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Do you think that if she continues to improve on the axel she will go for the 3A? She wants to try a 4S but a 3A seems doable for an adult skater, plus she can use it on the SP too. But if she manages to have a 4S and a 3A she would be a great contender if the wonderkids retain their quads (what I doubt but who knows)

6 months ago I would have said no. But her axle is so good now that I think she could. Of course, I never bet against Zhenya. :)
 
There is so much to admire about the things that have improved- her axel!!! Is magnificent (btw the 3A is not Jason’s favorite jump but they both got the highest GOEs on it). Her body is selling the choreography even if her face is not. Her step sequence was cleaner. At least she didn’t fall on her flip this time.

I agree with this. I actually have the feeling we will see the best performance of it at Nationals. Something about being home will help, ironically.

Also her PCS stayed stable 34.90 vs 34.33 (SCI).
 
I guess this is a post for Zhenya as well as for everyone else in general. I saw her frustration at the end. I wanted to remind her of something...

I want to say one thing to make very clear. You will never lose your fans. Do you think your fans cheer for you because you can make a perfect jump? Do you think we will abandon you if you fall? If you slip? If you do not do something in perfect precision? Heck, if that was the case we'd all just be commenting on the tiny Rapunzel Tornado fanfest and her IG (nothing against her of course - just making a point to the junior quad princess's jumps). Do you think what judges or nations say or any troll or anybody says will ever in a million years change the way your fans feel about you?

We are your fans because you are you. Because YOU ARE YOU. You represent something different in the sport. Your personality, your passion, your exuberance, and how you and only you can tell a story in your skating. But, you already have us. You got it? You lassoed us in with past performances. Rise or fall or fall again and again and again, we aren't going anywhere. Ever.

In other words, you have nothing to lose. Honestly, this is a season of growth. You know it. A time to relearn and grow. Just making it to the prix final is an accomplishment. Who cares what happens after that? It's like Rocky going the distance.

Don't get so down on yourself. Don't compare yourself to others (Because those others aren't you and you have something special that no other skater can touch. It's not about perfection. It's about being you). Perform tomorrow with your heart. Feel it. Be there in the story. Not for us but for you. Express your story for the world. Express it. Who cares about the judges? Who cares about the .1 points this or that? It's not about numbers. It's about you and the ice. The ice is your canvas; paint the story for the world.

Got it? We aren't going anywhere. Where else would we go? There is only one you. But we don't want you to skate for us. We want you to skate for you. We just want a window in to see your story. Write it for us. Write it for YOU.

This is the middle of your story (the middle of a story is always the one where the hero goes through terrific struggles. Choose any movie, any anime, any novel. It is always the same. You are rising).

Now go get them, Tsarina. Show the judges, show the world, show everyone, that there is only one artist on that ice tomorrow. Only one Michaelangelo. Tell your story.

:cheer2::rock:

I just want to add: Zhenya: When I leaped to my feet and cheered after your FS at SCI, I was not cheering hard for a program that was "not so good;" I was cheering a Champion who would not stay down. I was cheering YOU! Lastremnant is right, right on all counts. :2thumbs:
 
Do you think that if she continues to improve on the axel she will go for the 3A? She wants to try a 4S but a 3A seems doable for an adult skater, plus she can use it on the SP too. But if she manages to have a 4S and a 3A she would be a great contender if the wonderkids retain their quads (what I doubt but who knows)

I think she will. I think after Worlds she's going to talk about what she wants to do next (3A or Quad or both)
 
I think she will. I think after Worlds she's going to talk about what she wants to do next (3A or Quad or both)

I think from what we’ve seen, both are in the realm of possibility. Her axel improvement is super impressive for such short time and I suspect if she continues to improve at that rate, while another revolution would be still difficult, people wouldn’t blow off the suggestion as lightly as if someone suggested 3A for her in the past seasons since her axel then was kind of iffy. For this season I want her to completely solidify her triples and continue to feel more comfortable with the new technique, training, and programs and all.
 
I think from what we’ve seen, both are in the realm of possibility. Her axel improvement is super impressive for such short time and I suspect if she continues to improve at that rate, while another revolution would be still difficult, people wouldn’t below off the suggestion as lightly as if someone suggested 3A for her in the past seasons since her axel then was kind of iffy. For this season I want her to completely solidify her triples and continue to feel more comfortable with the new technique, training, and programs and all.

Agree completely!
 
I think from what we’ve seen, both are in the realm of possibility. Her axel improvement is super impressive for such short time and I suspect if she continues to improve at that rate, while another revolution would be still difficult, people wouldn’t below off the suggestion as lightly as if someone suggested 3A for her in the past seasons since her axel then was kind of iffy. For this season I want her to completely solidify her triples and continue to feel more comfortable with the new technique, training, and programs and all.

I remember an interview (https://m.sport-express.ru/figure-s...uslozhnyatsya-budem-nad-etim-rabotat-1387527/) from earlier this year where Evgenia said that she trained Quads with Eteri and that she is able to make 4 revolutions in the jumps but hadn't managed to land them in the short amount of time they tried them out. So Evgnenia surely has the ability to do 4 rotations. Brian and Tracy just have to help her land them. With how much of a improvement her Axel has made. Trying to train a 3 Axel is worth a try. I think a 4S is the more likely outcome out of that training, but who knows what is to come.
 
No offense but I think we should hope for Zhenya to stabilize her triples, gain her confidence back and maybe add new 3-3 later. We can talk about quads when we see her being 100% comfortable with her current jump layout in actual competition not earlier. This will actually take some time, I think. Let‘s be realistic we have to focus on today, not what might be in the distant future. And for now 4S or 3A is so, so far away I literally just hope for those darn level 4s and clean jumps. And hopefully silver.
 
No offense but I think we should hope for Zhenya to stabilize her triples, gain her confidence back and maybe add new 3-3 later. We can talk about quads when we see her being 100% comfortable with her current jump layout in actual competition not earlier. This will actually take some time, I think. Let‘s be realistic we have to focus on today, not what might be in the distant future. And for now 4S or 3A is so, so far away I literally just hope for those darn level 4s and clean jumps. And hopefully silver.

I agree. Let’s worry about what’s right in front of Zhenya instead of jumping ahead.

Considering everything Evgenia’s been through over the last 12 months, I’m amazed that she’s doing so well. She needs time for the new jumping technique to become second nature.
 
No offense but I think we should hope for Zhenya to stabilize her triples, gain her confidence back and maybe add new 3-3 later. We can talk about quads when we see her being 100% comfortable with her current jump layout in actual competition not earlier. This will actually take some time, I think. Let‘s be realistic we have to focus on today, not what might be in the distant future. And for now 4S or 3A is so, so far away I literally just hope for those darn level 4s and clean jumps. And hopefully silver.

Just because people are speculating about the future does not mean they don't want all of the same things you said. It's just a different conversation. There's no need to tear eachother apart in here. We're all stressed about today, GPF, RusNats, etc. Maybe some people are coping with that by talking about something else? Nothing is stopping anyone from having different conversations. If you don't like the current one, you don't have to engage in it. Instead you can say whatever you'd like too :)
 
Just because people are speculating about the future does not mean they don't want all of the same things you said. It's just a different conversation. There's no need to tear eachother apart in here. We're all stressed about today, GPF, RusNats, etc. Maybe some people are coping with that by talking about something else? Nothing is stopping anyone from having different conversations. If you don't like the current one, you don't have to engage in it. Instead you can say whatever you'd like too :)

I wasn‘t trying to tear anyone apart at all, sorry if it came across like this, it wasn‘t my intention. It‘s okay, I understand that people want to distract themselves but I have a bit of difficulty talking about quads and 3A as if the current problems weren‘t even present. Maybe it‘s my nature but I simply can‘t look too much forward if the things that are problematic now aren‘t solved. That‘s why I said we should rather worry more about the present. But I’m of course not trying to forbid anyone to state their opinion or talk about this topic. Just saying that in my mind, it simply isn‘t realistic right now. :)
 
I wasn‘t trying to tear anyone apart at all, sorry if it came across like this, it wasn‘t my intention. It‘s okay, I understand that people want to distract themselves but I have a bit of difficulty talking about quads and 3A as if the current problems weren‘t even present. Maybe it‘s my nature but I simply can‘t look too much forward if the things that are problematic now aren‘t solved. That‘s why I said we should rather worry more about the present. But I’m of course not trying to forbid anyone to state their opinion or talk about this topic. Just saying that in my mind, it simply isn‘t realistic right now. :)

I understand your feelings and didn't mean to imply you had any bad intent. I also just hope for people to feel like they can express whatever they'd like about Zhenya in here :)

Anyway, official layout posted. I wish for her to absolutely nail the 2a3lo combo
https://pp.userapi.com/c846321/v846321373/133de2/MjuEx-9Y1LM.jpg
 
I understand your feelings and didn't mean to imply you had any bad intent. I also just hope for people to feel like they can express whatever they'd like about Zhenya in here :)

Anyway, official layout posted. I wish for her to absolutely nail the 2a3lo combo
https://pp.userapi.com/c846321/v846321373/133de2/MjuEx-9Y1LM.jpg

I think this is a pretty smart layout. Instead of putting in most the combos in the bonus zone, there's one followed by two solo which I think strategically, if she doesn't hit the flip-toeloop, there's a pretty good chance she can combo the salchow or even the loop if necessary. I hope the skating gods are willing to be on her side today, she's done so much in the recent months, I'm hoping that the end result of this competition will be one she is happy with!
 
I understand your feelings and didn't mean to imply you had any bad intent. I also just hope for people to feel like they can express whatever they'd like about Zhenya in here :)

Anyway, official layout posted. I wish for her to absolutely nail the 2a3lo combo
https://pp.userapi.com/c846321/v846321373/133de2/MjuEx-9Y1LM.jpg

Okay, everything’s good then. :)

I wish her to absolutely nail the 2A-3Lo as well and COUNT during those spins. That‘s literally all I‘m asking for. Oh, and no falls. Can you make it happen, ice monster/skating good? :laugh:
 
Guys, what do you think is the reason for doing 3F-3T instead of 3S-3T? I mean, her salchow is by far the most stable jump she has. So why risk it? I know that I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I think they're trying to leave it alone to make it even bigger in order to be able to start training a quad.
What's your opinion?
 
Guys, what do you think is the reason for doing 3F-3T instead of 3S-3T? I mean, her salchow is by far the most stable jump she has. So why risk it? I know that I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I think they're trying to leave it alone to make it even bigger in order to be able to start training a quad.
What's your opinion?

If I were to guess, doing 3F-3T has higher value than 3S-3T, and by making the Salchow solo, she can likely make it a combo if she misses the 3F-3T while if she misses a 3S-3T combo, it is unlikely that the 3F-3T is going to be better. In addition, 3F-3T is good practice since that seems to be the combo/jump that is the most inconsistent these past few competitions so I think it might be to really stabilize the combo.
 
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