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Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

Hehe no problem! It's a nice interview and they all appear very natural and likeable imo.

Btw does someone have the link for the inforsport+ interview they did also with Vanessa and Morgan? (the one where they talked about the parody series they watch) Because i wanted to translate that too, i think they did a quizz on each other's teams. Should be fun.

I searched everywhere, couldn't find it :( You have to pay to watch that channel so the replay is not available to everyone.
And thank you for translating, I was short on time and could not do it... this is amazing ! :biggrin:
 
I searched everywhere, couldn't find it :( You have to pay to watch that channel so the replay is not available to everyone.
And thank you for translating, I was short on time and could not do it... this is amazing ! :biggrin:

Tried too and while doing so I stumble on this interview back after the GPF which is very interesting because finally, the interviewer knows what she's talking about and asked all the questions I would have. It might have been posted, I don't remember seeing it though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzJRNR8dKMg
 
I have to say, choosing the acronym V/M for Vanessa and Morgan threw me for a loop for a bit, haha. This interview was a lot of fun, they seemed relaxed. The two teams bounce well off of each other. Vanessa is so adorable.
 

:( i need again a translation...There are 2 videos also at Super Moscato Show twitter page https://twitter.com/Moscato_Show/status/979020065055170560 , https://twitter.com/Moscato_Show/status/979019153058222082

Also i found that Patrice Lawsons interview.It is at Russian https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20180327/1134674720.html but with google translator you will make something...
 
OMG I'm seeing them in a week. I don't speak French but I just clicked pay and did what ever was necessary, by fire and ice I was going to see them now that I (temporarily) live here! :dbana:
 
:( i need again a translation...There are 2 videos also at Super Moscato Show twitter page https://twitter.com/Moscato_Show/status/979020065055170560 , https://twitter.com/Moscato_Show/status/979019153058222082

Also i found that Patrice Lawsons interview.It is at Russian https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20180327/1134674720.html but with google translator you will make something...

I can try to translate those, but it'll be a bit rough.

First clip:

Interviewer: Exactly that, you - because obviously at the Olympics at the level of performance you were at with the Canadians Virtue and Moir it's enormous obviously. But at the bottom (in the end), do you have any regrets? Do you say simply that if the dress hadn't broken we would be Olympic Champions?
Guillaume: Well, we can't rewrite history, but yes. Honestly I think we were so ready, we'd repeated (practiced) the short program so many times. We knew that it was a little bit our weak point until now and see we proved at Worlds - I think we would have had a World Record at the Olympics if it weren't for the problem with the dress. It's the concentration, we lost it. And there (other interviewer is talking over him).
Interviewer: Exactly, on the bike carée mol (not sure what he's saying here)... liberated. *laughter*
Gabi: Uhh,
Interviewer 2: Not sure, not sure
Gabi: Liberated the judges.
Interviewer: For sure, I didn't find friction. *maybe a native French speaker could fill in this part because I missing what they're saying a bit.
Interviewer 2: But you aren't the judges!
Interviewer: Are there feelings of injustice about these Olympics?
Guillaume: Not injustice, because the mistakes in the short program, we made them. It's simply, well it's ____, it's a bit of bad luck. We lost concentration, it made us make errors, so indirectly it's that (that caused it), but for sure we made the mistakes, the technical mistakes were there. It's entirely our responsibility.
Interviewer: How long will you keep dancing together?
Guillaume: For life. *with a grin
*Everyone talks over each other. The first guy says something about the Olympics.
Gabi: Well, we lasted, so we want to last (not sure what she means).
Interviewer 2: And the next Olympics, could that be a goal for you?
Interviewer 1: That's far.
Gabi: The next one, well it's not so far away. It's in four years, four years goes by fast and we don't want to stop right now so, for the moment yes, we ____ again.
Interviewer 3: And there's no reason that you would separate? Your performances (they talk over each other again).
Gabi: No for sure, there is no reason.

Second clip:

Interviewer 1: Have you ____ (dijourer? not sure what word it is here) the Olympics? It's past, it's over?
Gabi: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well it's, see it's funny because we waited for it for so long, and it's over. It's a lot, but it passed pretty fast and life continues. We have plans, plans, so many things to do that we haven't really had time to stop and say, we went to the Olympics. It's gone on from there (or it's kept going), and it's like that. We're still motivated, still passionate, so.
Interviewer 3: *Wow he's hard to understand for me* ... And it's not an accident, the career you have.
Interviewer 1: Three world titles.
Interviewer 3: *says something else but they're talking over each other again.
Guillaume: For sure, the silver, it's not an accident.
 
I can try to translate those, but it'll be a bit rough.

First clip:

Interviewer: Exactly that, you - because obviously at the Olympics at the level of performance you were at with the Canadians Virtue and Moir it's enormous obviously. But at the bottom (in the end), do you have any regrets? Do you say simply that if the dress hadn't broken we would be Olympic Champions?
Guillaume: Well, we can't rewrite history, but yes. Honestly I think we were so ready, we'd repeated (practiced) the short program so many times. We knew that it was a little bit our weak point until now and see we proved at Worlds - I think we would have had a World Record at the Olympics if it weren't for the problem with the dress. It's the concentration, we lost it. And there (other interviewer is talking over him).
Interviewer: Exactly, on the bike carée mol (not sure what he's saying here)... liberated. *laughter*
Gabi: Uhh,
Interviewer 2: Not sure, not sure
Gabi: Liberated the judges.
Interviewer: For sure, I didn't find friction. *maybe a native French speaker could fill in this part because I missing what they're saying a bit.
Interviewer 2: But you aren't the judges!
Interviewer: Are there feelings of injustice about these Olympics?
Guillaume: Not injustice, because the mistakes in the short program, we made them. It's simply, well it's ____, it's a bit of bad luck. We lost concentration, it made us make errors, so indirectly it's that (that caused it), but for sure we made the mistakes, the technical mistakes were there. It's entirely our responsibility.
Interviewer: How long will you keep dancing together?
Guillaume: For life. *with a grin
*Everyone talks over each other. The first guy says something about the Olympics.
Gabi: Well, we lasted, so we want to last (not sure what she means).
Interviewer 2: And the next Olympics, could that be a goal for you?
Interviewer 1: That's far.
Gabi: The next one, well it's not so far away. It's in four years, four years goes by fast and we don't want to stop right now so, for the moment yes, we ____ again.
Interviewer 3: And there's no reason that you would separate? Your performances (they talk over each other again).
Gabi: No for sure, there is no reason.

Second clip:

Interviewer 1: Have you ____ (dijourer? not sure what word it is here) the Olympics? It's past, it's over?
Gabi: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well it's, see it's funny because we waited for it for so long, and it's over. It's a lot, but it passed pretty fast and life continues. We have plans, plans, so many things to do that we haven't really had time to stop and say, we went to the Olympics. It's gone on from there (or it's kept going), and it's like that. We're still motivated, still passionate, so.
Interviewer 3: *Wow he's hard to understand for me* ... And it's not an accident, the career you have.
Interviewer 1: Three world titles.
Interviewer 3: *says something else but they're talking over each other again.
Guillaume: For sure, the silver, it's not an accident.

Great work for the translation! It's never easy and takes a lot of time to re-listen, re-listen, re-listen endlessly. Thanks for the time you put in!

I try to fill in the difficult parts (the guy with his Southern accent is really not easy to understand if you're not familiar with that accent). What he says is "Est-ce que, justement, d'enlever le haut carrément, est-ce que ça ne t'aurait pas libérée?": Well, indeed, if you would have simply taken off the top, would you not have felt liberated? (Since Guillaume is saying that the fact that it might fall was the reason for losing the concentration and making mistakes.) It's obviously a joke, and Gabriella says that she's not sure if it would have liberated the judges. It's hard to make out what each is saying after that, but I gather that the interviewer is saying that it might have been a good idea (to impress the judges with some nudity), to which the other replies that he's not an ice dance judge.

The words that Guillaume says in his reply in the injustice question is "c'est le destin, quoi". It's destiny, you know.
Then the question comes how long they will go on, and the question is "Vous envisa-- vous envisagez-- vous allez durer combien de temps encore, tous les deux?" You foresee-- how much longer are you going to last, the two of you? Then they all talk together and I don't have the time right now to listen to each and see if I can split it out, but Gaby says then clearly "Bon, on durera... tant qu'on a envie de durer." We'll last... as long as we feel like lasting.

Then the next point you had a doubt is indeed very hard to hear, I think she says something like "Nous, pour l'instant, oui, on est partis pour (encore quatre ans??), it's not clear as the interviewer goes over the end of her sentence with his question about separating. We, at the moment, yes, we're off (for another 4 years).

The second clip comes in fact BEFORE the first one in the show. The word you missed is DIGÉRÉ: digested.
The Southern guy is really hard to get, also with his smokey sexy bass voice, but you got it right.

There's in fact a part before (check the link that Maya posted) where they talk about the Worlds, and whether the absence of V/M made it less of an achievement. Guillaume explains that in fact, no, the absence made them really more relaxed which was better for their performance. It was hard to keep the motivation after the Olys but the fact that there was less stress (due to the absence of V/M) made it also more enjoyable and fun to do.
Then there's a question about getting congrats from V/M which clearly didn't happen and Gaby graciously saves the situation by pointing out that they are busy with their shows.

And after the first clip, the interview continues with questions about how they now start with a clean slate to build new programs for next year. There will be new regulations, and how they start is not always the same: music is a main issue but sometimes they start with a theme or a style and then find music to go with it. The Southern guy asks if his CD's might be considered...
They are also asked how long their holidays will last, and Guillaume says "as long as possible"!
 
Excerpt from the interview of Patrice Lauzon :

« Does the notion of a world record have any significance for you?
– I generally like sports where records are fixed. We have a very specific situation, because rules are changing, elements are changing, so the world record can be quite a conditional unit. On the other hand, there is a concept of the maximum achievable result. It’s like 6.0 in the old system – you see it on the scoreboard and you understand: the program is executed at the limit of perfection. If we talk about ice dance, it seems to me that it would be very interesting to show on the scoreboard not only marks, but also indicate what percentage of the maximum it is. With respect to Papadakis and Cizernon, for example, I believe that they are able to bring the effectiveness of their performances to 98-99%. And in a free dance can get close to the maximum. This, I think, can excite the public much more than information that one or another pair has once again surpassed the world record."


This is what I meant in a recent post, I think the percentage compared to the maximum scores would be very enlightening.

For the oldest and most enthusiastic members of this thread, could you tell us the history of the theoretical maximum scores in recent seasons (see up to the 2011-2012 season)? :agree2:

  • 2017 – 2018 : SD -> 45,4+40=85,4 (?) et FD -> 64,6+60=124,6 ( ?) - Total -> 210,0
  • 2016-2017 : idem ?
  • 2015-2016 : ??
  • 2014-2015 : ??
 
Gossip. At the FD press conference P/C and H/D implied many things while laughing with each other, one including that they'll stay training all together in Montreal.
Zoueva really ? Impossible ! (And let's not spread Gossip ourselves ;))


Why is it impossible?
 
Clashing views. It's like asking MF to choreograph for the Shibs or Barbara Fusar-Poli for P/C. It's a weird match.

I agree on choreography, but if P/C put together a coaching team of Hagueneuer/Zoueva and either self-choreograph or use Dean or maybe even Nichols or Wilson, that would be a team to rival Gadbois (or even top). Plus Zoueva would be able to apply a level of finish to the choreo and give input anyhow, even though it would not be her typical style. I could see Zoueva and P/C very much communing in terms of artistic interest. T Belbin is there too, and she very much gets P/C to my mind.

Ignoring the rumour, to me it would be about P/C deciding what they want to do/achieve in the next four years and then putting together the correct team to achieve that. If Gadbois is the shoe that fits then fine, but I do think they should be exploring other options and thinking creatively about what those options could be.
 
I agree on choreography, but if P/C put together a coaching team of Hagueneuer/Zoueva and either self-choreograph or use Dean or maybe even Nichols or Wilson, that would be a team to rival Gadbois (or even top). Plus Zoueva would be able to apply a level of finish to the choreo and give input anyhow, even though it would not be her typical style. I could see Zoueva and P/C very much communing in terms of artistic interest. T Belbin is there too, and she very much gets P/C to my mind.

Why would you want that ? They are very fine in Gadbois, that would be a mistake to leave for sure. They need a stable environment and that's what they have there.
They'll get the time they need to prepare all the choreo, other choreographers, etc.
 
Why would you want that ? They are very fine in Gadbois, that would be a mistake to leave for sure. They need a stable environment and that's what they have there.
They'll get the time they need to prepare all the choreo, other choreographers, etc.

The person you are when you are 18/19 is not necessarily the person you are when you are 22/23. What works at one age, may not work at another. What may be about being developed and stylised at one point of your career might be about being bold and taking ownership at another. What may be about the people around you getting the best from you at one point, may become about you getting the best from them. Sometimes things do need to be re-negotiated and changed, and there does need to be a different power dynamic. To me, in any negotiatory process, unless there is the possibility of saying no, you really don't have any power. Even their being able to show the confidence in themselves to leave and set up a different coaching situation of their creation would be a positive, whether they leave or not. I don't want them to leave Gadbois, per se- the decision is theirs. But I do believe there should be a decision. Just maintaining the status quo without thought or recognition of what possibilities are isn't a positive step in terms of their maturation as people or as skaters.

In terms of the next quad, it would be wholly sensible to hold meetings with the Gadbois coaching teams and also outside teams too, to see what they see going forward and what they would offer, and then make a decision, and also be creative in ones ideas of what an ideal coaching situation may be and whether it is achievable.
 
Well, for now I would prefer to see them bring in outside influences like they have done this year (Dean, Cirio) rather than leave Gadbois. I'm also biased because I tend to dislike Marina style FDs and I think she requires too much creative control over her teams. The shibs are in a unique position and have more bargaining power than her teams usually get because of the rink they train in. In any case, all we have to do is follow Romain to know what will happen. I am confident at least that P/C will not be leaving him.
 
I agree on choreography, but if P/C put together a coaching team of Hagueneuer/Zoueva and either self-choreograph or use Dean or maybe even Nichols or Wilson, that would be a team to rival Gadbois (or even top). Plus Zoueva would be able to apply a level of finish to the choreo and give input anyhow, even though it would not be her typical style. I could see Zoueva and P/C very much communing in terms of artistic interest. T Belbin is there too, and she very much gets P/C to my mind.

Ignoring the rumour, to me it would be about P/C deciding what they want to do/achieve in the next four years and then putting together the correct team to achieve that. If Gadbois is the shoe that fits then fine, but I do think they should be exploring other options and thinking creatively about what those options could be.

Canton, Michigan is also no match for Montreal when it comes to quality of life.
 
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