fly to Japan right away!!!"

How exciting! She has her toe jumps back as well! I can’t tell if it’s 3F3T or 3Lz3T because of the angle and of being on my phone- regardless, I’m really happy!

https://twitter.com/evgeniaxmoon/status/1003033085544484864?s=21 super cute happy Zheny after the show!

 

[flanker]

You guys are awesome! Those are great videos; I'll study them! Thank you!

I find that animated video rather confusing (judging by the reactions in comment section I'm not at all alone), as there is not always clear which is the take-off leg. If I may recommend something, try to learn the system first rather than individual jumps. Thats how I have learned to recognize jumps (I admit that sometimes I make a mistake watching it still, but understand the logic). The system can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_skating_jumps#Common_jumps

But its not necessary to learn it all at once. First thing is to learn the entrance into jump: forward entrance, that's axel (the easiest to recognize), and backward is the rest.

Then aim at the rest: is the landing leg the same as taking-off leg or different. Same: loop (rittberger), and toe loop. Then you can recognize those two easily, first is not toe-assisted, second one is (it can help that for decesive majority of skaters it is right leg, which is taking-off and landing for those two jumps, fo toe loop it is left leg which serves as toe assisting).

So, now three jumps are remaining, all with backward entrance and different taking-off and landing leg (again, it can help that it is mostly from left to right leg, exception is e. g. Ashley Wagner). The best is to differ them now by the presence of toe-assistance. Salchow is not toe-assisted, the other two are. So salchow's specification is backward entrance, different taking-off and landing leg, not toe-assisted.

Now we have two jumps, flip and lutz. Both toe-assisted, backward entrance and different taking-off and landing leg. Here is the moment when it is really necessary for the spectator to focus at the inside/outside edge during taking-off. If the edge is outside (skater bends the leg to the opposite to the rotation) that it is lutz, if the edge if inside (more natural), it is flip.

So the things spectator needs to focus are: forward/backward entrance, same/different taking-off and landing leg and inside/outside edge.

I don't know if this helped, but thats how I was able to gain the understanding of the jumps.

 

[flanker]

How exciting! She has her toe jumps back as well! I can’t tell if it’s 3F3T or 3Lz3T because of the angle and of being on my phone- regardless, I’m really happy!

https://twitter.com/evgeniaxmoon/status/1003033085544484864?s=21 super cute happy Zheny after the show!

I bet the first was 3F, with the other leg high in the air. She jumps 3Lz differently, with the right leg on the ice at the beginning of the jump and crossing the other and then during the teking-off its like cutting with scissors.

 

[Vandevska]

I bet the first was 3F, with the other leg high in the air. She jumps 3Lz differently, with the right leg on the ice at the beginning of the jump and crossing the other and then during the teking-off its like cutting with scissors.

I think it was a lutz exactly because of the take off actually, to me it looks like a typical Evgenia lutz take off. Maybe someone experienced can tell us

 

[Vandevska]

Btw, this video helped me a lot:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBHa4KgJk3E

To me it was always clear which jump is Evgenia doing, but I had a lot of trouble with other skaters, especially distinguishing the loop and the salchow. But the main thing as this video says is to watch in slow motion, and watch as much as you can. I couldn't recognize how many turns the jumps were too haha.
I still have difficulties but it's gotten better.

 

[yoloaxel]

I think it was a lutz exactly because of the take off actually, to me it looks like a typical Evgenia lutz take off. Maybe someone experienced can tell us

I also thought she was practicing 3Lz because of the super long entrance

 

[chopinskate]

She seems to be gliding backwards into the opening jump of the combo, instead of doing a turn into the jump. It's likely a 3Lz-3T.

 

[flanker]

Of course I can be wrong but just compare her entrances to 3F and 3Lz here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRyl9ROnzec
0:58: 3F+3T
1:20: 3Lz
It's exactly how I described it, before 3F the other leg is in the air for a long time, whether before 3Lz she has the right leg on the ice crossing the left leg and she is rising it just before the jump. After all, 3F3T was her main combo (and main weapon ), so thats where she would probably start training again.

 

[yoloaxel]

She seems to be gliding backwards into the opening jump of the combo, instead of doing a turn into the jump. It's likely a 3Lz-3T.

Yeah, the more I look at it the more it seems like a lutz to me! Good for her if she’s training it

 

[OswinOswald]

I may be wrong, but at the end Misha seems to be miming her jump,or how she should have done it, and he's clearly miming Zhenya's entry of 3Lz (with crossed legs)

 

[Interspectator]

Watching Evgenia with the T-shirt Bazooka. So cute! :thumbsup:

 

[Hello from Brazil]

Watching Evgenia with the T-shirt Bazooka. So cute! [emoji106]

She was so happy!

 

[Shayuki]

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1003092633114181632

Is that her I spot doing a 3-3? Anyone know what 3-3 this is? Gosh With Yuzu and his 4T and Zhenya and her 3-3 at FAOI, Brian must be thinking "Kids - take it easy! I better fly to Japan right away!!!"

This is a Lutz entry. I didn't know she had a Lutz combo, actually.

This is actually helpful. Learning the entries is the best tip I can think to give

Absolutely. I can recognize every jump before they even happen, by the entries. It's very, very rare that I need to correct myself. I think that this is much more useful than concentrating on the jumps themselves(And that becomes far easier after you learn all entries).

 

[KiraraChin]

This is a Lutz entry. I didn't know she had a Lutz combo, actually

When I said a few days ago in a couple of other threads she is going to up her TES, there was general disbelief. I'm telling you guys, do not understimate Zhenya. As Brian said, what's she shown us so far is just the tip of the iceberg

 

[zounger]

She usually was adding a 3T on most of her jumps in official or unofficial practices. Even during the Olympics, she did 3LZ-3T, it's more like a training, warm up process.