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I thought the same yesterday. I hope she can skip this long journey because it will cost her trainingshours and a lot of energy. Highly likely the RusFed will understand that.

At the same time, I think not showing up might be damaging for her at this pivotal moment - it's a moment when the Fed gives the skaters feedback on their new programs, not going may be taken as an "I don't care about your opinion now that I train in Canada" by some.
 
At the same time, I think not showing up might be damaging for her at this pivotal moment - it's a moment when the Fed gives the skaters feedback on their new programs, not going may be taken as an "I don't care about your opinion now that I train in Canada" by some.

Hmm, we will see. She has now a star bonus and some people from the Fed will probably travel to Canada.

https://twitter.com/medvegitova/status/995585622164365312
18:30 Ice Age kids
21:00 is this "Glacial divorce"?
 
http://www.sport-express.ru/figure-skating/reviews/sistema-tutberidze-eto-rabskiy-trud-prizer-olimpiad-o-rasstavanii-medvedevoy-i-ee-trenera-1407816/

"Is Tutberidze's system slave labour?" 1992 and 1994 Olympic medalist and sports psychologist Elizaveta Kozhevnikova - about Medvedeva, Tutberidze and kids in olympic sport.

- What do you dislike about Tutberidze's methods?
- Even before the Olympics, I came across some old interview, where she talks about athletes as a material from which to mold. The majority of my clients are athletes, of whom "molded". It is very difficult for them to solve their professional problems, because the head and body are "split" because they were suppressed as a child.

- One need obscures all others. The same thing happens with the athlete who "must" comply with the standard, but he does not succeed. Fear obscures everything. The paradox is that it is impossible to achieve an ideal. So, the athlete, motivated in this way, stumbles into the eternal history of inadequacy. On the example of Zhenya Medvedeva, the second place in the Olympic Games is perceived as a failure and a catastrophe. And further purely at the physiological level, an imbalance is fixed: too many stress hormones that begin to destroy serotonin pathways - the athlete can not experience pleasure from himself and from his achievements. As a result, we get a person who is constantly in a state of irritation and discontent.

- And what should I do?
- There are several ways of compensation: eating disorders, alcohol, shopping. Remember the story with Julia Lipnitskaya. Instead of a painstaking process, where a child slowly learns to combine his values ​​and hard work in sports, he is quickly hammered into the "do it" standard. There is an ideal, and everything below the ideal is thrash and shame. But in the end we get a person with a hole in self-identity.

- Can Medvedeva get his best results in Canada with Brian Orser?
- Zhenya is an excellent sportswoman - clever, strong-willed, disciplined. But now it is very important for her to recover emotionally. I can only assume that she is experiencing Eteri Georgievna's figure if for her it was the second person closest to her after her mother. Its adaptation will take time. Foreign protocols say that it takes two months, but this is provided that the athlete has developed in the system of respect for the age periodization. My experience suggests that with our athletes this can take 6-12 months of psychophysiological practice.

Interesting point of view from a sport psychologist.
 
http://www.sport-express.ru/figure-skating/reviews/sistema-tutberidze-eto-rabskiy-trud-prizer-olimpiad-o-rasstavanii-medvedevoy-i-ee-trenera-1407816/

"Is Tutberidze's system slave labour?" 1992 and 1994 Olympic medalist and sports psychologist Elizaveta Kozhevnikova - about Medvedeva, Tutberidze and kids in olympic sport.

- What do you dislike about Tutberidze's methods?
- Even before the Olympics, I came across some old interview, where she talks about athletes as a material from which to mold. The majority of my clients are athletes, of whom "molded". It is very difficult for them to solve their professional problems, because the head and body are "split" because they were suppressed as a child.

- One need obscures all others. The same thing happens with the athlete who "must" comply with the standard, but he does not succeed. Fear obscures everything. The paradox is that it is impossible to achieve an ideal. So, the athlete, motivated in this way, stumbles into the eternal history of inadequacy. On the example of Zhenya Medvedeva, the second place in the Olympic Games is perceived as a failure and a catastrophe. And further purely at the physiological level, an imbalance is fixed: too many stress hormones that begin to destroy serotonin pathways - the athlete can not experience pleasure from himself and from his achievements. As a result, we get a person who is constantly in a state of irritation and discontent.

- And what should I do?
- There are several ways of compensation: eating disorders, alcohol, shopping. Remember the story with Julia Lipnitskaya. Instead of a painstaking process, where a child slowly learns to combine his values ​​and hard work in sports, he is quickly hammered into the "do it" standard. There is an ideal, and everything below the ideal is thrash and shame. But in the end we get a person with a hole in self-identity.

- Can Medvedev get his best results in Canada with Brian Orser?
- Zhenya is an excellent sportswoman - clever, strong-willed, disciplined. But now it is very important for her to recover emotionally. I can only assume that she is experiencing Eteri Georgievna's figure if for her it was the second person closest to her after her mother. Its adaptation will take time. Foreign protocols say that it takes two months, but this is provided that the athlete has developed in the system of respect for the age periodization. My experience suggests that with our athletes this can take 6-12 months of psychophysiological practice.


Interesting point of view from a sports psychologist.

I'm not sure to understand this part; what exactly is the adaptation she's talking about? Just the life in Canada or something else related to the emotional recovery?
 
:pray:
The article is interesting though. I hope those 6 to 12 months necessary for the adaptation won't be a problem for the next season :scratch2:

We never know for example when has the process started in zhenya´s head to leave Eteri...

But i see the things positive. Zhenya´s behaviour after the Olympics is right. She has let her body heal and she did not start in Milan.
Maybe she can more emotionally recover in Canada where the russian press is not everywhere.
 
If we are talking about what music or program we would like Zhenya to skate to, I'm gonna say I REALLY want her to keep the past theme (death and tragedy) as that theme would go sooooo well with the music of Pan's Labyrinth. I think the character of Ofelia relates so much to Zhenya!!!! It would be beautiful

Whoa. Pan's Labyrinth is PERFECT for her. I said she suits dark fairy tales well and some how did now think of Pan's Labyrinth.

Excellent recommendation.
 
So great to know that Zhenya can now train safely and injury free! Let's not worry about her overdoing it, she said she's been texting with Brian everyday, I'm sure he will tell her what to do and not to do :)
 
I don't get why there's so much hoopla over the clash of Canadian vs Russiantraining methods. Skaters from other countries train abroad all the time and do fine. Where was the hand wringing over Honda and Hanyu moving abroad to train?
 
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