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Jason Brown

Best news of the week, no month! Now how do I get him to come to Helsinki or Tallinn for his Sr B....
 
so cute seeing different people's reactions to seeing random Jason skating. Some just likes seeing him skate, others look for clues for new programs...me... my reaction was "damn that rink is close to me! - Better keep an eye our for randomly running into Jason"

I suddenly want to drag my better half ice skating... a lot... well a lot more than i did yesterday. That newest clip is actually the closest rink to where i live.
 
el henry said:
Has this been Twitter user clip been posted before: Jason doing the cartwheel? (Hope the link works)

https://twitter.com/Ibelieveinsam/status/722222811901603840
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:agree:

That clip is new to me and may be my favorite yet of the new ex.

Here's a few additional photos from the JasonBrownFanPage twitter account:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgW1puJUMAAS4zs.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgW4e6PW8AAr9UH.jpg

el henry said:
Liking the 70s throwback EX....
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Me too! I can't wait to see it all together instead of the bits and pieces we've seen so far.

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I just had to post this photo from Brogen Photography:

Jason and his amazing flexibility
 
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Jackie Wong has done his predictions for TCC and they can be found here!
So it basically comes down to the men - and it really basically comes down to what condition Jason Brown is in. Brown hasn't competed since the fall, and if he delivers a strong free skate, it's Team North America's Team Challenge Cup to win. So much Team!
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Aww Jackie y u need to make me even more nervous :laugh2:
 
TMC said:
Jackie Wong has done his predictions for TCC and they can be found here!


Aww Jackie y u need to make me even more nervous :laugh2:
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That's a bit weird, really: he states team Asia has the strongest men but then says everything comes down to Jason? Did I read too fast and miss something? Why Jason and not Nam, Adam, or Dennis? I mean any one of those guys is capable of skating very well or tanking.

I kind of don't like that he's putting that pressure on Jason already. From what what we saw, he looks really good, and we know he'll be thrilled to compete again, but it seems a bit unfair to expect a Nats level or WTT level performance right off the bat. We shall see, though!! :)
 
Tavi... said:
That's a bit weird, really: he states team Asia has the strongest men but then says everything comes down to Jason? Did I read too fast and miss something? Why Jason and not Nam, Adam, or Dennis? I mean any one of those guys is capable of skating very well or tanking.

I kind of don't like that he's putting that pressure on Jason already. From what what we saw, he looks really good, and we know he'll be thrilled to compete again, but it seems a bit unfair to expect a Nats level or WTT level performance right off the bat. We shall see, though!! :)
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I don't know, I didn't get the feeling that he was really putting pressure on Jason...in fact I think he may be thinking what I'm thinking, which is that Adam is pretty reliable and likely to do well, Nam is unreliable and likely to tank, and Jason is a big question mark! I think he was thinking about the SP competition, which is scored differently, when he was talking about the Asian Men :)
 
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I think it was more of a comment that Jason is the biggest variable at this competition. We know that Nam and D10 likely will not due great due to the poor season they have had. We also know that Adam, Kolyada, and Shoma will likely do well. Boyang will likely land quads and look adorable, Breznia and Veronov are slight wild cards but really Jason has the potential to beat all of them, but a less than fit Jason and a good skate from the rest could result in Jason being down near the bottom.

I don't think it was pressure it is just that we really have know idea how to predict how Jason will skate and how he will be scored. Given the loony scoring we have seen, will Jason be scored on that scale compared to his past scores? Or will he be judged more harshly for not having a quad than in the past? Given the season's scoring, I think Jason could break 100 in the SP with a single clean quad (Hanyu did it with only one quad at the Olympics... given the inflation and home soil and fluff and Jason... yes I do think a clean SP with one quad could get him over the 100 mark) but we don't know if he is even attempting a quad (I kinda think he should in the free as he was in the fall, if he wants to show he is back to shape that should likely include a quad attempt at least) and we don't know how his combinations are looking - don't think he have seen his 3F+3T yet or know anything about his 3A. A Jason with a wonky 3A, a clean lutz and a 3F+2T could get scored rather harshly compared to what we have seen.

It is not pressuring Jason to say he is just an unknown. Not only do we not know how he will skate, but we also don't know how Jason will translate to the new scoring. I mean I think a lot of even non fans of Jason would say his PCS should be noticeably higher than Boyang's, but Boyang's crept up this season due to quads... how will this be scored side by side?
 
Okay @TMC and @StitchMonkey, maybe I wrongly misinterpreted it as pressure!

I got the impression Jason isn't ready to compete the quad yet, but since I've been proving myself wrong left and right recently, perhaps I'm wrong about that, too. I am guessing that if he skates two clean quadless programs beautifully, his scores will be around what Adam just scored at Worlds and what he himself scored at WTT last season - although he's no longer the national champion, so maybe not.

And of course if he has a wonky skate, all bets are off. But the thing is, I'm really not sure how predictable the other guys are. Some of those who we assume will do well may just be tired out now.

The good thing: we'll find out in two days!
 
I seriously doubt everyone will put in an all out performance, many are already tired and arriving from a series of shows after Worlds, and it's not that this competition counts much in their own classifications. I personally think Jason, newly fit and fresh, has a big edge there!
 
Tavi... said:
Okay @TMC and @StitchMonkey, maybe I wrongly misinterpreted it as pressure!

I got the impression Jason isn't ready to compete the quad yet, but since I've been proving myself wrong left and right recently, perhaps I'm wrong about that, too. I am guessing that if he skates two clean quadless programs beautifully, his scores will be around what Adam just scored at Worlds and what he himself scored at WTT last season - although he's no longer the national champion, so maybe not.

And of course if he has a wonky skate, all bets are off. But the thing is, I'm really not sure how predictable the other guys are. Some of those who we assume will do well may just be tired out now.

The good thing: we'll find out in two days!
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I got the same impression..I'll be very surprised if he tries a quad in either programme. But two clean programmes would certainly be enough for me ��
 
TMC said:
I got the same impression..I'll be very surprised if he tries a quad in either programme. But two clean programmes would certainly be enough for me ��
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He has said he is back to training normal for a month and that includes working on both 4T and 4S. If he is training them, then i think we may see it in the free since that was the plan all along with this program. He has attempted 4Ts in competition before they were really ready before - unless that was clearly a cause of injury (in which case bloody say so... but that is another rant) I don't see much reason why he would not still be attempting the 4T as the opening jump of his free. To me back to training normally would mean attempting the 4T in the free skate... otherwise he is not back to normal. His quad was coming along nicely last season...he really should expect it to get back to at least where it is before feeling 100% back - it was far enough along I don't think he is 100% back without an attempt - he is good enough to hold that as the standard.
 
I think part of why Jackie Wong named Jason is probably because he considers him to be the deciding factor between Team North America, and Team Europe, since he says that he believes that Team Asia are out of it due to their weakness in pairs & ice dance:

"First thing to note is that the short program scores DO NOT carry over to the free skate, so the free skates is essentially a completely different competition. With the addition of dance and pairs, Asia has a severe disadvantage. Even dropping one of the two scores in pairs and in dance, the advantage for Europe and North America is so huge that the singles free skates for Team Asia will be moot."

Note: I neither agree nor disagree with him re any of his predictions - I'd have to understand the heck what was going on here first, wouldn't I?!?;)
 
LRK said:
I think part of why Jackie Wong named Jason is probably because he considers him to be the deciding factor between Team North America, and Team Europe, since he says that he believes that Team Asia are out of it due to their weakness in pairs & ice dance ...
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I've calculated what the free skate aggregate total could be if each member of the team (top 2 men/ladies + top 1 pair/dance) scored personal bests:

North America 902.17 (Chock/Bates, Wagner, Gold, Rippon, Brown, Duhamel/Radford)

Europe: 901.65 (Cappelli/Lanotte, Medvedeva, Radionova, Koylada, Voronov, Stolbova/Klimov)

Asia: 861.34 (Wang/Liu, Miyahara, Hongo, Ten, Jin, Wang/Wang)

Now they just have to go out and skate where, as we all know, anything can happen. :laugh:


Reference:
Dance: Chock/Bates (113.31), Weaver/Poje (110.18), Cappellini/Lanotte (112.07), Coomes/Buckland (104.94), Wang/Liu (86.99), Kim/Minov (86.02)

Ladies: Wagner (142.23), Gold (137.41), Daleman (128.30), Medvedeva (150.10), Radionova (139.53), Rodeghiero (109.75), Miyahara (142.43), Hongo (129.97), Tursynbaeva (121.99)

Men: Rippon (178.72), Brown (176.69), Nguyen (164.86), Kolyada (178.31), Voronov (167.04), Brezina (163.68), Ten (191.85), Jin (191.38), Uno (190.32)

Pairs: Duhamel/Radford (153.81), Scimeca/Knierim (140.35), Stolbova/Klimov (154.60), Della Monica/Guarise (126.62), Wang/Wang (118.72), Suto/Boudreau Audet (92.63)
 
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TMC said:
Wow that is SO close! 902.17 and 901.65 :laugh:
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I know, it's almost spooky... Really, anything could happen...

(Note: But what are the odds that whatever does happen, and whatever team wins, there will be people claiming that it was the only possible outcome, and only fools could ever have believed anything different?;))
 
LRK said:
I know, it's almost spooky... Really, anything could happen...

(Note: But what are the odds that whatever does happen, and whatever team wins, there will be people claiming that it was the only possible outcome, and only fools could ever have believed anything different?;))
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I'd bet my house on that! The only outcome of any figure skating competition event that can be 100% guaranteed :biggrin:
 
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