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Jason Brown

Jason was giving away toys in Canada on Halloween?
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Jason and his family have a tradition of visiting the local Ronald McDonald House following major competitions and donating the plushies thrown on the ice. The pictures he posted today were taken at the Ronald McDonald House in Montreal, probably a couple of days ago.
 
Haven’t had much computer time between travel, jet lag and grandkids. But I agree with your observations Mrs, P. Jason was clearly caught between his old skating methods and the new in his short and his popped 4s, but he shook it off and skated well in the free. Not as much of the jump and spin action happened in front of us at the opposite end of the arena. We could see Brian clapping enthusiastically toward the end of the step sequence. Jason’s comment when he sat down between Brian and Lee says it all. “Baby steps.” He has internalized the concept of development and change and he will keep getting better.

The one thing that puzzled me was the level 3 spin. Not sure what happened there. Will need to watch the replay more when I have a chance.

I left SCI feeling very optimistic.
 
The one thing that puzzled me was the level 3 spin. Not sure what happened there. Will need to watch the replay more when I have a chance.

I left SCI feeling very optimistic.

I think he is short the number of rotations he needs for a level 4. He seems to be short in the catchfoot-to-layback portion of the spin. It was better than ACI -- he totally missed rotations not only to get level 3 but the dread "V" call.

Also I agree with your assessment from earlier that the FS shirt looks much more fitted and looked better on him. It's not my favorite costume ever, but it kinda made sense for me this time around. (In other words, I won't be too sad if he has a new costume at a future event. :laugh:)
 
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I know I was not here for AGES, but huge THANK YOU for all who were in Laval and wrote about it there and all who commented:thank:

I very much agree with comments on adjusting Jason's quirk/specific way of emoting/behaving into this new coaching arrangement and him being in a cross between his old style and new changes introduced. I think a lot of people tend to forget that it takes time to make things work, especially like this - Brian & Co. are not Disney fairies to induce a quad in a month or something like this and Jason is not a newbie to be taught everything from scratch which makes things more difficult to click; and there are quite few elements to this relationship: Jason's view and approach, Brian's one, Jason's body, how it accommodates changes, Jason's mind and mental attitude towards competition...I imagine it is not an easy task to synchronize and agree all these factors together.

The thing I took from watching Jason's performances at SC was paradoxally not how he interacts (or not) with Brian or if he jumped the quad/had clean performances - what I saw, especially in FS was the he accepted to give himself much needed time to work this relationship, that he accepted what came with decision/change he made going forward. I felt that he did not set a clear expectation points/results-wise for that outing, but more tried to 'synchronize' all these newly learned things with who he is as a skater and performer. And similar thought about both programs - while SP is for me Jason style but upgraded, more refined and with more sensual note to it (easier to accommodate changes), FS introduces a new, more subtle, subdued quality, side to Jason's skating and this itself poses a challenge in my opinion. Apart from quad and work on all other jumps, I think that this FS requires from Jason less exuberance of an artist/performer in him to rely on and more 'reflective' and slow-paced, understanding of substance approach - the energy, connection with the audience has to be more measured, smartly paced to this music (which is not the easiest to work with btw) to produce a quality, memorable performance even with technical mistakes. I think that Jason knows it and work on it step by step - this amount of change, novelty introduced to his work, his life, his natural approach towards skating can be quite overwhelming I imagine and try to understand, go with Jason on the same methodical pace, not jumping too far ahead, especially with season-defining conclusions.

I think that it is important to give skaters and yourself a time to reflect on the change they chose to make and how it affects them from many angles - as a person who is very afraid, insecure about any changes, bigger or smaller in my life, I command Jason for making step forward, successful or not. I command his bravery to make a change and push himself, his work into another level, not really knowing in full if it will work out well and give him success; I do believe however that he's enjoying this challenge as he still has very high level of performance ability showing through even with mistakes. We can pick up skaters' choices regarding coaching changes and psych ourselves about it, not really paying attention to the actual work and development made (counting only obvious things as new, more difficult jumps or massively improved scores) like with Jason, but also e.g. with Madison/Evan going to Montreal or Evgenia also coming to Brian; it is very important to not focus on things like 5 minute interaction in KnC, one facial expression or gesture - it does not define the relationship nor skating ability, yes - it is hard being emotionally invested with the skater, but it is healthier for us and for them I think.

Jason's FS is growing on me despite first reservation mainly due imperfections (I know it is super weird) - because I can see the progress and his approach towards it, how they change, evolve, how the program is sculpted to be owned more and more by Jason:)
 
^ Wow NNF, as usual, you articulated what exactly I was feeling way better than I did. Nice points, lady. :)
 
^ Wow NNF, as usual, you articulated what exactly I was feeling way better than I did. Nice points, lady. :)

Thanks, it means a lot to me hearing that I expressed what someone else thinks and can relate to:) :) :). But You won anyway being in Laval in person :laugh:, seeing Jason. I couldn't stop smiling yesterday seeing him with kids at hospital in moose onesee - I wish more people would be that compassionate and full of life, especially in places like hospitals...
 
Jordan Cowan of On Ice Perspectives is at TCC! He just posted a video with Jason in his IG story: https://www.instagram.com/stories/oniceperspectives/ (last slide)

Wooooo can't wait to see more videos.

I'm glad you pointed this out, I've been skipping some of On Ice Perspectives stories, because, frankly, Ice Theatre in New York, not so interested. ;) But now I 'm going to watch:biggrin:
 
I'm glad you pointed this out, I've been skipping some of On Ice Perspectives stories, because, frankly, Ice Theatre in New York, not so interested. ;) But now I 'm going to watch:biggrin:

Sounds like a quick trip before he went to the next stop of the Thank You Canada tour. But seriously, that is the highest quality vid of someone putting on music and skating to the center of the rink.
 
Really awesome recaps and analyses from those of you at the event. Thanks!

Question on the free skate: how does the music come off live? I recall expectations for the FS being high and unmet due to how subdued the music is for the first two tracks, but it really worked for me at SCI. I’m wondering how much is due to the performance being improved and how much is audio from the event, higher quality stream, etc. And I’m also curious how the softer pieces resonate in the arena.
 
Really awesome recaps and analyses from those of you at the event. Thanks!

Question on the free skate: how does the music come off live? I recall expectations for the FS being high and unmet due to how subdued the music is for the first two tracks, but it really worked for me at SCI. I’m wondering how much is due to the performance being improved and how much is audio from the event, higher quality stream, etc. And I’m also curious how the softer pieces resonate in the arena.

I think the music was much more audible in general in the arena, so the music for the FS, overall come off better here. I don't think the transitions sound as jarring in the arena either.

I just watched his ACI performance again, and I think what made it work is the rearranged jump layout (they have him doing a 3Lo before the 3A-2T-2T jumping pass) and the added choreography in between the jumps and elsewhere in the program (love that back spiral!).
 
I think the music was much more audible in general in the arena, so the music for the FS, overall come off better here. I don't think the transitions sound as jarring in the arena either.

I just watched his ACI performance again, and I think what made it work is the rearranged jump layout (they have him doing a 3Lo before the 3A-2T-2T jumping pass) and the added choreography in between the jumps and elsewhere in the program (love that back spiral!).

Thanks! Yeah, I think it’s the choreo too — something about the performance at SCI really worked for me and I saw how this could become a truly beautiful programme. [emoji7]
 
Thanks! Yeah, I think it’s the choreo too — something about the performance at SCI really worked for me and I saw how this could become a truly beautiful programme. [emoji7]

You'll also be amused that in trying to re-work the choreography, the second 3A jumping pass is actually FURTHER back in the second half. Alternative universe! It's too bad he popped it in competition, he's perfectly capable of doing it -- he did it in his FS run-through at practice (and I think he did it in the warm-up that morning, I saw a GIF of it on Twitter somewhere).
 
You'll also be amused that in trying to re-work the choreography, the second 3A jumping pass is actually FURTHER back in the second half. Alternative universe! It's too bad he popped it in competition, he's perfectly capable of doing it -- he did it in his FS run-through at practice (and I think he did it in the warm-up that morning, I saw a GIF of it on Twitter somewhere).

*sporfle* You know, I’m starting to wonder if this timeline isn’t just one giant Yuri On Ice/IRL crossover AU. [emoji23]

I’m really liking Jason’s 3A! And I’m happy to hear reports of it being much more stable — since the Axel is required in both programmes, skaters with Axel troubles worry me the most, as edge issues can be worked on, quads trained, etc., but all of that is for naught if the Axel is your Jaws moment. My pet theory is that Hanyu runs a <s>Fight</s> Axel Club in the basement of TCC.
 
*sporfle* You know, I’m starting to wonder if this timeline isn’t just one giant Yuri On Ice/IRL crossover AU. [emoji23]

I’m really liking Jason’s 3A! And I’m happy to hear reports of it being much more stable — since the Axel is required in both programmes, skaters with Axel troubles worry me the most, as edge issues can be worked on, quads trained, etc., but all of that is for naught if the Axel is your Jaws moment. My pet theory is that Hanyu runs a <s>Fight</s> Axel Club in the basement of TCC.

3A improvement by osmosis of being around Hanyu, sure! :) I love the visual of a Hanyu Fight Axel Club.

Honestly, the way the new scoring system works, getting three strong 3As over two programs goes a long way. It was amazing how many of the guys at SC had quads -- including Shoma!-- but were all over the place in 3As. The 3As is still a high-scoring element. It's a big reason Hanyu won the olympics with *only* a 4T/4S. Kolyada also has a strong 3A, which is why he scores fairly well.

I'm still mad that the ONLY attempts Jason missed with the 3A were the ones he had to do for competition. At least he got that 14+ point 3A-3T in the bag and new goals for IdF. :laugh:
 
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3A improvement by osmosis of being around Hanyu, sure! :)

Honestly, the way the new scoring system works, getting three strong 3As over two programs goes a long way. It was amazing how many of the guys at SC had quads -- including Shoma!-- but were all over the place in 3As. The 3As is still a high-scoring element. It's a big reason Hanyu won the olympics with *only* a 4T/4S. Kolyada also has a strong 3A, which is why he scores fairly well.

I'm still mad that the ONLY attempts Jason missed with the 3A were the ones he had to do for competition. At least he got that 14+ point 3A-3T in the bag and new goals for IdF. :laugh:

Yeah, when we first heard the rumour that a fall was -5 GOE, my initial thought was how rough that was going to be in the SP for the less-consistent Axel jumpers. And then Nathan and Jason suddenly got reliable 3As and I no longer have to watch through my fingers. I don’t know what’s going on at TCC, if it’s Orser or Tracy or just a confidence boost, but right now, Jason’s Axel is now a jump I expect him to land. And I have to assume that when the Axel pass is no longer filled with dread, that goes a long way for Jason. He sounds and looks more confident. In the K&C, he seemed at peace with where he is in his journey. Confidence is a good look. So is the short hair. ;)

To be honest, with raw BVs on jumps being lower and falls costing so much of that lesser BV compared to past seasons, not to mention the PCS caps, I think you have to have a stable Axel to be in the mix, at least if you want to win. The 4S... I think it has the potential to hurt Jason’s PCS, at least if it ends in a real mistake or fall, but none of the guys are going 100% clean right now, so PCS hasn’t been stratospheric yet, but it could definitely be a way to lose a medal at WC19. That being said, I’m more inclined to give Jason a year or so with TCC to grow, as results aren’t going to be instant. A more stable Axel keeps him competitive in the short, potentially in comeback position if some of the quadsters have shaky or less than clean skates, as those GOEs really change the BV and TES equations.

The free could really be something special, though. MamaMetis and I watched ACI together, and she ranted about misuse of Simon & Garfunkel (and too little HSOW). We were both excited by his free at SCI. The GP events are all shark pools for the men (save Skate America), but I could see Jason making the podium at IdF. The judges certainly don’t mind giving him the GOEs. But if IdF has pigeons co-starring with the skaters again, who knows? [emoji23]
 
I predicted him to get on the podium at SC. Clearly too soon. :laugh: For IdF I just want him to make more improvements, if he gets podium, it's kinda bonus for me at this point.

There's also the fact Kori WILL be at IdF with Laurine. Before, I wouldn't have thought twice about that, but the Phil Hersh article got me wondering. I find it kinda sad that after 20 years they don't really talk that much now. Maybe by then, things will have thawed a bit.

I'm hoping to go to 2020 Worlds, so as long as he's on THAT world team, I'm cool. :)
 
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I predicted him to get on the podium at SC. Clearly too soon. :laugh: For IdF I just want him to make more improvements, if he gets podium, it's kinda bonus for me at this point.

There's also the fact Kori WILL be at IdF with Laurine. Before, I wouldn't have thought twice about that, but the Phil Hersh article got me wondering. I find it kinda sad that after 20 years they don't really talk that much now. Maybe by then, things will have thawed a bit.

I'm hoping to go to 2020 Worlds, so as long as he's on THAT world team, I'm cool. :)

I am also a little :sad21: that it’s not rainbows and sunshine between Jason and Kori. I assume there would be disappointment, but young folks moving on is a fact of life. Maybe when and if Kori moves to Nashville, there will be more equilibrium?
(I suppose there’s a chance that JF Ballester could be Laurine’s coach in Grenoble too, although one would think IdF is a slightly more important comp than Masters de France)

I need to say, even now, in the Old Friends part of the LP, I’m still tapping my feet a little waiting for the Hazy Shade of Winter part. The cuts don’t bother me as much, and I will be forever grateful to David Wilson for using the original S&G, instead of a “hip” cover. I’m not hip:biggrin:
 
Seeing a lot of comments and support for Jason, I am sure he will reap the results he is aiming for.
And he seems to like his new environment so I think its cool.
 
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