Evgenia Medvedeva

[Wheelz]

I think Zhenya spoiled us all a bit with a lot of Instagram stories and photos throughout her time in Canada. I miss her posts already and it’s only been a few days

 

[Amef]

I think Zhenya spoiled us all a bit with a lot of Instagram stories and photos throughout her time in Canada. I miss her posts already and it’s only been a few days

The Season is about to start! Any confirmation whether she will skate in Autumn Classic this season? Or is it definite?

 

[nervosa]

So, it wasn‘t referring to Evgenia at all but to Eteri? That would be quite hilarious.

It really is hilarious...

But in all honesty, I don't think Eteri is someone who does things out of malice. And after all, Zhenya trained at Sambo six or seven hours a day, six days a week. The hours were probably much less when she was younger, but she trained under Eteri for eleven years, most of her life so far. And in those years, Zhenya went from a girl to a young woman. I think in an interview from about March, Eteri said something like "Zhenya is a moral girl. I raised a moral girl," before saying since Zhenya hadn't been replying to her texts, when she came back she should come with flowers. If you think about it, Eteri really must have been a massive influence on Zhenya as she grew up. It would be much stranger if Eteri wasn't upset.

 

[Tavi...]

As per usual, TSL accomplishes its task of making itself more visible by piggy-backing the human tendency of letting gossip and rumours take over their mind, spreading their malice by inserting the usual question of "but what if it really happened?" into the thoughts of people who listen to them, oblivious to the possibility that the boogie men might disappear if enough people stopped talking about them.

You guys might be interested to know that Brian sometimes favorites TSL posts on Instagram. Granted those are usually pictures, but it suggests the possibility that he doesn’t think Dave / TSL are complete trash.

 

[Watch]

It doesn't make sense for any of them to have said that actually.

Women in Russia, as elsewhere, need education and employment to be secure.

While there are some general social pressures to have children early, we've seen no evidence to support that in the elite skating milieu.

From my understanding, many Sambo70 skaters and those of other elite training centres follow university programs once they complete high school.

If anything both Eteri and the federation might have expressed concerns that Zhenya will miss out on some of Moscow University's programs that lay the foundation for coaching and choreography.

I think I actually know where they got and distorted the "go have babies" thing from. Eteri is known to have said in at least one of her interviews that grown women don't jump as easily as young girls because after puberty their bodies "have prepared for motherhood". Which in itself isn't a controversal idea (grown female skaters have a different body than pre-puberty), but the fact that she has thrown the "motherhood" angle into it has gotten her some ridicule from people who dislike her. At this point it's a thing that gets brought up over and over again among Russian skating fans and has become somewhat of a meme. I have a strong feeling someone told it to the TSL guys and it morphed into "Eteri and Rusfed told Evgenia to go have babies".

 

[KiraraChin]

My thought is that we should be looking at the season by season incremental improvements that were made on Javier Fernandez' jumps.

While he wasn't at Zhenya's level when he came to TCC, it was a long slow progress to improve his technique.

And there was significant progress on his edge at take-off on the 3Lz even in the last two seasons. 18 months ago it was easy to see in slow motion that he had a tendency to rock back to towards the inside edge just before take-off. But by last winter he was avoiding edge calls and !s.

Orser has the reputation, as David Wilson pointed out in his interview, as being a 'fixer'. He can see a problem and its causes, break it down for the skater and work away at it. Sometimes a small change makes a big difference, other times it's step by step.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm hoping for. It would be unrealistic to expect big changes in one season, but steady incremental changes would be great.

 

[SatyamHair12]

Wow, great inforamtion

 

[Orlov]

At this point it's a thing that gets brought up over and over again among Russian skating fans and has become somewhat of a meme. I have a strong feeling someone told it to the TSL guys and it morphed into "Eteri and Rusfed told Evgenia to go have babies".

I would like to clarify. "among Russian skating fans" - it's about limited number ubers from fso-forum with the activity of mad printer and maintaining their unity through the endless replication of memes "bouquet", "motherhood", etc (Although, this typical for the all Internet). But I agree with you, these TSL-guys according to the Russian proverb "hear the ringing but don't know where it's coming from."

 

[Watch]

I've seen it somewhere on the vk boards too, but yeah, it comes down to people who dislike Eteri memeing something she said and the TSLers hearing something and remixing it into new gossip, as they often do.

 

[yoloaxel]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm hoping for. It would be unrealistic to expect big changes in one season, but steady incremental changes would be great.

I agree. I wonder how much can be seen from ACI\test skates. I know Brian has said multiple times that it takes at least a year for his method to truly start working, so I doubt we'll see anything major at all, but still... maybe some tiny improvements

 

[Watch]

I agree. I wonder how much can be seen from ACI\test skates. I know Brian has said multiple times that it takes at least a year for his method to truly start working, so I doubt we'll see anything major at all, but still... maybe some tiny improvements

Yeah, maybe a bit. Seeing real change would certainly take more time than 2.5 months. But I'm so excited to see the choreo and the layout of the jumps (and which jumps? ahhh)! I have no idea what to expect, honestly. And not just from Zhenya, but from any of her competition either... this is going to be such an exciting start into the season. Everything's new, I feel like I can make no predictions whatsoever.

 

[chopinskate]

You guys might be interested to know that Brian sometimes favorites TSL posts on Instagram. Granted those are usually pictures, but it suggests the possibility that he doesn’t think Dave / TSL are complete trash.

He's entitled to his wrong opinion. I don't particularly hold Orser in high regards either.

 

[yoloaxel]

Yeah, maybe a bit. Seeing real change would certainly take more time than 2.5 months. But I'm so excited to see the choreo and the layout of the jumps (and which jumps? ahhh)! I have no idea what to expect, honestly. And not just from Zhenya, but from any of her competition either... this is going to be such an exciting start into the season. Everything's new, I feel like I can make no predictions whatsoever.

Yes, it will definitely be an exciting season!

I too wonder a lot about what her layout is going to look like, together with the programs of course - but I feel like the layout will give us a better idea of their strategy

 

[Fluture]

He's entitled to his wrong opinion. I don't particularly hold Orser in high regards either.

Who says your opinion is the right one, though? No offense but seriously. I don‘t like TSL a lot either but they do get some things right. Not very often but still.

 

[charlotte14]

You guys might be interested to know that Brian sometimes favorites TSL posts on Instagram. Granted those are usually pictures, but it suggests the possibility that he doesn’t think Dave / TSL are complete trash.

I think TCC coaches and choreographers are busy and have no time to listen to all the trash from TSL videos. I do not have time to do that either. Usually it's the fans who listen to every details notice how gossipy and trashy TSL is. I think Brian, Tracy or DW mostly just see TSL as a podcast source and nothing more. They simply like the photos and videos on their timelines. I think you are reading too much into this. Sometimes I watched fancam recorded by TSL not because I like them or something. It is simply convenient and it is there.

 

[chopinskate]

Who says your opinion is the right one, though? No offense but seriously. I don‘t like TSL a lot either but they do get some things right. Not very often but still.

I'm entitled to my wrong opinion too. I don't particularly feel like changing it. Frankly, don't care enough.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I'm entitled to my wrong opinion too. I don't particularly feel like changing it. Frankly, don't care enough.

You sound like Holly from Dance Moms: https://giphy.com/gifs/dance-moms-gif-black-woman-beK5AJR8eeiv6

 

[Fluture]

I'm entitled to my wrong opinion too. I don't particularly feel like changing it. Frankly, don't care enough.

Umm.... okay

 

[Tavi...]

I think TCC coaches and choreographers are busy and have no time to listen to all the trash from TSL videos. I do not have time to do that either. Usually it's the fans who listen to every details notice how gossipy and trashy TSL is. I think Brian, Tracy or DW mostly just see TSL as a podcast source and nothing more. They simply like the photos and videos on their timelines. I think you are reading too much into this. Sometimes I watched fancam recorded by TSL not because I like them or something. It is simply convenient and it is there.

Hi - this thread is about Evgenia, not TSL, so I don’t want to derail it by discussing TSL at length. I posted that for information only; people can draw their own conclusions.

Back to Evgenia, I can’t wait to see her new programs and the changes she’s made!

 

[KiraraChin]

Hi - this thread is about Evgenia, not TSL, so I don’t want to derail it by discussing TSL at length. I posted that for information only; people can draw their own conclusions.

Back to Evgenia, I can’t wait to see her new programs and the changes she’s made!

Thanks, Tavi... I was going to say the exact same thing - let's go back to talking about Zhenya!

Aaaaaaaahhh I wonder if she'll be at ACI! As much as I loved the ice shows, I really miss seeing her competing!