Evgenia Medvedeva

[Iris81]

In addition to that, maybe also because Zagitova is already back to training whereas Zhenya is still on holiday.

Maybe people forget that Evgenia is still recovering from injury, so it's better for her to have a well-deserved rest and fully heal her foot.

And also maybe because it's offseason and fans are bored, so they speculate and invent different stuff. like Zhenya going to US or Canada, Weaver-Poje going to Montreal, Skoptsova leaving Kustarova, Drozd changing partner, Katsalapov going to Krylova and other "news", russian forums are full of this kind of rumors, which are mostly inventions of people with big imagination.

 

[hanyuyuzuru1207]

So is anyone gonna upload an english subbed version of the documentary on dailymotion to escape copyright slashes?

 

[esteticlove]

Maybe people forget that Evgenia is still recovering from injury, so it's better for her to have a well-deserved rest and fully heal her foot..

Yes, exactly. As far as I understood from you guys, she'll be able to start jumping again from 8. May. So now is probably the best time to go on holiday and finally rest. Maybe some of the people, who spread those rumours, didn't know that and only speculate.

 

[Yatagarasu]

If there was ever a time to question eteri’s methods and her judgment it’s now.

Yes, this is exactly it and there are plenty of reasons to question.
There are really only two things for Zhenya which she has to resolve:
1) can she pay for a new coach?
2) if yes, who is the new coach?
So even if she wants to, it's not that simple.

On the other hand, I am very much not going to dismiss the talk happening. On the contrary, I'm crossing my fingers for her.

 

[Lily flowers]

Yes, this is exactly it and there are plenty of reasons to question.
There are really only two things for Zhenya which she has to resolve:
1) can she pay for a new coach?
2) if yes, who is the new coach?
So even if she wants to, it's not that simple.

On the other hand, I am very much not going to dismiss the talk happening. On the contrary, I'm crossing my fingers for her.

Would the RusFed really allow it? And do you really think another coach would work for her?

 

[dante]

I wonder what happens in the heads of the people who pay more attention to gossip than to what Zhenya herself told in an interview after the Olympics.

 

[yoloaxel]

I wonder what happens in the heads of the people who pay more attention to gossip than to what Zhenya herself told in an interview after the Olympics.

Thank you. I choose to not believe gossip, no matter how believable or not they can be. The day Zhenya will say she's leaving Eteri, than that will be it, but since she's repeatedly said the exact opposite....:disapp:

 

[flanker]

So it was just Eteri dismissing the rumors? Zhenya hasn’t dismissed them yet publicly? I would not be surprised if she is considering leaving Eteri. She put all her trust in her, did exactly what she said for years with the one goal of getting Olympic gold. And her inexperienced teammate beat out the two time world champion. She has to be questioning her coach right now. And I’d assume her mother might be questioning it as well.

If Eteri knows this than it’s possible she is attempting to get out ahead of the rumors and show her support of Zhenya. But also make it more difficult to switch and find new coaches. If there was ever a time to question eteri’s methods and her judgment it’s now. Not that that means she is but I see these rumors as plausible until Zhenya goes on record.

Some people are really like from a dream. A BAD dream. Go about a month back in time when Zhenya strictly dismissed the last wave of those BS rumours about her leaving Eteri and even her country. She really doesn't have any obligation to do the same all over again and again and again just to curb, as was it said already, immature opinions. If I would be on her place, I would just ignore it completely, because there is no reasonable discussion with this. They will still repeat it from time to time and it just spoils the air so its better not to get involved in it.

 

[flanker]

She will leave. It is my last forecast left on off-season which hasn't happened, but it happens. This season (and last) a continuous chain of trainer's mistakes concerning Zhenya.

Mistakes? Like world and european champion least season, silver on OG and Euroepans this season (with fractured metatarsal bone) etc. I really must ask if such opinions are "fan-made" or "hater-made".

 

[Yatagarasu]

Would the RusFed really allow it? And do you really think another coach would work for her?

She has to be able to pay for it herself, which is not a small amount at all. If she can, I think she can go.

As for another coach, well look. I have as a whole, no major issues with Eteri. But in a year's time, where will they be? Trusova, Kostornaya, Anna S, Tarakanova, all seniors. Do you really think the Fed won't be pushing for those kids? And Eteri is a Fed coach. Look at how they dropped Zhenya this season, like a hot potato. Once not one, but all of them switch over, do you really think the Fed will care about one Zhenya Medvedeva? They care about medals and 'certain bets'. She will be fighting for spots, never mind anything else. Eteri herself doesn't have the best of views on the longevity of female skaters and how long will she hold on to Zhenya with new blood coming in?

So one of the ways to get around that, or at least try, is to get to a coach who can help her primarily technically and who isn't Fed dependent. She doesn't need Daniil. She can finally go abroad and get choreo from any top choreographer. But technically, someone strong enough in the field to work on her jumps is at this point what she can focus on. (It's kind of a pity Raf is out of the question now because he's good for the jumps, not so good for the rest but that's all right for her current self).

This really is about Zhenya and what her long-term outlook is and I don't see anything good there if she stays with Eteri. She has simply aged out of it, considering their system. But if she wants to jump ship, the time is now, so that she can have at least one season to adjust with only Alina there, before the others come in.
If she stays, she stays, and everything crossed.

As for the rumors and it's never ever happening.
Yeah, and she wasn't injured, and everything was all right and those silly rumors are not true stop it. How did that work out?
It would be highly surprising if these particular rumors are true as it would be very difficult to resolve the two issues I mentioned up there, even if she wants to, but what people say in public is never a reason to go - oh they're not true. They're public figures and nothing should be taken at face value. Difficulties involved with her potential leaving are a far bigger reason to think they're not true.

 

[skatingfan200]

@dante great to see you back. Did you manage to see Zhenya live in person?

Also the admins on vk delete many comments under her documentary.https://twitter.com/mjoitt/status/991030599480692737
Could you translate it? This comment was one of the most liked but it got deleted.

 

[Yatagarasu]

@dante great to see you back. Did you manage to see Zhenya live in person?

Also the admins on vk delete many comments under her documentary.https://twitter.com/mjoitt/status/991030599480692737
Could you translate it? This comment was one of the most liked but it got deleted.

It's basically saying what I've been saying.
In short, that the Fed wanted gold for Russia, so they went for Alina. That they didn't support Zhenya enough. Then compares it to the Yuzuru/Shoma situation and JSF that could have pushed for Shoma's components, and how they believed in Hanyu.

 

[charlotte14]

It's basically saying what I've been saying.
In short, that the Fed wanted gold for Russia, so they went for Alina. That they didn't support Zhenya enough. Then compares it to the Yuzuru/Shoma situation and JSF that could have pushed for Shoma's components, and how they believed in Hanyu.

JSF did their best to push their No.2 but USFA has always been stronger. On the other hand, Russian feds were secured no.1 and 2 but they still went for Alina.

 

[Yatagarasu]

JSF did their best to push their No.2 but USFA has always been stronger. On the other hand, Russian feds were secured no.1 and 2 but they still went for Alina.

Yes, I mean, I get the sentiment the poster is going for but it's not entirely correct. This is not the place to get into the whole JSF thing so eh.
But yes, I mean the Fed went with security as the gold mattered to them way more than anything else. At the point of Euros, Alina was the safe bet and that was that. It was over. We talked about that here at the time. I wish we were wrong but we were not.

 

[skatingfan200]

Yes, I mean, I get the sentiment the poster is going for but it's not entirely correct. This is not the place to get into the whole JSF thing so eh.
But yes, I mean the Fed went with security as the gold mattered to them way more than anything else. At the point of Euros, Alina was the safe bet and that was that. It was over. We talked about that here at the time. I wish we were wrong but we were not.

So, after Zhenya´s injury, the Russian Fed feared if they do not push Alina then they will lose gold?

 

[Fun Fun Tea]

LOL
I read some complaints about the same thing from Alina's fans. As some of them being banned in this VK group.. "with no reason" as they claim.....
i think.... this group just don't tolerate any kind of fight between fans or any skaters comparison.
They ban this kind of users who afterward are crying and thinks that "there was no reason for it".

Well. They didn't post new documentary about Zhenya, though they posted meeting with Alina.
It is the 'main' Eteri group in vk.
Seems at least suspicious

 

[madison]

I think the Russian Fed would have preferred Zhenya to win. It proves the marks of the Russian judge which were higher for Evgenia than for Alina.
But it happened that in the same time they also pushed Alina, because they weren't sure enough on Evgenia, if she could skate with the injury. GPF was a major point.... Alina was regarded as the Russian no 1.
And it ended as it ended. Alina's PCS raised enough to outscore Evgenia

 

[Fun Fun Tea]

So, after Zhenya´s injury, the Russian Fed feared if they do not push Alina they will lose gold?

Yes

 

[Yatagarasu]

So, after Zhenya´s injury, the Russian Fed feared if they do not push Alina they will lose gold?

Basically.
They wanted that gold and weren't sure Zhenya would be able to get there so switched to pushing Alina's PCS.

 

[Fun Fun Tea]

Alina's PCS raised enough to outscore Evgenia

Alina's PCS on Euro was higher than Zhenya's on JO this season ))