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Evgenia Medvedeva

Hopefully Zhenya will get a lot of new tips on how to improve her 3A in TCC.
I am sure she is trying her best to make it.
 
Nah. Overrotation is not an indication of ability for one more revolution.
If you look at the men, where the 3A is much more prevalent, it is still the problem jump. You have skaters who have quads, plural, and have trouble with the 3A. I am pretty sure Nathan would not mind chucking the Axel out of his programs if the rules only allowed for that.

She's smart not to even look at the possibility of a 3A. It's an incredibly difficult jump, even when a woman has a very good 2A (as can be seen with say Wakaba) and she doesn't. She's also not fond of it so the best tactic is the one she's after right now. Perfect the 2A as much as possible, give it good height, ice coverage, flow, with nice transitions and then let it sit and be stable.
I have no idea about the quad possibility but she will try in harness and then they can decide. These days many find the sal easier than the toe and that's the one they would first go for, plus it is a good jump for her. Not until next off season anyway. And with work to get her more strength for sure.
That Pirouette interview cited earlier was interesting on the subject of her jump training.

She said she did a lot of work in harness since she came to TCC.

The implication was that it was necessary because of the injury.

But it's also a good and safe way to focus on one thing at a time when a coach is seeking to make major improvements in jump technique.
 
"There will be certainly no 3A, but 4S is possible in the future. " But why does she think 3A is not possible for her? Does this mean she's not even gonna try to do it?
She needs both 4sal and 3A to win against the juniors who turn senior next season
I agree. At least she needs 4S and 4T (nearby to 4S).
 
We do not know if ladies will need fully rotated 3A or quads to win WC or Olympic. Having said that, I am certain as long as Russian fed is behind their favourite, UR will almost not get called.
 
Don't forget that you're reading an English translation of a Russian translation (possible summarised translation) of a German article with an interview that was originally conducted either in Russian or in English. With four levels of translations in between, there's no point to read too much into exact wording.

Anyway, 2A has always been her weakest jump and 3S her strongest. Makes sense that she thinks or thought at the point of the interview that 4S was a more realistic goal than 3A for her.

Anyone know where can we find the original article?
 
I agree with everyone that says 3A is completely unrealistic for her, and I also think 4S may happen in the future. Her 3S is extremely good already and the ones she did in training at test skates had lots of height :) who knows! I'm glad she wants to try it!
 
I agree. At least she needs 4S and 4T (nearby to 4S).

Not really. Zhenya's aiming for 2022 Olympics, she doesn't need to win everything until then. Besides, there's no guarantee the Russian juniors will be able to continue jumping quads reliably as they inevitably grow. In the first place, it doesn't matter to get paranoid about the future because she can't do anything right now. Zhenya needs to gain back her strength and let her back heal and get back into form just to face this season before worrying about quads.
 
IMO, I think it's going to take time for the quad trend to stick in the Ladies. When you consider that the first 3As, for instance, was landed 30 years ago and we still only have a handful of ladies who have landed it since then, I don't see it suddenly becoming a THING to have quads in Ladies programs.

And even with men, while it seems sudden the "quad revolution" in the last few season, the early adopters came in the late 80s/early 90s as well, so another 30 year gap.

I think there will be early adopters and others who may make it a key part of their competitive arsenal and you may have one or two folks who may potentially run away with the competition with it, but it remains to be seen whether it will be a bona fide requirement to be competitive.

Zhenya is smart to focus on what she can do now and take it one step at a time.
 
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Not really. Zhenya's aiming for 2022 Olympics, she doesn't need to win everything until then. Besides, there's no guarantee the Russian juniors will be able to continue jumping quads reliably as they inevitably grow. In the first place, it doesn't matter to get paranoid about the future because she can't do anything right now. Zhenya needs to gain back her strength and let her back heal and get back into form just to face this season before worrying about quads.

I think that the problem is not going to be the juniors that can currently jump quads (they can also be a problem if they 'survive' puberty) but the 15 year old girl coming from juniors who hasn't hit puberty yet in 2022 who will land quads. Zhenya needs to be ready. Of course if her health problems don't allow her, she won't try learning a quad. But if she is healthy enough she should try it.
 
Regardless of whether Zhenya is going to master 4S or not, I like that she takes the quad-"threat" seriously and has the ambition to learn it herself. Having watched and read a lot of interviews and the like by different senior ladies' skaters this off-season, I'm pretty sure she's the only one to even state that goal. The go-to answer for most is either voicing doubt that junior quads can survive it to seniors or lamenting how young skaters have an easier time jumping. And I get where they're coming from and don't blame anyone for having this kind of reaction, but I'm glad to see that Zhenya is treating female quads like a thing that's coming and that she wants to be a part of. Again, regardless of how things will turn out. It's just something I like about her character.
 
Made a low quality meme for fun. (Not trying to point and laugh, sorry if it's in a bit of poor taste.) Anyway, nice posts, Mrs. P and Watch. And @luanddu, I hadn't thought of that :/ That's definitely true.

https://imgur.com/UdP5mkR
 
Regardless of whether Zhenya is going to master 4S or not, I like that she takes the quad-"threat" seriously and has the ambition to learn it herself. Having watched and read a lot of interviews and the like by different senior ladies' skaters this off-season, I'm pretty sure she's the only one to even state that goal. The go-to answer for most is either voicing doubt that junior quads can survive it to seniors or lamenting how young skaters have an easier time jumping. And I get where they're coming from and don't blame anyone for having this kind of reaction, but I'm glad to see that Zhenya is treating female quads like a thing that's coming and that she wants to be a part of. Again, regardless of how things will turn out. It's just something I like about her character.

Very true Zhenya is a very strong competitor and makes her opponents beat her. She’s not one to choke and fall apart.

I think the most important thing for Zhenya over the next four years is to get physically stronger and staying healthy.
 
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https://www.ifsmagazine.com/2018-russian-test-skates-review/
ifsmagazine - russian test skate (Zhenya´s part)

Medvedeva arrived in Moscow on Sep. 5 with her new coach Brian Orser and choreographer David Wilson. Naturally, she was nervous, but she has always been mentally strong and dealt well with her nerves. Medvedeva left a good impression at the test skates, even though she forgot part of her long program to “Mumuki” and Astor Piazzolla’s “Libertango.” The 18-year-old was better prepared in her “Orange Colored Sky” short, an upbeat, jazzy piece by Natalie Cole that works well with her new look and Audrey-Hepburn-style bangs.

Orser has not yet had much time to work with Medvedeva as she went to him only in June, but he has already improved her double Axel. Orser is looking forward to working more with his new student, notably on skating skills and her Lutz technique.

Medvedeva looks like she is on a good path and said she feels at home in her new training environment in Toronto, but misses her mother and grandmother, as well as her dog. “This off-season was the hardest time in my life,” she said. “I had to get used to the Canadian culture, but I think I’ll never get used to it, probably because I am Russian. You lie on your bed and you want to call your grandmother to you, but she is in Moscow.”

The audience at Megasport Arena warmly welcomed Medvedeva and gave her rousing applause, which for sure was a relief for her since some people had made nasty comments about her switching coaches and moving to Canada. Apparently not everyone can deal with the fact that Medvedeva is the first top Russian skater to train abroad with a non-Russian coach. Luckily, these dissenters are in the minority.
 
Made a low quality meme for fun. (Not trying to point and laugh, sorry if it's in a bit of poor taste.) Anyway, nice posts, Mrs. P and Watch. And @luanddu, I hadn't thought of that :/ That's definitely true.

https://imgur.com/UdP5mkR
This made me laugh so much lol. I think mostly due to her face expression there :D
 
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