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Perfect post :yes:
I couldn;t agree more! I just cant think of any other skater who can interpret this heavenly song! Only Mao!
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I wish for that too!Thanks gotoschool! i always love how you construct your words when you describe beauty especially with Mao! I wish i can write as good as you!
And totally agree re: Mao's 3A. She's so tight in the air and rotates so fast that she almost vanishes and also very clean in the eye because of her pencil straight posture similar to that of Yuzuru.
Agree and his 3A as a sort of inheritance of Mao’s (he learned it from her), every time I see Yuzu's 3A, I can’t help I think of Mao’s splendid one
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I wish for that too!
Agree and his 3A as a sort of inheritance of Mao’s (he learned it from her), every time I see Yuzu's 3A, I can’t help I think of Mao’s splendid one
Thanks for the compliment yhma fan. Could you tell us how and when Yuzuru learned his triple axel from Mao? That sounds like an interesting story.
Also, that was a really nice post Franklin99 about Mao and Midori. I know Mao mentioned that she did the triple axel in the Sochi Olympics to honor Midori, who was the last lady before Mao to land one in the Olympics (on her second try late in the program after falling the first time). Gutsy!
I was wondering.... do any of you think that Patrick Chan's decision to return to competitive skating will have any influence on Mao's decision since there are many similarities between them. They have both won 3 World championships and the silver medal in the Olympics, they are both 24 years old, they both took this last season off and they skated together in The Ice and XOI (I believe). What do you think?
I don't know, it could be.. but I feel should Mao decides to come back it would be because she still has the fire in her, not because she's taking example of other skaters. I'm also pretty sure that she'll listen to people who are close to her and not just a colleague like Patrick (I could br wrong though). Besides, I feel it will be "easier" for Patrick to come back, at least he's one of ISU's darling.. he wouldn't suffer the injustice Mao had been dealing with.
Perfect post. Thank you.
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No unfortunately, I don't think Mao will be influenced by anyone other than her sister and Dad. I get a sense, that Mao is content with her career and her accomplishments. I also think, that she will not wait around for another Olympic cycle.
I hate to say this to Mao's devoted fans, but I don't think she will comeback. Her break seems very final to me.
I just want her to be happy, if she decides to come back, I'll support her all the way. If she doesn't, I would be sad for a moment, but I would wish her all the best, whichever makes her happy. My greatest wish her is to see her competing in 2018 and have her redemption like Caro last year, but I'll survive if she decides to retire
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Though I'm one of those people who thinks Midori's 3A is unmatched, your post captured something very important: That Mao's triple axel is just as significant. It proves that you don't need to be a power jumper to do triple axel. This, in ways, is even more inspiring than Midori's 3A. Midori was a once-in-a-lifetime jumping phenom that just couldn't be replicated. Mao, on the other hand, learned her triple axel out of sheer dedication. While hers didn't have Midori's height, the air position and tight rotation are exquisite.
Whether Mao comes back herself, or whether Liza and others continue the legacy for her, no one can doubt Mao's impact on the sport.
I wish for that too!
Agree and his 3A as a sort of inheritance of Mao’s (he learned it from her), every time I see Yuzu's 3A, I can’t help I think of Mao’s splendid one
Oh my gosh is that true??? How nice! Indeed I really see Yuzuru's very tight and pencil straight air position/rotation in Mao...
We have the same observation gotoschool as what I have mentioned in the Patrick chan aiming for 2018 thread, they have a lot of similarities. And aside from what you have mentioned, another similarity is that they are both special to Canadian choreographer Lori Nichol...
I could only imagine both of them winning gold in 2018 Pyeongchang!
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Oh my gosh is that true??? How nice! Indeed I really see Yuzuru's very tight and pencil straight air position/rotation in Mao...
I don't think that's completely true :think: I remember he mentioned it in an interview from when he was like 12 that he watched how she did it when he was still learning the 3A, not that he directly learned it from her though
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The fact that she's still on break is actually what worries me. She seems to be a very decisive person -- that she hasn't announced her retirement means there's still /something/ in her that wants to go back to the sport.
And to be completely honest, I don't want her to go back, even if it means having more of her lovely competitve programs... man the girl put me through so much emotional turmoil during the last quad! That, and the rules /have/ changed. The penalties for URs and edge calls are really harsh, and she's definitely not one whom they give the benefit of the doubt to. With Liza around doing an almost-flawless 3A, Mao wouldn't even have that as an edge anymore... and I'd hate to see her heartbroken because she always, always gives it all she has.
The thing is, I think she'll come back because the Ladies field right now in Japan is weak, at least for the next 2 seasons while Wakaba and Marin (and the plethora of junior Japanese girls...) are still in the junior/novice ranks. She might want to help keep 3 spots for Japan. Her competitive drive might want her to have her final title. She might want to retire with a bang and not quietly. I think there's a /lot/ of reasons why she can potentially come back. Though I agree with most of you that she's not staying for 2018.
What I do know is that I want Mao to be happy. She deserves happiness!
And to be completely honest, I don't want her to go back, even if it means having more of her lovely competitve programs... man the girl put me through so much emotional turmoil during the last quad! That, and the rules /have/ changed. The penalties for URs and edge calls are really harsh, and she's definitely not one whom they give the benefit of the doubt to. With Liza around doing an almost-flawless 3A, Mao wouldn't even have that as an edge anymore... and I'd hate to see her heartbroken because she always, always gives it all she has.
The thing is, I think she'll come back because the Ladies field right now in Japan is weak, at least for the next 2 seasons while Wakaba and Marin (and the plethora of junior Japanese girls...) are still in the junior/novice ranks. She might want to help keep 3 spots for Japan. Her competitive drive might want her to have her final title. She might want to retire with a bang and not quietly. I think there's a /lot/ of reasons why she can potentially come back. Though I agree with most of you that she's not staying for 2018.
What I do know is that I want Mao to be happy. She deserves happiness!
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Honestly I'm a little conflicted about seeing Mao make a comeback. I only want her to come back if (a) she really wants it, (b) she still has all the jumps, and (c) her choreographers give her good programs. Otherwise it'd be almost a letdown, sort of like Midori's comeback where she tried to be her own nutritionist and went nowhere before immediately retiring again. That said, I'd take a half-baked comeback Mao over most of the current top skaters, the GPF this year was the dullest one since 2011 even if the top 3 all had clean LPs.
Yes, her UR calls were bad enough (and sometimes pretty dubious)... but the edge calls could be even worse. She already rebuilt her jumps once, so I imagine if she still has any UR/edge problems, they're probably here to stay.
(BTW - it bothers me, the amount of power that now lies with the technical panel. There are often consipracy theories about the judges, but really - if you were going to fix a result, it takes far too many judges to do it. Whereas you could probably fix a result with just one corrupt member on the technical panel...)
I am hopeful about Tuktamysheva's 3A. But we have not seen it in competition, and we don't know for sure if we ever will - never mind if she can land it consistently. So it's a bit early to say whether it's going to give her an edge.
If she does though, perhaps she will lead a Russian 3A charge. I mean, all those Russian juniors seem to start out with 3Lz-3T as standard... and tano jumps. If one does it, seems like they ALL do it :-D So perhaps 3A wil become their next standard "must have" :-D
I think (and hope) she may have rediscovered her love for skating and competing, and that's what will bring her back. But yes, I think keeping spots for Japan and bridging the generation gap might be added incentives for her.
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Her current EX has fewer jumps and steps than usual, so she may have started to feel unsatisfied with the programme.
Fighter Mao is back on ice, maybe?
I would like to see her new programmes choreographed by Jeffrey Buttle or Tarasova.
(Since Jeff is currently in Japan, there is some hope. Not Lori this time, please
)It doesn't matter to me whether it is a competitive programme or EX.
I am really looking forward to her new programme!
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The edge calls literally affect one jump over both her programs, the Lutz. People are way overstating it. Although her 3Lz edge last season was severe enough to get an 'e' no question, she was getting terrible GOE on it anyway so it wasn't much of a loss (1.8 points? Who cares if she has 7 other triples). It's still the UR calls that would make or break her score.
That's what I'm hoping, too.
