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JGP - 3 Vienna, Austria

Congratulations on Brandon Mroz for Lysaceking back from 4th and just beating out an extremely good skate from Jinlin Guan for the gold. Borodulin had to settle for the bronze, but he was much better than the other half of the final flight, despite a mistake on a jump. Schultheiss came in fourth; can't quite remember who would be fifth right now(whoever was in first after the penultimate group finished)
 
Where Rachael is ahead is her base value. It is much higher than all the other Junior girls, including Nagasu. But her GOE isn't so good, she ends up either losing points or gaining very little.

I am glad she did so well, but she's still a skater I don't particularly like. Her jumps are tiny.
 
Amazing. Rachael landed SEVEN TRIPLES in her FS, and she was the only skater I saw who skated a CLEAN FS. So of course people complain that her jumps are tiny. What else is new?
 
Where Rachael is ahead is her base value. It is much higher than all the other Junior girls, including Nagasu. But her GOE isn't so good, she ends up either losing points or gaining very little.

I am glad she did so well, but she's still a skater I don't particularly like. Her jumps are tiny.

Reports are that Nagasu is landing triple/triples in practice...So, I have no doubt if she so desired she could put them in there. However, I think that if Nagasu's clean she'll beat Flatt on the strength of her other elements. Besides Flatt doesn't have high level spins etc. It could be a fight though.
 
Congratulations on Brandon Mroz for Lysaceking back from 4th and just beating out an extremely good skate from Jinlin Guan for the gold.

Yes, Mroz was very good, while Jinlin Guan didn't have a 3A in his program (but boy his jumps seemed SO solid, although the GOEs don't really reflect that).
 
Where Rachael is ahead is her base value. It is much higher than all the other Junior girls, including Nagasu. But her GOE isn't so good, she ends up either losing points or gaining very little.
Thanks for that observation. Yes, I just looked it up, and Flatt's advantage in base values is huge.

Compared to Maira's performance at Lake Placid, the total base values for all elements was Nagasu, 52.80; Flatt, 59.36. That would seem to be almost an impossible difference to make up, unless Flatt fell or missed her triple-triple or had something downgraded.

Yet after GOEs Nagasu was only 3 points behind in TES, despite Rachael skating perfectly and Mirai having her triple Lutz downgraded to a double.

It will be interesting to see if Mirai and others will be able to catch up to Rachael's jump content. I can definitely see Rachael on the senior podium at U.S. Nationals this year.
 
Thanks for that observation. Yes, I just looked it up, and Flatt's advantage in base values is huge.

Compared to Maira's performance at Lake Placid, the total base values for all elements was Nagasu, 52.80; Flatt, 59.36. That would seem to be almost an impossible difference to make up, unless Flatt fell or missed her triple-triple or had something downgraded.

Yet after GOEs Nagasu was only 3 points behind in TES, despite Rachael skating perfectly and Mirai having her triple Lutz downgraded to a double.

It will be interesting to see if Mirai and others will be able to catch up to Rachael's jump content. I can definitely see Rachael on the senior podium at U.S. Nationals this year.

Mathman, Mirai's triple lutz was only give 2.09 base value, so if you add in the triple lutz, well Mirai becomes a lot closer to Rachel.. Then if you factor in perhaps Mirai doing a triple/tripe, which supposedly she's doing in practice. Things look well a whole lot better for Mirai there...I do think it could be close between the two of them though.
 
Mathman, Mirai's triple lutz was only give 2.09 base value, so if you add in the triple lutz, well Mirai becomes a lot closer to Rachel.. Then if you factor in perhaps Mirai doing a triple/tripe, which supposedly she's doing in practice. Things look well a whole lot better for Mirai there...I do think it could be close between the two of them though.
Oh, yes. I didn't consider that.

Actually, you could even say that Mirai has the inside track. Even with a mistake, a time deduction and no triple-triple, Mirai's total was within a couple of points of a virtually flawless Rachael.
 
That, and Mirai had a higher total score. :)
Counting the SP. But Rachael may do a triple-triple in both the SP and LP next time out.

This season is starting off with a bang! I hope the senior Grand Prix is as good!

Edited to add: Oh wait. Juniors aren't allowed to do a triple-triple in the short program, right?

I guess I will just have to be patient and see what happens.
:)
 
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Counting the SP. But Rachael may do a triple-triple in both the SP and LP next time out.

This season is starting off with a bang! I hope the senior Grand Prix is as good!

Edited to add: Oh wait. Juniors aren't allowed to do a triple-triple in the short program, right?

I guess I will just have to be patient and see what happens.
:)

I didn't see Rachel's long but I was not impressed with her short, nor was I that impressed with her at Nationals, and then I wanted to like her.

Yes, she has the triple/triples but she was really sloppy, and her skating is sooo slow.
 
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Will Kristine be eligible for a second JGP assignment (Great Britain, perhaps)?

I can understand the strategy of USFS in waiting to see how various skaters do before finalizing the roster for the later events. After all, they will want to give second assignments to skaters who did well enough in their first outing to give tham a chance to make the finals. But it must be nerve-racking to the skaters not to know for sure if they will be competing or not.
Second GPs are an interesting topic in itself. I'm wondering if the poster boy for St. Paul (Halverson) will get a second GP when it is certain that Steenberg will not. Neither did well in the results.

I also wonder if all the US eligible skaters have completed their first GP?

Joe
 
I just watched the faulty tape on youtube of Yang Chao. He is a budding lyrical skater with good flow on the ice. I see him as a future champion in the not too distant future.

Joe
 
I just watched the two Chinese youngsters' LPs. They're both quite good! Nice, solid jumps. Amazing of Chao Yang to pole-vault from 17th in SP to 5th overall. Good presentation too, just need to turn their knees out, point their toes, stretch more, and build up more speed/power...

They both look much younger than their age -- I just looked them up, they're both 18. I don't think they'll fare that well on the GP circuit next year if they move up, unfortunately. In a few more years, maybe, but probably not next year. Although maybe they'll both be late bloomers, you never know.
 
With three events down and five to go, U.S. ladies hold the top five positions in the overall standings.

http://www.isufs.org/events/jgp2007/jgpsladies.htm

Nagasu (will also skate in Croatia)
Flatt (Germany)
Chrissy Hughes (Bulgaria)
Musademba (Germany)
Alexe Gilles (Croatia).

Musademba was paired with Flatt in both of their assignments; same with Nagasu and Gilles.
 
Musademba was paired with Flatt in both of their assignments; same with Nagasu and Gilles.
Mathman, I just replied to your post in the "JGP results/point standings" thread :): http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=263578#post263578

Edited to add: Oh wait. Juniors aren't allowed to do a triple-triple in the short program, right?
Juniors ARE allowed to do a 3-3 combo in their short programs now (they just can't repeat the required solo jump which this season is the loop).
 
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