Really nice report about Gabriella & Guillaume from french tv : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NE56ZODsQ some explanation about their feelings during the FD
Anybody to translate ?
Anybody to translate ?
Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron
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They mainly talk about wanting to forget everything else, enjoy the moment and live it, because it passes so quickly, as if the programme were just three seconds or so...so exactly what we feel, haha.
They were happy to perform at their best, as they do in training and share the experience together and with the crowd which was very warm.
They want to feel what they are trying to get the crowd to feel, transmit the messages, be present in the moment and "in the universe".
It is a moment of joy, with them doing what they love to do most in the world.
They were happy to perform at their best, as they do in training and share the experience together and with the crowd which was very warm.
They want to feel what they are trying to get the crowd to feel, transmit the messages, be present in the moment and "in the universe".
It is a moment of joy, with them doing what they love to do most in the world.
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Guillaume is starting to have a Quebecois accent !
I heard that...and now it is time to leave Canada
!!These European Championships in Ostrava were quite exciting and at the same time quite painful I must say.
The SD ended in a complete mess.
So many couples delivering their best performances and being sanctioned by getting their lowest scores of the season! How ridiculous!
So many disagreements between the russian tech specialist and his french assistant, and the italian tech controller acting as the final decision maker.
In the end, big suspicions on the levels assigned by the tech panel.
And, finally, once again, judges (well, at least some of them...) unable to see a major non compliance to the rules??? At Europeans??? With all the video tools made available for them??? Seriously.... And then international coaches pointing out this incredible failure, some federations - already pissed off by the SD results - making a claim; And all judges being summoned late in the evening to clean up that mess. What a big joke!
Given the SD farce, the general context for Gabriella and Guillaume was obviously and ostensibly very hostile. One tiny mistake, only one, the smallest possible one during the FD and Gaby and Guillaume had no chance to become European Champions in Ostrava. In any case, we all knew they would get a "season worst" score. That's why I decided to post a message warning you guys to not have big expectations.
We expected the tech controller or the tech specialist or both to be replaced ASAP given what happened during the SD. In speed skating, AFAIR, such big mistake would immediate lead to sanctions like that. In the end, nothing happened.
The FD just confirmed our fears. Once again, many disagreements between the tech specialist and his assistant, especially for the top3 couples. As I wrote in another thread, we were seated behind the tech panel so it was so easy to observe Roxane saying no with head movements to the other two and the tech controller being involved almost permanently. The rest you know. Despite a major error, level 4 was awarded to C/L twizzles! "As expected", Gabriella and Guillaume got a "season worst" score for their best FD performance of the season. LOL.
All that belongs to the past, a black page in ice dance history.
Cheat attempts are usually bound to backfire and, in the end, this 3rd European Title, in this context, is just tremendous! Same for this 114.19 FD "season worst" score! This score is so fake that it sounds magical. This year's FD was a very complex challenge for Gaby and Guillaume and it took a lot of time to bring up this program and we can see how brilliant it is now with the latest updates (music changes, increased technical level with new and difficult transitions after the lifts, contemporary and great artistic expression).
The "battle" between P/C and V/M at Worlds should be fantastic!
The SD ended in a complete mess.
So many couples delivering their best performances and being sanctioned by getting their lowest scores of the season! How ridiculous!
So many disagreements between the russian tech specialist and his french assistant, and the italian tech controller acting as the final decision maker.
In the end, big suspicions on the levels assigned by the tech panel.
And, finally, once again, judges (well, at least some of them...) unable to see a major non compliance to the rules??? At Europeans??? With all the video tools made available for them??? Seriously.... And then international coaches pointing out this incredible failure, some federations - already pissed off by the SD results - making a claim; And all judges being summoned late in the evening to clean up that mess. What a big joke!
Given the SD farce, the general context for Gabriella and Guillaume was obviously and ostensibly very hostile. One tiny mistake, only one, the smallest possible one during the FD and Gaby and Guillaume had no chance to become European Champions in Ostrava. In any case, we all knew they would get a "season worst" score. That's why I decided to post a message warning you guys to not have big expectations.
We expected the tech controller or the tech specialist or both to be replaced ASAP given what happened during the SD. In speed skating, AFAIR, such big mistake would immediate lead to sanctions like that. In the end, nothing happened.
The FD just confirmed our fears. Once again, many disagreements between the tech specialist and his assistant, especially for the top3 couples. As I wrote in another thread, we were seated behind the tech panel so it was so easy to observe Roxane saying no with head movements to the other two and the tech controller being involved almost permanently. The rest you know. Despite a major error, level 4 was awarded to C/L twizzles! "As expected", Gabriella and Guillaume got a "season worst" score for their best FD performance of the season. LOL.
All that belongs to the past, a black page in ice dance history.
Cheat attempts are usually bound to backfire and, in the end, this 3rd European Title, in this context, is just tremendous! Same for this 114.19 FD "season worst" score! This score is so fake that it sounds magical. This year's FD was a very complex challenge for Gaby and Guillaume and it took a lot of time to bring up this program and we can see how brilliant it is now with the latest updates (music changes, increased technical level with new and difficult transitions after the lifts, contemporary and great artistic expression).
The "battle" between P/C and V/M at Worlds should be fantastic!
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The main thing is that they managed to win
. The score is low but with these judges they could not hope for better (They had everything to lose, the judges would not have hesitated)Thank you for the photos and for sharing your impressions in live from Ostrava:thumbsup:
Are You going to Helsinki?
Hello Maya, I will be in Helsinki for the Worlds. Even though this season is the last one before the Olympics, this mess in Ostrava was far too much. I really expect the ice dance competition (and BTW, not only ice dance!) in Helsinki to be fair. I don't ask for more.
Still, it's amazing to see how Gaby and Guillaume managed to come out of this tough competition stronger than ever
I have not taken any decision yet regarding Olympics.
Okay, let us know in the future, please ! :agree:
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I'm not saying anything about the judging, but quick note, it actually wasn't their seasons worst score. They got 111.06 in the free at NHK. Unless you meant overall score? And they had 114.95 at GPF, so it seems within the realm of scores they've been getting at least. Which isn't to say that everything was all good at Euros or anything, but to me at least it doesn't jump out as a totally crazy score.
It will not be a disaster if they don't win worlds this year.
Few couple in ice dance were able to have 3 consecutive title.
I was afraid for this FD. I wished they skate without fault under pressure. And they did it.
I really like the changes, really, now i can say I appreciate their FD.
Their best FD this season (with a low score
).
But they absolutly need to re-work their SD and don't make some errors in Helsinki. Thus, no regret.
Few couple in ice dance were able to have 3 consecutive title.
I was afraid for this FD. I wished they skate without fault under pressure. And they did it.
I really like the changes, really, now i can say I appreciate their FD.
Their best FD this season (with a low score
).But they absolutly need to re-work their SD and don't make some errors in Helsinki. Thus, no regret.
Except that at NHK, there were two mistakes in the free and that in Marseille there was a small problem on the twizzles. They skated much better in Ostrava than in Marseille. For me, there should have been more gap between them and the Italians and the Russians
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That's shocking; thanks for sharing your insights. I am not expert enough to analyze ice dance TES, but I was very surprised by the short program results just based on my own eyes.Fortunately, Gaby and Guillaume skated like such champions they couldn't be denied the title by cheaters. The more skating changes, the more it stays the same...
Maya got my point, I just ignored the NHK FD result but you're right, let's take it into account and in such case, it's even worse...
Thinking there are only 3 points difference between the NHK FD, with a program which was still under construction plus 2 big mistakes, and the Europeans FD, with a program in its ramp up phase, at a higher technical and artistic level and perfectly performed.
What can I say?
This season, P/C was late in the preparation of the FD. The music was selected late in the season and additional delay was required to bring up the free dance given the complexity of this program. At GPF, the program was still somehow in construction phase but the work in Montreal after new year payed off. As I said, the free dance is now in its ramp up phase. They worked hard to choreograph new transitions after the lifts, the twizzles and between the various sequences of the program and the result is great from an artistic point of view and moreover from a technical point of view. There's clearly a gap in terms of technical level between the FD in Ostrava and all previous int'l competitions (Paris, NHK and Marseille).
Now that the FD structure and break down is in place, the situation is completely different. Instead of fixing current issues, they can continue moving forward to improve different aspects (technical & artistic) like they did it in 2014 and 2015. By experience, we know it's an exercise where they are definitely very good at. The same applies to the SD.
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Sure but I mean, they musn't put themselves too much pressure either.
What they have done is already exceptionnel :
win after to be 15 th and 13 th, I'm not sure we can see this kind of thing in the future and at 19 and 20 years.
+ masterpiece and they give us a new genre of ice dancing that others couple try to copy now.
About the preparation and the late I agree. They must be careful and don't take so much time to chose music etc and begin their routine very early for OG !!!
What they have done is already exceptionnel :
win after to be 15 th and 13 th, I'm not sure we can see this kind of thing in the future and at 19 and 20 years.
+ masterpiece and they give us a new genre of ice dancing that others couple try to copy now.
About the preparation and the late I agree. They must be careful and don't take so much time to chose music etc and begin their routine very early for OG !!!
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no need to worry about next fd music choice :
They already found their og music back in 2015 marie France gave an interview to passion patinage where she was talking about finding the music for the 2015-2016 season. she said we searched and we found one but we decided to keep it for the olympic. gabriella and guillaume agreed.
here:http://www.passion-patinage.com/2015/11/11/marie-france-dubreuil-et-patrice-lauzon-portrait-22/
