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Evgenia Medvedeva

Quads are so so dangerous, we saw what it did to GOAT Hanyu. I would not want her to risk getting injured. Yes those two girls have quads but we do not know what will happen in the future. I have no idea what will happen but let’s just hope she can do well this season.
 
flanker said:
Hate is irrational, there can't be reasoning with it. But don't be fooled that this is one-way road. E. g. Alina is facing hard hate (not only) from some Zhenya's "fans" too.
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It's like some people don't understand that you can be upset that Alina outscored her in the Olympics and still not say mean things about her. You can even like her and still think she should have been the silver medalist.

Myself, I'm kind of torn. I don't think she should have won gold, but I also like her alright and feel sorry for her for having to hear from the entire Internet that she shouldn't have won gold. Poor kid just did her best, and her best was quite good. She should have been praised and petted right away instead of being left to sit there with that little doll, waiting for someone to congratulate her.

I cheered for her to win silver at Worlds (I wanted Kostner to get that gold in the twilight of her career, in her own country), and when she started falling, I felt horrible for her, and yet...and yet in the back of my mind, in the corners, I was feeling smug, thinking, "See? You're not the real deal; you're not like Zhenya," and then I feel guilty that part of me feels that way. I don't rub her loss at Worlds in her fans' faces, and I am disappointed when I see some of Zhenya's other fans doing it, but I understand, because even though I was rooting for her and felt bad when she fell, part of me laughed, yet I was careful to only post consolations on the video comments, which was not a lie; I did feel sorry for her and had hoped she'd do well. It's okay to be upset that Zhenya won silver instead of gold, but you don't have to be a troll on forums and YouTube comments. It wasn't Alina's fault; all she did was skate her best, same as Zhenya and every other athlete. Be mad at the judges, or be mad at Eteri, but don't say mean things to a kid who simply did what she was trained to do.
 
50 Words for Snow said:
It's like some people don't understand that you can be upset that Alina outscored her in the Olympics and still not say mean things about her. You can even like her and still think she should have been the silver medalist.

Myself, I'm kind of torn. I don't think she should have won gold, but I also like her alright and feel sorry for her for having to hear from the entire Internet that she shouldn't have won gold. Poor kid just did her best, and her best was quite good. She should have been praised and petted right away instead of being left to sit there with that little doll, waiting for someone to congratulate her.

I cheered for her to win silver at Worlds (I wanted Kostner to get that gold in the twilight of her career, in her own country), and when she started falling, I felt horrible for her, and yet...and yet in the back of my mind, in the corners, I was feeling smug, thinking, "See? You're not the real deal; you're not like Zhenya," and then I feel guilty that part of me feels that way. I don't rub her loss at Worlds in her fans' faces, and I am disappointed when I see some of Zhenya's other fans doing it, but I understand, because even though I was rooting for her and felt bad when she fell, part of me laughed, yet I was careful to only post consolations on the video comments, which was not a lie; I did feel sorry for her and had hoped she'd do well. It's okay to be upset that Zhenya won silver instead of gold, but you don't have to be a troll on forums and YouTube comments. It wasn't Alina's fault; all she did was skate her best, same as Zhenya and every other athlete. Be mad at the judges, or be mad at Eteri, but don't say mean things to a kid who simply did what she was trained to do.
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Anyway, everyone can think and feel as they wish, but that's not the same as going insult other people on social networks.
That's just weird, what's the point? :scratch2:

But I have to admit that from a certain point a view it is amusing to see the haters trying to express themselves (I mean, for example the guy who criticized Zhenya (about her weight I think? ) on Instagram last week, that's just so stupid that you can't take it seriously :biggrin: And Zhenya doesn't, so everything is fine :drama: )

Why speak about haters actually? Forget them and focus on Zhenya :love:
 
OswinOswald said:
Anyway, everyone can think and feel as they wish, but that's not the same as going insult other people on social networks.
That's just weird, what's the point? :scratch2:

But I have to admit that from a certain point a view it is amusing to see the haters trying to express themselves (I mean, for example the guy who criticized Zhenya (about her weight I think? ) on Instagram last week, that's just so stupid that you can't take it seriously :biggrin: And Zhenya doesn't, so everything is fine :drama: )

Why speak about haters actually? Forget them and focus on Zhenya :love:
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Agreed--back on topic I go! Now I have to watch Breakfast at Tiffany's as soon as I'm finished with Tokyo Ghoul. She keeps me busy, trying to share in her entertainments. :p
 
50 Words for Snow said:
It's like some people don't understand that you can be upset that Alina outscored her in the Olympics and still not say mean things about her. You can even like her and still think she should have been the silver medalist.

Myself, I'm kind of torn. I don't think she should have won gold, but I also like her alright and feel sorry for her for having to hear from the entire Internet that she shouldn't have won gold. Poor kid just did her best, and her best was quite good. She should have been praised and petted right away instead of being left to sit there with that little doll, waiting for someone to congratulate her.

I cheered for her to win silver at Worlds (I wanted Kostner to get that gold in the twilight of her career, in her own country), and when she started falling, I felt horrible for her, and yet...and yet in the back of my mind, in the corners, I was feeling smug, thinking, "See? You're not the real deal; you're not like Zhenya," and then I feel guilty that part of me feels that way. I don't rub her loss at Worlds in her fans' faces, and I am disappointed when I see some of Zhenya's other fans doing it, but I understand, because even though I was rooting for her and felt bad when she fell, part of me laughed, yet I was careful to only post consolations on the video comments, which was not a lie; I did feel sorry for her and had hoped she'd do well. It's okay to be upset that Zhenya won silver instead of gold, but you don't have to be a troll on forums and YouTube comments. It wasn't Alina's fault; all she did was skate her best, same as Zhenya and every other athlete. Be mad at the judges, or be mad at Eteri, but don't say mean things to a kid who simply did what she was trained to do.
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This is just such an accurate post I can‘t even begin to describe it. I find it weird, too, really because I do like Alina. I like her personality, her relationship with her little dog is adorable, she’s always sweet and humble and I‘ve grown on her skating as well. I like her. But I still believe with all my heart that Zhenya should have won the Olympics. And now I feel bad when I‘m posting into Alina‘s fanfest because as everyone seemed to take sides in this rivalry I feel like I can‘t really like both. Even though I do. With worlds, it was the same for me. I was rooting for Alina to get this silver, too (Because Kostner...) and when she had her first fall, I was like: „Okay, she‘s got a major mistake! Yes! Caro get that!“ and then she kept falling and falling and falling. And I realised that I really, really didn’t like to see her fall. And when she cried afterwards... I felt so bad for her and at me because I was secretly thinking: „Caro, win!“ and: „Zhenya would have won her 3rd world title right now had she been here...“ But I also felt sympathy for Alina as I realised she wasn‘t the robotic jumping bean I made her to be in my thoughts when I was angry at Zhenya‘s loss at the Olympics. So I kind of became a fan of her when she failed. Which is pretty ironic, to be honest. And now I like them both and am cheering for them. Zhenya for gold, always. Alina for silver. But I won‘t be too sad when Alina wins. She‘s grown on me, she and her tutus. :)

And now, to focus on something else: Anyone got any predictions what Zhenya‘s SP‘s going to be? A warhorse a la Phantom of the Opera? Tango? Personally, I‘m open to everything. I‘d love to see her try something new but I also kind of like her old style already very much. But I expect she‘ll do something completely different after this big change. :)
 
Important quote about Zhenya´s mental strength (ELLE Interview)

"When I was injured, I mentally forced my body to recover faster, convinced myself that I was completely healthy. In the end, it helped me."
 
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IndiaP12 said:
Hmm, yes, about the Olympics: I don’t think Zhenya should have won gold. Well that sounds a bit harsh, but I don’t know how else to say it. Of course she didn’t not deserve to, nobody is undeserving of a gold medal rightfully earned (apart from Adelina Sotnikova maybe, but that’s a different story) I love Zhenya and she has a very sweet and kind and funny personality and I like her skating...but (you can tell from my profile picture) I would pick Alina over her. If you think about Alina’s performances then you can see it. At the Olympics, Zhenya had just come back from an injury, and Alina also had a more difficult program than her. I believe if Zhenya was stronger and had slightly more difficult programs it would close that 1-2 point margin between their scores. But it’s pretty damn hard to beat Alina’s programs when they are clean - all jumps in the second half, 3lz+3lo combo. Maybe Eteri thought that Zhenya’s PCS would get her the higher scores. That’s probably what others thought too. Because she was the 2-time world champion, the older one, had the longer career and was probably the most known of the two. But it kind of annoys me how lots of people were SAD about Zhenya getting silver and thinking that Alina shouldn’t have got gold. Alina did her best, the and rightfully earned her gold medal. I think Zhenya and her fans should just be so happy about the fact that she skated 3 beautiful clean programs and came away with 2 silver medals after her injury and all. She didn’t lOse. She won in a way, because she skated clean and got not one medal but two. That would put her down even more I bet, people saying all over the internet she should have won gold instead of congratulating her on her silver. People underestimated Alina and I feel bad about that too. Yep it was a shock to some that Zhenya got the silver medal but I wouldn’t say it was a disappointment at all. One or another had to get the gold; there couldn’t be two. Both girls are amazing and they both deserved their medals. Just have a long think and analysis of the past season. Europeans, GP series. I was just more than relieved they skated clean and that the judges had lots of sense *cough Sochi* [emoji23] P.S this is not hate, nothing of the sort. I love both girls. It was also very good for Alina who in fact hadn’t skated a perfectly clean SP up until Europeans yet you’d seen how clean and strong her FS was all season, it was hard to beat.
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Well I like both girls and both have different skating techniques. I just prefer Evgenia. Maybe it's the miming. lol Anyways, I think Alina skated "better" overall or had a more difficult program so she won gold. I honestly would rather Evgenia win Silver against Alina who skated cleanly than to win gold because Alina fell. That would have been a hollow victory. I want Evgenia to win gold because she was undoubtedly the best if that makes any sense. Even she says in an interview that you can't rely on someone falling. If you do then it means that you're not as good. Anyways, I really don't want any skater to fall and I'd rather see them all skate cleanly. It's disheartening to see a skater who has trained hundreds of hours and spent thousands of dollars just to compete in a single event and stumble. And now for a palate cleanser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCPAmbCZxM
 
tomc100 said:
Well I like both girls and both have different skating techniques. I just prefer Evgenia. Maybe it's the miming. lol Anyways, I think Alina skated "better" overall or had a more difficult program so she won gold. I honestly would rather Evgenia win Silver against Alina who skated cleanly than to win gold because Alina fell. That would have been a hollow victory. I want Evgenia to win gold because she was undoubtedly the best if that makes any sense. Even she says in an interview that you can't rely on someone falling. If you do then it means that you're not as good. Anyways, I really don't want any skater to fall and I'd rather see them all skate cleanly. It's disheartening to see a skater who has trained hundreds of hours and spent thousands of dollars just to compete in a single event and stumble. And now for a palate cleanser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCPAmbCZxM
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Exactly! That’s part of what I was trying to say. Well said. Yes, I love that video [emoji23] Zhenya shooting all the haters
 
You know, I really regret that the Russian team could not win gold in the team competition of skaters. Then Zhenya and Alina were Olympic Champions together.
 
astudyofmemory said:
I REALLY LOVE THIS SONG and ever since I heard it when it was released I’ve actually been thinking about how much I want her to skate to it! 🤣 You’ll be in Canada, after all, Miss Zhenya...please skate to The Weeknd. 😭 Highly unlikely, but a girl can dream!
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She's killing us with the suspense, isn't she ;)
 
skatingfan200 said:
Important quote about Zhenya´s mental strength (ELLE Interview)

"When I was injured, I mentally forced my body to recover faster, convinced myself that I was completely healthy. In the end, it helped me."
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I agree Zhenya has incredible mental strength, but that quote is not necessarily the best example. I’m not sure that she should have come back so soon or trained like she did. Clearly it was an Olympic season so she has to push herself, but I think true mental strength is being in touch with ones body/health and willingness to acknowledge adversity (while also not letting it interfere with performance). Not use things as an excuse, but to recognize them for what they are.

Mental toughness doesn’t heal broken bones. Positive outlook might help healing, but at the end of the day denying the existence of pain is likely how she got a stress fracture.
 
yoloaxel said:
LMAO I wanted to say the same thing but I didn't want to throw Mikhail under the bus. But yes, if he hadn't had 2 absolute meltdowns they could have done it.
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Well, throwing under the bus or not, we should be objective. And reality is that both Zagitova and Medvedeva have done maximum at team event, convincingly winning both their segments. But there was someone who hasn't performed even at average level :devil: :biggrin:
 
In reality, the whole team sincerely supported Michael because there is no skater who is immune from such meltdowns. It isn't necessary to go very far for examples. What happened is happened, on the other hand now Med has a huge motivation to continue all the cycle and go for her dream.
 
Of course, it can happen to anyone! I feel sympathy for Mikhail and I quite like him as a skater! Still, I wish he hadn’t chosen the OG to have a meltdown ahahah but yes, now Zhenya is more motivated than ever
 
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