Help with Edea width! Anyone wearing Overture 240 C or D?

[Sterc]

I'm currently on the hunt for some proper figure skates for the next season starting in September. I'd like to go with Edea Overtures and my feet measure 233 and 236 mm, my ball width is 10 cm and my ball circumference is around 23 cm. Foot shape wise, I have irregular foot type.I feel like I have wider feet than the average and I've also heard that Edeas are tipically run narrower while Jacksons go wider. The reason I want Edea is because my country's pro shop provide a wider offer line in Edea boots. Also my budget right now doesn't allow me to buy higher level boots, only the ones for singles. With Jackson, that's the Freestyle but it is already coming with a blade that I don't want, I have already decided to go with MK Pro (after having really cheap "figure skates" for my first year of skating, Axelys FS100). The real problem is that the shop doesn't offer boots in different width options, only in the standard width so I can't try on any non standard width boot. They would just say "if you have wider feet, go with Jackson" but I'd like to have the individual boot + MK Pro combo, and only the Overtures seems affordable to me that way. I guess they can send the boots for "punching out" or stuff like that, however it is not made in the pro shop because I guess they are not qualified for that, so I'm also not really sure about that. I've already decided that I'm going to try on the standard width boots in the shop, to kinda know which size would be good length wise. I first thought that 245 would be good, but I think it might be just a bit big, because I have that size on my current skates (EU 37, 240 mm insole), and by the insole foot prints, they were definitely big, yet they felt narrow at my pinky toe after I started jumping... After checking the size (which now I think is going to be 240 (EU 36), but I'm also curious about what you think, my regular shoe size is EU 37-37,5-38), I will order the skates online from an Italian webshop because they provide crazy offer lines and are much cheaper. My dilemma is, what width should I go for? I could order the D, if the C feels too narrow, but I can't try on a D actually, so in that case I could just hope that it will be good.

Anyone out there dealing with similar issues or actually using 240 C or D Edea boots and could give me their foot width measurements so I could have a reference point?

I've uploaded my foot tracings, they may not be 100% accurate, but I tried my best.
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Also, sorry for my english, I'm not a native speaker!

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

I'm currently on the hunt for some proper figure skates for the next season starting in September. I'd like to go with Edea Overtures and my feet measure 233 and 236 mm, my ball width is 10 cm and my ball circumference is around 23 cm. Foot shape wise, I have irregular foot type.I feel like I have wider feet than the average and I've also heard that Edeas are tipically run narrower while Jacksons go wider. The reason I want Edea is because my country's pro shop provide a wider offer line in Edea boots. Also my budget right now doesn't allow me to buy higher level boots, only the ones for singles. With Jackson, that's the Freestyle but it is already coming with a blade that I don't want, I have already decided to go with MK Pro (after having really cheap "figure skates" for my first year of skating, Axelys FS100). The real problem is that the shop doesn't offer boots in different width options, only in the standard width so I can't try on any non standard width boot. They would just say "if you have wider feet, go with Jackson" but I'd like to have the individual boot + MK Pro combo, and only the Overtures seems affordable to me that way. I guess they can send the boots for "punching out" or stuff like that, however it is not made in the pro shop because I guess they are not qualified for that, so I'm also not really sure about that. I've already decided that I'm going to try on the standard width boots in the shop, to kinda know which size would be good length wise. I first thought that 245 would be good, but I think it might be just a bit big, because I have that size on my current skates (EU 37, 240 mm insole), and by the insole foot prints, they were definitely big, yet they felt narrow at my pinky toe after I started jumping... After checking the size (which now I think is going to be 240 (EU 36), but I'm also curious about what you think, my regular shoe size is EU 37-37,5-38), I will order the skates online from an Italian webshop because they provide crazy offer lines and are much cheaper. My dilemma is, what width should I go for? I could order the D, if the C feels too narrow, but I can't try on a D actually, so in that case I could just hope that it will be good.

Anyone out there dealing with similar issues or actually using 240 C or D Edea boots and could give me their foot width measurements so I could have a reference point?

I've uploaded my foot tracings, they may not be 100% accurate, but I tried my best.
And also, I've attached photos of my current skates and of their insoles.

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Also, sorry for my english, I'm not a native speaker!

Hello and welcome. We need to slow down here a bit and understand better the way that skate fitting and needs works. First of all, the tracings: Did you do them yourself or are they from a shop? Secondly, those photos of your feet aren't going to help whatsoever. This chart on the other hand will; What type are you?
You cannot just pick edea b/c that shop is being difficult and won't carry anything else but that and possibly jackson. Most shops don't carry many or any wider widths in shop and if your foot isn't made for an edea shaped boot, then it's not. Jackson would be the right suggestion.
Also, the stiffness of your boot depends on your skating level. DO NOT get lower level boots if you are advanced past their stiffness level: You are asking for injury as well as it will not support your jumps or skills, you just cannot do them in a lower stiffness boot than what you really need for you. Also, IIRC, you cannot punch out Edea, b/c of how they are made. This comes down to many decisions on your part and you will more than likely have to travel somewhere that is more professional with boot fitting and has a wider range of boots and brands of boots and blades.
Where in the world are you? That will help us to suggest a good shop.


Good luck!

 

[Sterc]

Hello and welcome. We need to slow down here a bit and understand better the way that skate fitting and needs works. First of all, the tracings: Did you do them yourself or are they from a shop? Secondly, those photos of your feet aren't going to help whatsoever. This chart on the other hand will; What type are you?
You cannot just pick edea b/c that shop is being difficult and won't carry anything else but that and possibly jackson. Most shops don't carry many or any wider widths in shop and if your foot isn't made for an edea shaped boot, then it's not. Jackson would be the right suggestion.
Also, the stiffness of your boot depends on your skating level. DO NOT get lower level boots if you are advanced past their stiffness level: You are asking for injury as well as it will not support your jumps or skills, you just cannot do them in a lower stiffness boot than what you really need for you. Also, IIRC, you cannot punch out Edea, b/c of how they are made. This comes down to many decisions on your part and you will more than likely have to travel somewhere that is more professional with boot fitting and has a wider range of boots and brands of boots and blades.
Where in the world are you? That will help us to suggest a good shop.


Good luck!

Hello! Thank you for your answer!
Okay, so I'll try to answer the questions by order.
1. I did the tracings myself so I see how they might not be perfect and could be misleading.
2. By the chart you send, I'm an Egyptian foot type, so is everyone else in my family as I noticed.
3. My skating level: Well, in my country, there is no Learn to skate or anything like that so I can't say that I'm in a certain level group (all level skaters skate together just in different little groups), but I was just about to start jumping in January but I found my boot/blade inapproriate for it so I always skipped on jumps during lessons because I didn't want to risk any injury. I was learning three turns, mohawks and practicing edges, crossovers. Also I was working on the one foot spin but spinning might be the hardest for me yet (maybe because of the boots/blades). I definitely want to carry on with jumping it's just that I suspended it because of my current skates.
4. I'm a 23 year old female, my height is 163 cm, my weight is 50-52 kg.
5. I live in Hungary, and here there is only 2 shop that sell figure skating stuff, but the people in these shops don't seem proffessional to me, I don't think that they are proper "fitters". Even sharpening is a difficult thing to try and get done properly by someone.

 

[IceM]

Have you contacted the Italian shop, they could probably help you with sizing as well? Fitters have better access to manufacturer information, but you could also contact Edea directly.

My partner wears 240C Edea Ice Fly, so I'll try to help you best I can. She measures 235mm length, 98.5mm ball width, 220mm ball circumference, and 63mm heel width. According to her, the 240C fits like a glove. She has Egyptian foot type like you. So, I'd say sizewise 240 should be right for you (by the looks of those insoles you've been skating on size too big boots indeed). But you have wider feet though, and quite significantly so. And a little more volume, it seems. Going D width, the volume of the boot and the heel increases too, not just the ball. You could measure the heel width as well from that tracing, but I figured it's around 66mm from that image. As another test of sanity, you have almost the same ball and heel widths as I, and I wear size 275C (and I needed to widen the ball a little too). Sooo, you're probably at least D width then I can't speak to whether Edeas would be good for you, I'm not a professional fitter by any measure.

Anyway, if you do have access to a shop that carriers the C width, focus on the heel and the overall volume when you try them, not the ball. If the heel is not wide enough, then you need the D width. If the heel is ok, but the ball isn't, then you have to widen the ball to fit, assuming there's enough volume in the boot. Do not compensate lack of width with sizing up.


And to correct Ic3Rabbit a little here, you most definitely can punch out and otherwise mold Edeas. What you can't do is bake them in a skate oven, and this is solely because (pun intended) how the sole is made (it will melt in the oven)

If you end up getting the Edeas, you can DM me for tips on how to heat mold them yourself, if you don't have access to a shop that you trust, it's not very hard. Also, a cobbler (shoemaker) can do stuff like widen the ball for you as well.

And lastly, as to the boot hardness, you can expect those Overtures to get you through single jumps, but for doubles, you'd want the Chorus already. Feel free to ask any more questions I could help with, I wish you the best of luck!

 

[Sterc]

Have you contacted the Italian shop, they could probably help you with sizing as well? Fitters have better access to manufacturer information, but you could also contact Edea directly.

My partner wears 240C Edea Ice Fly, so I'll try to help you best I can. She measures 235mm length, 98.5mm ball width, 220mm ball circumference, and 63mm heel width. According to her, the 240C fits like a glove. She has Egyptian foot type like you. So, I'd say sizewise 240 should be right for you (by the looks of those insoles you've been skating on size too big boots indeed). But you have wider feet though, and quite significantly so. And a little more volume, it seems. Going D width, the volume of the boot and the heel increases too, not just the ball. You could measure the heel width as well from that tracing, but I figured it's around 66mm from that image. As another test of sanity, you have almost the same ball and heel widths as I, and I wear size 275C (and I needed to widen the ball a little too). Sooo, you're probably at least D width then I can't speak to whether Edeas would be good for you, I'm not a professional fitter by any measure.

Anyway, if you do have access to a shop that carriers the C width, focus on the heel and the overall volume when you try them, not the ball. If the heel is not wide enough, then you need the D width. If the heel is ok, but the ball isn't, then you have to widen the ball to fit, assuming there's enough volume in the boot. Do not compensate lack of width with sizing up.


And to correct Ic3Rabbit a little here, you most definitely can punch out and otherwise mold Edeas. What you can't do is bake them in a skate oven, and this is solely because (pun intended) how the sole is made (it will melt in the oven)

If you end up getting the Edeas, you can DM me for tips on how to heat mold them yourself, if you don't have access to a shop that you trust, it's not very hard. Also, a cobbler (shoemaker) can do stuff like widen the ball for you as well.

And lastly, as to the boot hardness, you can expect those Overtures to get you through single jumps, but for doubles, you'd want the Chorus already. Feel free to ask any more questions I could help with, I wish you the best of luck!

Thank you very much for your informative reply. Providing exact measurements helped me soo much so thank you and your partner.
I've contacted the Italian webshop but they haven't replied yet.
Yes, I thought Edeas could be punched out/in or get heat molded by a hairdryer looking thing because I heard of other people got these done for their skates.
I'll definitely visit the shop that carryes these skates in a few weeks and try the C width and decide by the feel whether they'll be a good fit or not with maybe some changes made to the boots. If they will be a definit no, then I can still go with Jackson Freestyle + not so much wanted Aspire XP blades.
Thank you so much for offering your future help in my case. I'm curious how the fitting will go and I might post an update as well!

 

[FaustinaF]

Hello and welcome!
I will try to help you, since I have Edea Overture! My misure length is: right foot 243 mm, left foot 242mm. My feet width is about 9,2 cm. They all a little flat and my ankles slide themselves a little on the inside. In fact of body build, I am more or less like you, I am 22 and 160 cm tall, and 45 kgs. My pesonal fitter suggested me to buy a 250 C, so I went with that advice. I did not try other Edea measures like B or D, but I can assure you me feet feels sooo good when I'm on the ice, I can feel them so confortable and very well enveloped. However, I can always move my toes and I don't feel pain after using the skates. I can tell you that C measure has a little narrow sole, but maybe it's just my impression because they are ok for me.
Anyway, I must suggest you to find a good fitter if you want a right and personal skate for your feet. I don't know how else I could help you with that, but it's super important you choose the right skate that fits properly for you by trying it..
I hope you will find this useful !! Please if you need I am here to help you as I can

 

[Sterc]

Hello and welcome!
I will try to help you, since I have Edea Overture! My misure length is: right foot 243 mm, left foot 242mm. My feet width is about 9,2 cm. They all a little flat and my ankles slide themselves a little on the inside. In fact of body build, I am more or less like you, I am 22 and 160 cm tall, and 45 kgs. My pesonal fitter suggested me to buy a 250 C, so I went with that advice. I did not try other Edea measures like B or D, but I can assure you me feet feels sooo good when I'm on the ice, I can feel them so confortable and very well enveloped. However, I can always move my toes and I don't feel pain after using the skates. I can tell you that C measure has a little narrow sole, but maybe it's just my impression because they are ok for me.
Anyway, I must suggest you to find a good fitter if you want a right and personal skate for your feet. I don't know how else I could help you with that, but it's super important you choose the right skate that fits properly for you by trying it..
I hope you will find this useful !! Please if you need I am here to help you as I can

Thank you very much for your help and kind words! I appreciate you shared your measurements with me. Yes I'm aware of the fact that properly fitted skates are really important for progress and feet health, this is why I'm trying to absorb as much information as I can and of course will go to try on what I can. I'm glad you've already found your right skates, I hope I will too soon!

 

[Sterc]

Hello everyone!
I'm writing this because maybe someone who is in or will be in a similar situation might find this story helpful.
Soo it's been a long time since I started this post and sorry for not sharing my experiences earlier. I went to the shop to try the C width 240 Edea back in the end of summer and at first they felt a little uncomfortable, but the fitter suggested to loosen the front laces a bit and after that the boot was a really good fit. I could no longer feel the pressure from the side and my pinky toe but my heel was secured and was not moving. It's actually interesting because I thought I would have to go up in width or widen the ball given the fact that my feet do seem wide. Also, the 240 is the perfect size length wise too!
I ended up buying the 240C Edea Overtures and I absolutely love them! They turned out to be a good fit somehow. Thank you for your help guys!