Fixing flutz is not as easy as you think... We don't even know whether it can be done.
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Fixing flutz is not as easy as you think... We don't even know whether it can be done.
I agree. It seemed to be more like a challenge for her. Although I saw her did 3F-3T at the 2005 world junior ex, she never had it in her program since the 2006 season. But it's good that she landed it for the first time this season at the very place like GPF:agree:
I wonder if the flutz is easily fixable. Miki fixed the lip, which affected her lutz. It is also reported that mao's attempt to fix flutz affected her flip.
I wonder if it might be easier to bring Sal back. She had 3S in her program when she was younger and she was practicing 4S. So it's not that she doesn't have it.
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Oh I sure know how hard it is. Miki's jumps have been out of control ever since she decided to fix her lip. It'd be especially difficult for Mao because she doesn't have the textbook entrance into the toe pick jumps.
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Oh, you're right!!
Sorry, somehow I got confused about the deduction.
Thanks for correction
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But she had the HUGE advantage of not having to witness other skater's performances. I think it was more to Mao's advantage that she went first and her low PCS was only a slight disadvantage to that. If Mao were to have skated last or later than her competitors Yukari or Yuna, I seriously DOUBT Mao would have pulled a clean program. IMO, only Yu-na is capable of handling the pressure of skating last and keeping her first place as well as she did.
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If kimmie pulls herself back together then maybe. Wagner is consistent so far this season so maybe she can make a run (i forgot bout her). And maybe emily idk
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I think that judges still decide in their mind what the results are in this system. They either rob or inflate the skaters.
I think Mao is a talented skater but I feel sometimes her scores are a little high. Like in the short program she missed an element and was only .04 behind meissner now its either Mao was inflated or Kimmie was just bad.
And I think that Caroline has been robbed in her last couple of events because shes skated clean and her PC marks are so low.
I think Mao is a talented skater but I feel sometimes her scores are a little high. Like in the short program she missed an element and was only .04 behind meissner now its either Mao was inflated or Kimmie was just bad.
And I think that Caroline has been robbed in her last couple of events because shes skated clean and her PC marks are so low.
I don't think Yu-na necessarily handled the pressure well (she did fall!) Although she's averaging six triples in her long program, which is quite impressive...
I have always had an impression that Yuna is very strong under pressure. She looks really calm and cool both in interviews and in competitions. Also what she says in interviews strikes me as being really modest and humble. She also seems to be what to say, realistic (?), or to have common sense. She seems to me to be very mature for her age. Although I have watched only her SP and not LP, the number of mistakes she made in her SP and LP seem to be pretty decent.
Very true. But I do think she was nervous going against Mao. Lol!
As for Caroline being robbed in PCS, I don't think she was. Her skating skills aren't at the same level as the other skaters... I'm willing to bet skating right after Kostner, didn't help matters, because the judges were able to compare one of the fastest skaters with some of the best skating skills, versus Caroline who still needs a little work in that area.
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I don't think Yu-na necessarily handled the pressure well (she did fall!) Although she's averaging six triples in her long program, which is quite impressive...
Yeah, I DO kinda agree with you there although I think Yu-na handles pressure best out of all six ladies who competed today. The fact that she fell on her 3L, her weakest jump, shows that she probably felt nervous going againt Mao's high scores. I feel sort of bad for Yu-na that she didn't have a COMPLETELY clean skate this season so far. She made mistakes in ALL of her SP's (so did Mao though) and I think even her CoR LP performance was somewhat "subdued" and tentative. IMO Yu-na should not have fallen on 3L today and it would have been the best performance ever by her as all other elements of her GPF LP was so much better than her previous two (CoC and CoR) LP skates. But, since she fell on her 3L, it kinda tarnishes her otherwise beautiful program. On the other hand, I think Mao did as best as she could today and I think she'd be very happy despite her overall silver medal. I think Yu-na, despite her gold medal, would feel somewhat disappointed because of "what could have been" a perfect program.
Skaters usually do not watch other skaters' performances. First or last, does not matter.
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Do not forget that pressure is more likely put on the shoulders of a skater whose program is more difficult technically. Mao does a 3A and two 3-3 combinations and Yuna does one 3-3. Scott Hamilton once praised that Kristie Yamaguchi was a consistent skater to compared with Midori Ito during the Albertville Olympics. Kristie's program did not incrude any technically challenging element like a 3A. So obviously she felt less pressure than Midori.
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Just wondering,
Why did Asada get negative GOEs for her 3A and 3F+3T?
Two-foot landing? Under-rotation? Other subtle reasons?
BTW, congrats to Yu-Na, Mao and Kostner for a fabulous competition!!
Why did Asada get negative GOEs for her 3A and 3F+3T?
Two-foot landing? Under-rotation? Other subtle reasons?
BTW, congrats to Yu-Na, Mao and Kostner for a fabulous competition!!
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Just wondering,
Why did Asada get negative GOEs for her 3A and 3F+3T?
Two-foot landing? Under-rotation? Other subtle reasons?
BTW, congrats to Yu-Na, Mao and Kostner for a fabulous competition!!
She two footed the 3a and 3toe.
Baloney. ALL skaters feel pressure, especially at a major competition, regardless of what their technical content is. Kristi Yamaguchi didn't have a 3A, but the triple salchow was her nemesis jump, so she felt the pressure of having to do a jump that was very difficult for her and not at all consistent.
Why do you think that all the ladies except Caroline Zhang had mistakes in their SPs? They all did pretty much the same jumps, and all but one faltered. Zhang probably didn't because she was in her first major event as a Senior, and she had no reputation to uphold and therefore nothing to lose.
Mao made the most mistakes, and she wound up last after the SP. But her biggest mistake was popping the 3F, a jump that ALL the ladies did in their SP.
Maybe Mao makes more mistakes because she puts too much pressure on herself and she allows herself to become too emotionally invested in what she does on the ice. She badly wanted to beat Yu-Na---too badly, and that's what did her in, not her technical content.
Your logic is HILARIOUS to me. Keep being the comedian of this board
I think his/her logic is reasonable. If you do more difficult elements, of course the pressure is higher.
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