Evgenia Medvedeva

[thatbeatingheart]

Moskvina gave us the reason.

About boots: I agree with Luna.



I disagree. Break in the new boots and she would be competitive. She did not mentioned that she has a problem with Edea Ice Fly before they broke.

I didn't read anything from Moskvina, what did she say?

I would consider it a problem that they broke after a mere month of use, and there must have been a problem with the Piano's, otherwise she wouldn't have switched.

Look, I'm not trying to defend RusFed's decision, I'm unhappy about it too and if they also don't name her as an alternate for Worlds I'll probably riot, but right now I'm trying to think rational and positive.

 

[Billbillbill]

I forgot about 4 Continents. If she won it, would she be the only skater who won both Europeans and 4 Continents? She should skate for Canada.

Gosh I don’t know! Probably! I think her skating life would be so much easier if she switched. I don’t think she ever would though. :/

 

[Scott512]

I forgot about 4 Continents. If she won it, would she be the only skater who won both Europeans and 4 Continents? She should skate for Canada.

And that would never happen first of all the furor it would cause would be a hundred times worse than what happened when she left eteri. Secondly Russia would not want her skating for Canada a major rival for Russia in figure skating especially where the team event is concern at the Olympics. Zhenya could help Canada win the team gold medal over Russia and I'm sure the Russian Federation is aware of that. If she wanted to leave for Armenia there is an outside chance that that could happen.

 

[Supernovaimplosion]

And that would never happen first of all the furor it would cause would be a hundred times worse than what happened when she left eteri. Secondly Russia would not want her skating for Canada a major rival for Russia in figure skating especially where the team event is concern at the Olympics. Zhenya could help Canada win the team gold medal over Russia and I'm sure the Russian Federation is aware of that. If she wanted to leave for Armenia there is an outside chance that that could happen.

Yeah the team event increases her odds of citizenship (the government can give citizenship to athletes without residency requirnments) but gives 0% chance rfed will release her

 

[Znowflake]

Gosh I don’t know! Probably! I think her skating life would be so much easier if she switched. I don’t think she ever would though. :/

I don’t think she would ever switch... I think she could have gotten 3rd this year if she skated cleanly:.. if her goal is to be OG then she has lots of time now to up her skills/jumps before next season (and in turn do well at Nats). I have a feeling we will be seeing a Quad Lutz next year... Brian had always said 18 months - 2 years and I think she really improved so far this season ie Rostelcom Cup

 

[Billbillbill]

Yeah the team event increases her odds of citizenship (the government can give citizenship to athletes without residency requirnments) but gives 0% chance rfed will release her

Ooh yeah I didn’t think about the team event.

 

[Znowflake]

https://youtu.be/IoDZn4AQxpo

Zhenya training for Quads

 

[Jeanie19]

Ooh yeah I didn’t think about the team event.

I love your new Avatar.

 

[Billbillbill]

I love your new Avatar.

Thanks!

 

[skatingfan200]

I didn't read anything from Moskvina, what did she say?

https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?51695-Evgenia-Medvedeva/page1392
See my post

 

[jennapowers]

Can someone please translate Daniil's commentary on Zhenya's ex?

 

[mdl]

I don't think she will ever even consider to change Federations, the backlash will be million times worst than the changing coaches reactions and even the "neutral" russian fans will turn against her...

In my opinion unless some force major with 3A and with Liza, there is no chance to see her at the Worlds. And now also ET says that Alina sent her sms saying that she is already missing the competitions so they might bring her back....
Unfortunately really a huge chance was missed due to the boot issue

 

[Maia96]

I don’t think she would ever switch... I think she could have gotten 3rd this year if she skated cleanly:.. if her goal is to be OG then she has lots of time now to up her skills/jumps before next season (and in turn do well at Nats). I have a feeling we will be seeing a Quad Lutz next year... Brian had always said 18 months - 2 years and I think she really improved so far this season ie Rostelcom Cup

Well a Quad Sal I think so. A Quad Lutz for Zhenya would be impossible. With correcting her Triple Lutz that would be a great achievement for not to lose points.

 

[Maia96]

And that would never happen first of all the furor it would cause would be a hundred times worse than what happened when she left eteri. Secondly Russia would not want her skating for Canada a major rival for Russia in figure skating especially where the team event is concern at the Olympics. Zhenya could help Canada win the team gold medal over Russia and I'm sure the Russian Federation is aware of that. If she wanted to leave for Armenia there is an outside chance that that could happen.

I will never understand the logic of countries that don't consider their athletes good enough to represent them but at the same time don't release them. What are they afraid of if they feel they don't need them because they are not competitive enough?

Personally I would love her to compete for Canada.

 

[Imagine]

She's not going to be skating for any country other than Russia. Period. Imo, there are two possible motivating factors keeping her in the sport post-Pyeongchang:

1. The fact that she didn't get a chance to represent her country in the Olympics. It was her dream to stand atop the podium and sing the Russian anthem. She did not get that opportunity due to some unfortunate politics, and that might be something she wants to get back. Unfortunately, it seems that this is going to happen again,

2. The fact that she is not an Olympic champion. As one of the most accomplished skaters ever, Evgenia has basically won every other important title there is to win, some multiple times. The OGM would cement that legacy.

Representing another country is not a simple decision that would make her "skating life happier." It's a complex scenario in which there may be a lot of logistical considerations, aggravating politics, and public scrutiny involved. For one, it will immediately decommission her from competition for like a year, in which all her main rivals will be forging on ahead. For the people who think she is not currently being judged/scored "fairly" (whatever that means in this sport), it will probably get much worse. And then there's all the hate/bullying she's been getting from just training in another country. Imagine how much worse it'll become for her if she were to up and ditch Russia altogether. From Evgenia's standpoint, the potential benefits of this move must outweigh all of these negatives, and it must help her move closer to one of her main goals. Obviously, it won't help her accomplish her goal of representing Russia in the Olympics, but that's a dream that has probably died at this point. Whatever, she has no control over that situation. In which case, switching countries needs to help advance her towards her goal of becoming the Olympic champion. It does not. It keeps her out of competition for a year, in which time her standing in the sport will fall. There's no way to assess how she compares to her main rivals during that time. There's no guarantee that she will even make it on the Olympic team if she moves to a country where the competition is at a high level. Canada is one of those countries. No, no, no. This is a terrible idea all around.

 

[thatbeatingheart]

https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?51695-Evgenia-Medvedeva/page1392
See my post

Ah okay, I didn't read that post properly. As I've said before, the whole situation is very odd, but I'm trying not to freak out prematurely.

 

[Good Vibes Only]

She's not going to be skating for any country other than Russia. Period. Imo, there are two possible motivating factors keeping her in the sport post-Pyeongchang:

1. The fact that she didn't get a chance to represent her country in the Olympics. It was her dream to stand atop the podium and sing the Russian anthem. She did not get that opportunity due to some unfortunate politics, and that might be something she wants to get back. Unfortunately, it seems that this is going to happen again,

2. The fact that she is not an Olympic champion. As one of the most accomplished skaters ever, Evgenia has basically won every other important title there is to win, some multiple times. The OGM would cement that legacy.

Representing another country is not a simple decision that would make her "skating life happier." It's a complex scenario in which there may be a lot of logistical considerations, aggravating politics, and public scrutiny involved. For one, it will immediately decommission her from competition for like a year, in which all her main rivals will be forging on ahead. For the people who think she is not currently being judged/scored "fairly" (whatever that means in this sport), it will probably get much worse. And then there's all the hate/bullying she's been getting from just training in another country. Imagine how much worse it'll become for her if she were to up and ditch Russia altogether. From Evgenia's standpoint, the potential benefits of this move must outweigh all of these negatives, and it must help her move closer to one of her main goals. Obviously, it won't help her accomplish her goal of representing Russia in the Olympics, but that's a dream that has probably died at this point. Whatever, she has no control over that situation. In which case, switching countries needs to help advance her towards her goal of becoming the Olympic champion. It does not. It keeps her out of competition for a year, in which time her standing in the sport will fall. There's no way to assess how she compares to her main rivals during that time. There's no guarantee that she will even make it on the Olympic team if she moves to a country where the competition is at a high level. Canada is one of those countries. No, no, no. This is a terrible idea all around.

I agree with this. Even if Zhenya changed countries and made the olympic team for that country, there is no guarantee that she would be able to beat the competitors from Russia or any other country. There is also no way to know how this change would effect her scoring. In a perfect world it shouldn’t effect scoring, however this is not a perfect world and if Russian judges are on the panel they may score her lower due to her changing countries. Also, if she changed countries many people would view it as taking “easy way out” and people would always dismiss her medal if she were to get one. Kind of like how they do with Adelina Sotnikova. Overall, I think that the negatives of changing countries would out weigh the positives.

 

[Maia96]

She's not going to be skating for any country other than Russia. Period. Imo, there are two possible motivating factors keeping her in the sport post-Pyeongchang:

1. The fact that she didn't get a chance to represent her country in the Olympics. It was her dream to stand atop the podium and sing the Russian anthem. She did not get that opportunity due to some unfortunate politics, and that might be something she wants to get back. Unfortunately, it seems that this is going to happen again,

2. The fact that she is not an Olympic champion. As one of the most accomplished skaters ever, Evgenia has basically won every other important title there is to win, some multiple times. The OGM would cement that legacy.

Representing another country is not a simple decision that would make her "skating life happier." It's a complex scenario in which there may be a lot of logistical considerations, aggravating politics, and public scrutiny involved. For one, it will immediately decommission her from competition for like a year, in which all her main rivals will be forging on ahead. For the people who think she is not currently being judged/scored "fairly" (whatever that means in this sport), it will probably get much worse. And then there's all the hate/bullying she's been getting from just training in another country. Imagine how much worse it'll become for her if she were to up and ditch Russia altogether. From Evgenia's standpoint, the potential benefits of this move must outweigh all of these negatives, and it must help her move closer to one of her main goals. Obviously, it won't help her accomplish her goal of representing Russia in the Olympics, but that's a dream that has probably died at this point. Whatever, she has no control over that situation. In which case, switching countries needs to help advance her towards her goal of becoming the Olympic champion. It does not. It keeps her out of competition for a year, in which time her standing in the sport will fall. There's no way to assess how she compares to her main rivals during that time. There's no guarantee that she will even make it on the Olympic team if she moves to a country where the competition is at a high level. Canada is one of those countries. No, no, no. This is a terrible idea all around.

I agree that the most difficult is perhaps what refers to public scrutiny, especially taking into account if when she decide to finish her sports career she wants to return to Russia and work there. Although she feels comfortable in Canada and has multiple skills in which she could develop independently of figure skating. She could also be a coach.

Regarding what it would mean to be a year away from the competitions, she competed for the last time two days ago (internationally in November). If we guide by her words she'll compete again near October then there is't much difference.

And with respect to Canada's high level in figure skating that was up to Pyongyang. After OG the most important competitors have retired and currently the field of the ladies is quite poor. They fell too much in the last Worlds and in Skate Canada they got the last three places. Actually the ladies' field was supported by Osmond. So I think she would be very welcome. Of course, Zhenya doesn't consider that option and even if she wanted RusFed, wouldn't release her. A pity because the career as an athlete should be before the country especially when the country has already ruled you out.

 

[Znowflake]

Well a Quad Sal I think so. A Quad Lutz for Zhenya would be impossible. With correcting her Triple Lutz that would be a great achievement for not to lose points.

You are right quad sal! Do you think there is any chance that she learns the triple axel? I know Hanyu has a hard time with the double but can do a triple and almost a quad axel now[emoji54]

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Zhenya arrived in Moscow! She was welcomed by fans with flowers
https://twitter.com/MedvedevaNation/status/1211386004042665985?s=19