Japanese Nationals 2015-16 Mens SP

[Layback11]

Uhhmmm... I don't think Japanese nationals are that inflated right now? Probably some points higher than international scores would be, but far, faaaaaaar less than Russian nationals, or American and Canadian ones in the past. Yuzu would probably be around 98-100 even with a fall internationally (he scored 95+ at worlds last year with a near fall and only one quad, and now he has even more momentum). Shoma scored 86+ with a fall on an URed 4T at the GPF. No UR: 89+. No fall deduction: 90+. No negative GOE: 94+.

Don't forget that international scores are going up like crazy too

I agree! They seem very reasonable compared to, say, ladies at Russian nationals, or anything in the US .

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Who's idea was it to have Japanese and Russian Nationals at the same time?

 

[da96103]

Congrats Hanyu, Uno and Mura.

If you want to win the short programme, you need to have a short family name.

 

[Layback11]

Who's idea was it to have Japanese and Russian Nationals at the same time?

THE STRUGGLE IS REEEEAL

 

[NMURA]

MEN SP final standings

1 Yuzuru HANYU 102.63 4S fall 4T-3T 3A
2 Shoma UNO 97.94 3A 4T 3F-3T
3 Takahito MURA 93.26 4T-3T 3A 3Lz
4 Daisuke MURAKAMI 83.49 4S 3A 3Lz-2T
5 Takahiko KOZUKA 78.19 4T< 3A 3Lz-2T hand
6 Keiji TANAKA 74.19 2S 3A 3F-3T
7 Ryuju HINO 74.03 3S-3T 3A 3Lz
8 Shu NAKAMURA 69.47 3A 3Lz-3Lo 3F
9 Sei KAWAHARA 66.72 3A< 3Lo-3T 3Lz
10 Daichi MIYATA 66.61 3Lz-3T 2A 3F
11 Sota YAMAMOTO 62.92 3A fall 2T 3Lz-3T
12 Kazuki TOMONO 62.51 3A 3Lze-3T 3F
13 Eiki HATTORI 61.94 3T-3T stepout 3Lo 2A
14 Jun SUZUKI 61.82 3A 3T-2T 3Lo stepout
15 Naoki ODA 61.21
16 Hiroaki SATO 60.03 3A stepout 3F<< 3Lz-2T
17 Koshiro SHIMADA 58.41 3Lz 3S-2T 2A
18 Mitsuki SUMOTO 58.11
19 Daisuke ISOZAKI
20 Kohei YOSHINO 55.97
21 Kosuke NOZOE 54.89
22 Masato KIMURA 53.19
23 Koshin YAMADA 53.02
24 Ryuta KATADA 51.54

 

[paperhearts]

Sota looks disappointed, aww it's okay! You can always come back in the Free! <3 And anyway, you're still young.

Yuzu interview now!

 

[TheGrandSophy]

Aww, poor Sota. :sad21:

Well done to Mura!

 

[YesWay]

Double jumps are invalid in the SP

The solo jump must be triple or quad... but the axel can be a double, and double can be used to make the combo

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Regarding men? I don't think Russian nationals was that inflated actually. The scores are rather low across the board. Of course, back with Plushenko...

I think it was. Kovtun scored 93+ with a fall, and both his quads didn't have good quality either.

 

[da96103]

Sota looks disappointed, aww it's okay! You can always come back in the Free! <3 And anyway, you're still young.

Yuzu interview now!

What did Yuzu say?

 

[eta]

Brian looking not so comfortable in the background there...

 

[TheGrandSophy]

Question: Are the Japanese skaters obsessed with Spanish dances? So many tangos, flamencos and so on...

 

[Plumededragon]

I'm happy to see Mura in 3rd! But goodness, my heart is broken for poor Sota... I wasn't expecting podium for him, it's too early for him in Nationals, but still a top 6... I hope he'll have a great comeback for the FP.

 

[TheGrandSophy]

Brian looking not so comfortable in the background there...

Poor Brian having to miss turkey and all the trimmings. :sad21:

 

[firal]

I kept forgetting Sota is only 15...don't be too disappointed kid! In Junior competitions he didn't have to do the quad so I guess it's hard to incorporate; Shoma didn't get his 3A and quad until last year either!

 

[firal]

Poor Brian having to miss turkey and all the trimmings. :sad21:

 

[da96103]

Poor Brian having to miss turkey and all the trimmings. :sad21:

I think he misses Christmas every year since he took on Yuzuru.

Maybe Brian is Jewish, then he would celebrate Hanukkah.

 

[da96103]

I'm happy to see Mura in 3rd! But goodness, my heart is broken for poor Sota... I wasn't expecting podium for him, it's too early for him in Nationals, but still a top 6... I hope he'll have a great comeback for the FP.

The first fall was quite nasty. I think he landed on his left shoulder and squished his face.

 

[Plumededragon]

Or maybe Brian just had an early Xmas with his partner and family before going to Japan. Johnny did the same thing before going to Russia for Snow King 2.

 

[paperhearts]

My favorite surprise: Mura had the cleanest short! Also Shoma but some of his landings were shaky. Regardless, congrats to both for clean shorts! Well deserved 2-3.

Yuzu fell on the 4S but still delivered a stellar performance regardless. Falling on the 4S is better than falling on the 4T-3T because he can't save the combo if he does, and he skated like there wasn't a fall at all. Congrats! I know he's been under so much pressure to perform to the gold standards he set at both NHK and GPF, but I hope this comp becomes a reminder for him to take it easy... As Brian said, he's only human. To skate perfectly is great, but what we, the fans, want to see is him just skate beautifully, happily, and healthily. Afterall, we only have until 2018 to appreciate his skating competitively. I hope the fall lets him ease out the tension for the Free and deliver a performance he's satisfied with! <3

Congrats to Dice and Taka too for good performances! Dice only had a 3Lz-2T but I think he received a higher score than at SC? Am I correct? He's a lovely skater, and that 4S was a beauty! Taka too seemed to fight for his performance and it's good to see considering how his season had been going! I don't see Dice on the podium with the 10 points Mura has on him, but he could still make a case for 4CC if Yuzu and/or Shoma don't attend.

Now that I look at the list, it seems like Sota could still manage a top 10 finish if he's clean in the Free (he hasn't been clean with his current layout but if he does do it, he'd push some skaters lower with 2 4Ts and 2 3As).

Once again, congrats to the top 3! Hopefully we get a cleaner Free from the men.