the media is probably trotting that out to pressure the necessary parties to DQ team Russia and make Team USA the gold medalists
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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the media is probably trotting that out to pressure the necessary parties to DQ team Russia and make Team USA the gold medalists
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I think she owes much more to Kamilla. That's why Kamilla interests shall take precedence over yours.
Not to mention that US also has a loooong list of athletes using peroformance-enhancing drugs (from Lance Amstrong to Marion Jones, etc...) whose actions probably affected Russian/Soviet athletes' results/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/X5Z4KOEHDZOO7A2KJR2SC6QGOY.jpg)
Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief
The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.www.reuters.com
Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says
The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.
Ahem, 2018-2019 Rusnats SP. No other skater received cheers that long and loud.
In the official ROC statement (https://olympic.ru/news/beijing-2022/ofitsialnoe-zayavlenie-okr-9/), they stress Kamilla tested negative before and after December 25. Negative results After 12/25 means nothing as they know when to stop dosing to ensure negative tests by certain time. The question is when the negative test was obtained and by whom before 12/25.
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Yaeh, we can bet - will it be a cleaner or a driver...?
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Tha't not what I meant.... I meant Eteri herself...
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Well, the US can try to prosecute a non-US citizen if they want but it likely won't work... though I think they know that. What it really does is assert pressure. Basically, the US government is signalling that they're following this story closely, protecting its athletes (even if it's just a show of force), and putting pressure on the Court of Arbitration of Sport to make a judgment swiftly and in its favor of course.Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case - USADA chief
The United States could prosecute the Russians involved in figure skater Kamila Valieva’s doping case under the American Rodchenkov Act, the head of the U.S. Anti Doping Agency (USADA), Travis Tygart, told Reuters on Friday.
Exclusive: U.S. could prosecute Russians in Valieva doping case, USADA chief says
The RADA bill was signed into U.S. law in 2020 and empowers American prosecutors to seek fines of up to $1 million and jail terms of up to 10 years, even for non-Americans, if actions have affected American athletes’ results.
I suppose if they do follow through with this sort of prosecution, it may lead to several members on the Eteri team not being able to enter the US for fear of being detained or arrested (EDIT: which also signals to the ISU that they will make things very unpleasant for them).
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The one silver lining in this is that it is looking very much like the blame will be placed on Team Tutberidze and not on Kamila.
There is a hashtag "shameTutberidze" trending on Russian twitter and over all social media platforms fans and people who have no clue about skating are lamenting Valieva and protecting her. Thank god.
Although I actually think this should go higher than Eteri. I am certain this is Federation or even State run. At the very least it is endorsed. Just look at 2014 and the big scandal that was unveiled there regarding doping in Russia. But of course the people on the really high echelons never go down. In this case Krustalny will take the hit.
But at the end of the day the thing that matters most is Kamila and that her professional life has been ruined. Even if somehow Russia can win this case and she competes, god knows if she could deliver after all this and her medal would be indefinitely disputed and discredited.
Even if she keeps skating for 10 more years, in year 9 she'll still always be remembered as the Wunderkind that achieved thanks to doping and caused a huge scandal at the Olympics. It's heartbreaking.
There is a hashtag "shameTutberidze" trending on Russian twitter and over all social media platforms fans and people who have no clue about skating are lamenting Valieva and protecting her. Thank god.
Although I actually think this should go higher than Eteri. I am certain this is Federation or even State run. At the very least it is endorsed. Just look at 2014 and the big scandal that was unveiled there regarding doping in Russia. But of course the people on the really high echelons never go down. In this case Krustalny will take the hit.
But at the end of the day the thing that matters most is Kamila and that her professional life has been ruined. Even if somehow Russia can win this case and she competes, god knows if she could deliver after all this and her medal would be indefinitely disputed and discredited.
Even if she keeps skating for 10 more years, in year 9 she'll still always be remembered as the Wunderkind that achieved thanks to doping and caused a huge scandal at the Olympics. It's heartbreaking.
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I agree. My problem is, I'd rather see pictures of the Doctor and the Coach who sent her to this doctor for these injections pictured when this scandal comes up in the press. At least in the US, when the papers and news stations mention this "Scandal" it is Kamila's picture that they show. Not a single picture of Eteri, her parents, or the doctor. Just this poor young girl with weight of the world on her shoulders. So sad.
Why? Why such bitterness?
Are you really not at all interested in how the positive test turned out? In my opinion, there is a huge difference between systematic use and accidental one-time, minor contamination. The first should be punished, the second should be forgiven (as far as I know such cases happen regularly). It's called an investigation.
Don't you want an investigation? Do you want a hammer blow? "I don't care about the true essence of things, I want her to be crushed!", right? Why?
This information just came, so apparently covid was the reasonTerrible timing, terrible...
The athlete has only one contaminated sample and the study of this sample was delayed and delayed surprisingly accurately. What an amazing coincidence.
Eteri and her cronies are not the ones that are skating. Most of those skaters have worked their whole life to get to this point in their skating careers and under their own steam. not with help of a drug…..s
Disclaimer, innocent until proven guilty..
thankfully CAS ruling doesn't.deoend on social media rumors and hearsay.I am always glad for (a)social media. Why to bother with all the investigations, testimonies, courts, when all can be solved quick by people "who actually know"
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I still remember this, so sad.
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Because even if it was the minor's idea (and I do not think it was, and indeed, I would not be surprised if she didn't even know it had been given to her, if in fact the positive test does not turn out to be erroneous), the proper response from the adults in charge of her would be "No."Thanks for the summation
I do wonder why it keeps being stressed out that "a minor cannot be accused of violating anti-doping rules"
Is that a way of saying that they can't accuse anyone so this'll end up being ignored,
or are they currently trying to figure out who they're gonna be accusing instead?
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Unless it's a fashion or cosmetics brand, company sponsorship contracts are often tied to being an 'active athlete'. In other sports, you will sometimes see women doing some pretty token amounts racing while pregnant in order to meet a sponsorship's competition requirements for a calendar year. (Which as long as a pregnancy is being carefully monitored by a doctor, regular exercise during that time is good for both mother and baby)
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I was under the impression that all medal winners had to be tested.
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