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Great coverage!!!!!!
They ended up showing four men and they were superb except for Lambiel's 3axel
Lindemann looks like he needs to finish in the top 6 in either GP events to advance to the Olympics so I hope for the best of him
Johnny Weir skates with such passion and flow...............hope he land his jumps more consistently though
Plushenko...........on fire......need I say more
They ended up showing four men and they were superb except for Lambiel's 3axel
Lindemann looks like he needs to finish in the top 6 in either GP events to advance to the Olympics so I hope for the best of him
Johnny Weir skates with such passion and flow...............hope he land his jumps more consistently though
Plushenko...........on fire......need I say more
I feel Stephan Lindemann should be placed ahead of Johnny Weir. Stephan basically skated clean with a lot of power and speed. He also interpreted the music fairlly well. He has different skating style than some classical music skaters. As for Jonny, he skated a little sloppy, no quard at all, slow and could not catch up the music. Since he is still not that fit comparing with #1, #2, and #4, he just rushed through the program. The choreography is not very outstanding. No wonder in his journal he talked about he got some negative feedback from international judges.
Stephan Lambiel should get upper body strong, to get his quard and 3 axel solid. His upper body looks too skinny.
Stephan Lambiel should get upper body strong, to get his quard and 3 axel solid. His upper body looks too skinny.
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I agree with Jesslily, not so much about Weir but about Lindemann. To me, Stephan gave by far the most entertaining performance, plus he had the best music. I thought he was the only skater who actually made use of his music.
Plushenko's music just dragged on and on. It looked quite silly, IMHO, when he went into his fast footwork section while the music was still plodding away -- to me, it looked like the music and the skater were equally oblivious to each other. Ho hum.
(But Plenskenko is so much better than any of the others that he could skate to Mary Had a Little Lamb if he wanted to.)
MM
Plushenko's music just dragged on and on. It looked quite silly, IMHO, when he went into his fast footwork section while the music was still plodding away -- to me, it looked like the music and the skater were equally oblivious to each other. Ho hum.
(But Plenskenko is so much better than any of the others that he could skate to Mary Had a Little Lamb if he wanted to.)
MM
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I loved Plush's comments in the interview about how effective the surgeries were and how he feels like he is 18 again. PSYCH!!!! Mathman - I agree with you that Plush could skate to anything or nothing in the background, and somehow the way he takes the ice it would still work for him. I would still like him to get his composer to create some music to go with Plush's program. That would be much more interesting than Carmen in the background. 
DG
That would be much more interesting than Carmen in the background. DG
I hope Plush never does a Biellman or donut spin again ever. He needs those two moves like he needs two more hernias. Without them, his program looked completely organic. No strain, no stress. It just looked like Plush does this anytime there's a patch of ice around.
Plush was the Big Wheel Monster Truck of the men's SP.
Rgirl
Plush was the Big Wheel Monster Truck of the men's SP.
Rgirl
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Plush was tremendous!!! He skated to the music and not to the audience. I loved every second of Tosca.
Lambiel has a beautiful musical routine and his staying with the character of the music was brilliant. Every step had a spanish flare to it throughout. Yes, the 3A is a problem.
Weir was fine. He's not giving anything special but a good skate. His lyricism is there and pick your choice between Weir, Buttle and Lambiel on that count. they are musical skaters as compared with he-man skaters.
Joe
Lambiel has a beautiful musical routine and his staying with the character of the music was brilliant. Every step had a spanish flare to it throughout. Yes, the 3A is a problem.
Weir was fine. He's not giving anything special but a good skate. His lyricism is there and pick your choice between Weir, Buttle and Lambiel on that count. they are musical skaters as compared with he-man skaters.
Joe
jesslily said:
I see no reason why Lindemann should be placed ahead of Weir.
Johnny did 3A, 3Z3T and 3F (hand down, -2 GOE). Technically, Johnny got +1.00 GOE on both the 3A and the combo, and +GOE (some judges gave him +2s) on all his spins and footwork so that his program worth 34.9 increased to 37.6 points. All of his PCS marks were in the mid 7s for a total of 37.55
Lindemann didn't do a quad. He did 3F3T, 3A and 3Z (-0.8 GOE), so he wasn't clean. He got only +0.6GOE on his combination and the 3A, and he got minimal +GOE on his spins and footwork. His 34.5 point program wound up at 35.4. His PCS scores were mostly in the mid-6s for a total of 33.25.
At the time of CoR, Johnny's ankle had healed some, but not completely, so if he seemed a little sloppy and slow, that was why. But he is still far more musical than Stefan and technically more precise. I don't see a problem in the choreography of his SP. He got almost a full point higher than Stefan in that component.
If Johnny seemed surprised at his high mark, it is because he has very high standards for his performances and he was upset about the 3F. IMO, his high mark was well deserved.
I think you just don't like Johnny Weir, jesslily.
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I love Weir, and I still think Lindemann deserved comparable component scores to Weir. His edges are among the top for men, and I disagree that he is less musical than Weir. He's not a lyrical skater, but he has a very fine, precise rhythmic sense, and uses speed changes and reverse directions quite effectively. He's like the percussion section in a jazz band.
