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Don't worry, I'm very well aware of what could possibly explode. Skating gods be willing, they've seen all throughout the past oh ... 4 to 6 years at least. Written and implied. We'll see what ends up exploding in the end.
Hanyu's quad lutz prospects
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Don't worry, I'm very well aware of what could possibly explode. Skating gods be willing, they've seen all throughout the past oh ... 4 to 6 years at least. Written and implied. We'll see what ends up exploding in the end.
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Hanyu challenges quadlutz in Japan and shows himself what the probability is like.
In addition, Hanyu himself explained the situation of quadlutz himself, and at the time of the Four Continents Championships, he said that it is not practical at that time to put quadlutz into the game.
Regarding the situation such as 4A, Hanyu explains himself on a television in Japan etc.
Even during the autumn classic, Hanyu expressed "dekinakuwanai", which in Japanese is not a representation of the nuance jumping with confidence with a high probability.
If Hanyu is jumping with a high probability such as 60% from one year ago as he says, is not it good to put it not only in FP but also in SP?
Like Nathan and BoYang.
Then BV will go up.
If Hanyu is jumping with a high probability, he should do that.
My source is Hanyu's remarks and the actual situation of quadlutz try.
In addition, Hanyu himself explained the situation of quadlutz himself, and at the time of the Four Continents Championships, he said that it is not practical at that time to put quadlutz into the game.
Regarding the situation such as 4A, Hanyu explains himself on a television in Japan etc.
Even during the autumn classic, Hanyu expressed "dekinakuwanai", which in Japanese is not a representation of the nuance jumping with confidence with a high probability.
If Hanyu is jumping with a high probability such as 60% from one year ago as he says, is not it good to put it not only in FP but also in SP?
Like Nathan and BoYang.
Then BV will go up.
If Hanyu is jumping with a high probability, he should do that.
My source is Hanyu's remarks and the actual situation of quadlutz try.
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I don't think Hanyu really needs a 4Lz. His main problem of late has really been popping quads into a single. His quad jumps are either the most beautiful quad you've ever seen or a failure to launch.
If Hanyu can rotate the 4Lz fully, then yes, I can see the point on a purely numerical standpoint even if he falls. But I would be more concerned about him popping the 4S.
If Hanyu can rotate the 4Lz fully, then yes, I can see the point on a purely numerical standpoint even if he falls. But I would be more concerned about him popping the 4S.
You're acting like practice doesnt exist...you ever think that maaaybe last season he knew he couldnt land the lutz amidst difficult steps, as is his MO, also he was introducing a totally new jump-4lo. Theres this thing called the "off season" where athletes usually train really hard on different aspects and orser and hanyu have both said theyve been training the 4lz (and 4A LOL!) so with enough practice he now feels like its good enough to put in programs...anyway i dont see how you can make any judgements without ANY relevant and recent proof im still waiting to see how it turns out for him-my nails are going to be nonexistent by CoR
Also he is training the SP with the lutz he is still deciding to use either loop or lutz so....until probably GPF or maybe NHK depending on how russia goes we wont know the true final layout of the short program...in my opinion
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https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2017/10/18/0010655499.shtml
quadlutz is a high-level technique that hanyu talked about during Autumn Classic in September "It is impossible". Japan's ace, aiming for the fifth consecutive Grand Prix final, challenged quadlutz five times and there was no success. The quadloop which he avoided in autumn classic by his right knee pain was never neatly determined.
4Lz(<？)　GOEminus
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quadlutz is a high-level technique that hanyu talked about during Autumn Classic in September "It is impossible". Japan's ace, aiming for the fifth consecutive Grand Prix final, challenged quadlutz five times and there was no success. The quadloop which he avoided in autumn classic by his right knee pain was never neatly determined.
4Lz(<？)　GOEminus
1Lz
1Lz
1Lz
4Lz(<？)　FALL
Small correction to the bold part.
He said "It's not like I cannot do it." which is telling that he thinks he can do it, so not impossible. But I guess google translated that part bad?
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thats a beauty! looks as easy as his other quads :luv17:
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It is! That entry outside edge is just
short set-up, good flow, it is looking fine indeed.Different angles
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this fan cam is great ,you can see seimei opening and set up for jump well
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http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2017/10/19/kiji/20171019s00079000276000c.html
Hanyu participated in official practice at the production venue in Moscow this day. He challenged quad Rutz vigorously and succeeded cleanly with the eighth challenge.
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Hanyu participated in official practice at the production venue in Moscow this day. He challenged quad Rutz vigorously and succeeded cleanly with the eighth challenge.
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Sports can not be talked without considering the probability of implementation.
If the probability is bad, it is highly likely that the jump will not be included in the layout of the Olympic performance.
If the probability is bad, it is highly likely that the jump will not be included in the layout of the Olympic performance.
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Practice is Practice and Competition is Competition. If Yuzuru wants to include his Lutz in the Olympic program he has to start to jump it in competition now. I think it's a challenging layout, but he's certainly able to do it. Even if he pops the Lutz it's worth it, to slowly get used to it. I hope he paces himself well and gives his best performance when it really counts, and that is probably not right now at Rostelecom.
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You know what's gorgeous, apart from that outside edge? Pick and he's up.
YES! I noticed that too ... perfect launch..
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