Jackson size from Risport size; inline frame size

[annetter]

Risport RF3 Pro 255 width C fits me, and I would like to know if Jackson Elle size 7 (women) is of the correct length for me (am unable to visit the shop) - I seem to remember a seller having measured me making a note about Jackson Artiste size 7 for me (I did not get to try it - elsewhere, I could not readily get my foot into a Jackson Artiste of unknown size).

From sizing tables, I got the impression I might require Jackson size 7.5 (my foot length measured to be around 9 11/16" to 9 3/4" by me; my shoe size 38.5).


From Roll-Line information, I got the impression Roll-Line Linea size 9.25 is appropriate for Risport RF3 Pro 255 (my RF3 Pro sole length 9 3/4" (now with Coronation Ace 9.5)), but elsewhere on the internet I have got the impression that Linea size 9.75 might be appropriate - might a longer frame make balancing easier (for me as a beginner).



P.S. I saw information about Jackson Atom Mirage inline frame size 9 5/8" / 246 mm (in relation to my Risport RF3 Pro 255). The frame alone seems to no longer be available from the shop currently (available with Jackson Elle). I wonder about advantages of acquiring Roll-Line Linea, with adjustable rocker (as an adult beginner).

 

[tarmac]

Risport RF3 Pro 255 width C fits me, and I would like to know if Jackson Elle size 7 (women) is of the correct length for me (am unable to visit the shop) - I seem to remember a seller having measured me making a note about Jackson Artiste size 7 for me (I did not get to try it - elsewhere, I could not readily get my foot into a Jackson Artiste of unknown size).

From sizing tables, I got the impression I might require Jackson size 7.5 (my foot length measured to be around 9 11/16" to 9 3/4" by me; my shoe size 38.5).


From Roll-Line information, I got the impression Roll-Line Linea size 9.25 is appropriate for Risport RF3 Pro 255 (my RF3 Pro sole length 9 3/4"), but elsewhere on the internet I have got the impression that Linea size 9.75 might be appropriate - might a longer frame make balancing easier (for me as a beginner).

It might sound silly but it is incredibly difficult to measure your own feet correctly for figure skates. Furthermore, different toe box shapes and amounts of padding across brands and models all influence how long a boot feels on your feet, so it's not as straight-forward to translate sizes comfortably.

(For reference, I've worn a pinchy Jackson men's 6 1/2 - the women's equivalent would be 8. Yet a men's Risport RF3 Pro 255 has the perfect length... for my big toe. My outer toes are fighting the dramatic taper of the toe box. A women's Risport Electra 260 felt too short when I tried it on, presumably due to the toe box + instep volume. The Electra 265 started out comfy but now I'm constantly sliding out of heel lock. And so on.)

Other members of this forum are well-connected and, depending on where you are in the world, may be able to direct you to a proper fitter where you can try things on and have adjustments made to the boot, if necessary.

While I wouldn't recommend it for a boot you've never tried on, if you absolutely must order online, make sure the shop has a gracious return policy and brush up on the process of assessing a skate's fit. There's been a lot posted about it in this forum, here's a great start.

As for the frame: Is the RF3 Pro sole length what you measured on the outside from heel to toe? If it is nominally the same length as the frame, the frame would probably have to be literally held up to the sole to judge whether it can be really installed with the frame fully in contact with the sole. If you've seen photos of it done before, then sure, why not.

Just to compare experiences, I have the equivalent of a 10" frame mounted to 265 Risport Electras. It is a tight fit with 1mm in the front and 1mm in the back. It works just fine. I've never tried shorter so I'm not sure if it helps with keeping balance but I feel pretty comfortable going on my back wheels during the back-to-forward two-foot turn equivalent. (I generally find that my weight is more heavily over my heels on wheels than on ice.)

... My frame length has also encouraged deep knee bends during backwards crossovers because if I don't, I clip them

However, keep in mind that if you decide to switch boot models or sizes, you might need a different frame length again. I guess figuring out if Risport boots have a comparatively short or long... "mounting length" of the available sole space might help with judging whether 9.25 or 9.75 is more future-proof. But maybe I'm overthinking/assuming here!

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

Risport RF3 Pro 255 width C fits me, and I would like to know if Jackson Elle size 7 (women) is of the correct length for me (am unable to visit the shop) - I seem to remember a seller having measured me making a note about Jackson Artiste size 7 for me (I did not get to try it - elsewhere, I could not readily get my foot into a Jackson Artiste of unknown size).

From sizing tables, I got the impression I might require Jackson size 7.5 (my foot length measured to be around 9 11/16" to 9 3/4" by me; my shoe size 38.5).


From Roll-Line information, I got the impression Roll-Line Linea size 9.25 is appropriate for Risport RF3 Pro 255 (my RF3 Pro sole length 9 3/4"), but elsewhere on the internet I have got the impression that Linea size 9.75 might be appropriate - might a longer frame make balancing easier (for me as a beginner).

Hi and welcome. You cannot measure yourself properly for skates. Also, if you skate in a Risport RF3, a Jackson Elle is definitely not going to be stiff enough for your roller set-up.

 

[annetter]

Risport RF3 Pro 255 width C fits me, and I would like to know if Jackson Elle size 7 (women) is of the correct length for me (am unable to visit the shop) - I seem to remember a seller having measured me making a note about Jackson Artiste size 7 for me (I did not get to try it - elsewhere, I could not readily get my foot into a Jackson Artiste of unknown size).

From sizing tables, I got the impression I might require Jackson size 7.5 (my foot length measured to be around 9 11/16" to 9 3/4" by me; my shoe size 38.5).


From Roll-Line information, I got the impression Roll-Line Linea size 9.25 is appropriate for Risport RF3 Pro 255 (my RF3 Pro sole length 9 3/4"), but elsewhere on the internet I have got the impression that Linea size 9.75 might be appropriate - might a longer frame make balancing easier (for me as a beginner).

Thank you for your replies!

Thank you for the information about different skate models fitting differently, and inline frame length.

I measured my RF3 Pro 255's sole length to be 9 3/4" on the outside from heel to toe (it now has Coronation Ace 9.5).

It is my impression I might not require RF3 Pro's level of stiffness, as a beginner (adult), but it has fit me without pain.

Over the telephone, a shop representative spoke about Jackson Elle 7.5 for me, rather than 7 (RF3 Pro 255 C fits me - I believe my feet are wide at the ball of the foot, and less wide in the toe area).
The representative also spoke about Roll-Line Linea 9.75 rather than 9.25 for my RF3 Pro 255 (I had got the impression sizing tables indicated 9.25).

 

[tstop4me]

I measured my 9 3/4" RF3 Pro 255 sole length on the outside from heel to toe.

The outside sole length has significance for mounting blades or frames. But it does not correlate well with proper fit for your foot; here, obviously internal dimensions are dispositive. E.g., in some boots, there is a taper from top to bottom of the outsole. And in some boots, the insole is somewhat smaller than what you would expect from traditional designs: the uppers bulge out and overhang the insole by design. Furthermore, such design details can vary even among different models by the same manufacturer. So if you can't try on a particular model boot, you need a proper fitting; especially since there are more parameters than just length and ball width for proper fit.