elingrace4eva said:
Sasha did a triple lutz double toe in combination as well as a triple flip double toe in combination, where as michelle did a triple flip double toe and a triple toe double toe (which is a lower scoring jump combo). Plus, Michelle doubled the lutz, where as Sasha fell, but attempted a triple lutz. And Michelle didn't even attempt the triple loop which Sasha fell on.
Sasha's jumps were harder, and, even with the fall and the touch down, didn't fall that much behind Michelle's in scoring,.
Michelle did 3lutz/2t as well. But Sasha's touch down on her one combo would get at least -1 GOE.
Sasha falled on 3loop I think? It depends if Sasha's 3Loop was fully rotated before the fall, if not it could be down graded to a 2loop then -3 GOE applied. Thus sasha would lost at least 4 points on that fall assume it was called for 3loop.
Michelle's double Lutz, with 0 GOE would lost about the same points as Sasha's falled 3Loop. But since Michelle deliberately doubled that lutz when she found she could not finish the rotation. It had good running out at the landing. She properbly would get some + GOE from that jump. And plus this Lutz was late in program after 2:00 mark? she got 10% bonus on this jump.
Sasha's repeating of flip Michelle repeating of toe give Sasha's edge on points. But the overall jump quality, Michelle's was more likely got + GOEs. And her late jump elements would make up some points on her jump contents as well.
So on jump contents they were closeer under CoP than it would under 6.0, MK might have slight edge over Sasha.
The spin all of their spin were level 1. Sasha got the prop of speed, Michelle got the prop of centering and more rotations. Sasha has the edge here.
Spiral both are level 3. And both can get some + GOE. Equal.
Footwork, both level 2 difficult, but from the way they execution, Michelle's could be called level 3. (since level 3 compare to level 2 mostly involves the Execution quality like. Whole body movment, Fast, and rapid speed variation, etc.).
The PCS scores go to Michelle. Hands down.
Regarding Kimmie.
I don't think her Tech mark has the most advantage over Sasha and Michelle like ppl blieved. Her 3A would be called 2A and the - GOE applied. That means both Sasha's and Michelle's 2A would get more points than her's. She might get more points on her triple jumps since she had one more triple over Michelle and Sasha (The falling loop counted as triple with - GOE). So Kimmie's only tech advantage over Sasha and Michelle was on jump. But her spiral, fw were all in level 1, and wouldn't get any +GOE. The spin she had I don't know, but mostly look like simple to me, I assume level 1 as well.
The PCS score would be way behind Sasha and Michelle.
And remember, the tech marks are the sum of points added together. But the PCS scores in LP there are > 1 factor applied. for example the 1 point different in LP score could end up more than 1 different in final PCS scores.
Even under CoP I would think Michelle and Sasha would still come 1st and 2nd, but Kimmie might drop down due to her SP and LP result combined. Beb would be ahead. There were some armchairs analyst on FSU gave the result out there. From the link
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20904
1. Kwan 57.0 + 106.9 = 163.9
2. Cohen 58.6 + 97.5 = 156.1
3. Liang 50.0 + 100.7 = 150.7
4. Miessner 45.9 + 95.2 = 141.1
And I agree with Piel that there is no point to use CoP judge this competetion. Had this comp been judged under CoP, both Michelel and Sasha would skate to diff program designed more CoP friendly.
A great skater is a great skater, a better skater is a better skater, a good skater is a good skater no matter what judge system is used. Only close level skaters' order would be shuffled if the diff judge system is used.
