Replay Lounge 2026 Olympics | Men

[el henry]

I'll agree to disagree. There are no drawbacks to courtesy and empathy.

Agreed, and I have seen almost no kicking of Ilia while he is down here. Shaidorov's skating skills need a lot of improvement and his choreo needs improvement too, but that is not hating, that is just stating neutrally and without unnecessary adjectives, my opinion. On this forum I have seen almost nothing but respect and happiness for Shaidorov for his Olympic win, except from a (very) few one note posters. He was the rightful OGM and good for him.

Knowing you feel this way, I expect you to show the same courtesy and empathy to Jason Brown at Worlds.

 

[lariko]

Agreed, and I have seen almost no kicking of Ilia while he is down here. Shaidorov's skating skills need a lot of improvement and his choreo needs improvement too, but that is not hating, that is just stating neutrally and without unnecessary adjectives, my opinion. On this forum I have seen almost nothing but respect and happiness for Shaidorov for his Olympic win, except from a (very) few one note posters. He was the rightful OGM and good for him.

Knowing you feel this way, I expect you to show the same courtesy and empathy to Jason Brown at Worlds.

I simply do not watch him when he is in competitions. This way I do not have an opinion to express, positive or negative.

 

[el henry]

I simply do not watch him when he is in competitions. This way I do not have an opinion to express, positive or negative.

I think that is a good approach, truly and no snark intended.

 

[Mathman]

This sort of statement is giving argument against its base...

Um... yes. And?

I guess it is the mathematician in me. To me, "X=X" is a pretty convincing statement. If you win an Olympic Gold Medal then you are an Olympic Gold Medalist.

It doesn't mean that you are Usain Bolt of course.

 

[gsk8]

I was so sad that Vladimir Litvintsev didn't make the FS. I really wanted to see his free skate. But he said he would be at Worlds if everything goes ok with his visa.

 

[Arigato]

If you win an Olympic medal, then you are an Olympic medalist. If you participate in the Olympics, then you are an Olympian.

Danny O'Shea (@dannyoshea213) - Instagram
36K followers · 2.8K+ following · 260 posts · @dannyoshea213: “Team KamO 2026 Olympic Team Gold Medalist with @elliekam.


In case anyone is interested in what AI had to say:

Listing a team medal in skating versus an individual championship medal involves
recognizing the difference between a team-based, multi-discipline event and a single-discipline title. While team medals are legitimate Olympic accolades, they are generally viewed in the skating community as having different prestige and context than winning an individual "champion" title.
Key Differences in Skating Medals

• Definition of Success: A team medal (e.g., Olympic Team Event) represents a country's combined performance across four disciplines (men’s, women’s, pairs, ice dance). A "champion" medal refers to winning one of those four individual events (e.g., Olympic Women's Singles Champion).
• Significance: Team medals are often seen as less prestigious than individual medals because they can sometimes be achieved without having to compete against the absolute best in every single discipline. Individual titles are considered the ultimate, singular goal for singles and pair skaters.
• Medal Legitimacy: Team event medals are real Olympic medals. They are awarded to all skaters who participated in any segment of the competition.
• The "Double" Medal Scenario: A skater can win both a team medal and an individual medal in the same Olympics. Team medals were first awarded in 2014, allowing skaters to potentially medal in both categories.
• Strategy and Impact: Team events often occur before individual events, meaning top skaters might save their energy for the individual event. This can sometimes lead to a "weakened" team field compared to the individual competition.

How to List/Value Them

• Individual Champion Medal: Usually listed first (e.g., "2026 Olympic Gold Medalist, Individual Women's Singles").
• Team Medal: Usually listed with the context of the team (e.g., "2026 Olympic Gold Medalist, Team Event").
• Perceived Value: While both are technically the same, individual gold is almost always considered higher, as it signifies being the best in the world in that specific discipline for that cycle.

And last but by no means least:

Mikhail Shaidorov

Kazakhstan Figure Skater
Olympic Champion
World Medalist


Zero ambiguity.

 

[Mathman]

Danny O'Shea (@dannyoshea213) - Instagram
36K followers · 2.8K+ following · 260 posts · @dannyoshea213: “Team KamO 2026 Olympic Team Gold Medalist with @elliekam.

Now that's class. Danny gives credit to his partner, right up front.

It's like when they take their bows after a performance. He steps back and points in admiration to her.

As for AI's take on the subject, at the only thing that this technology can do is repeat back what it has encountered in perusing the internet. Actua;ly, I feel sorry for the infant internet. It is being abused. When it becomes sentient it will be insane, not knowing any way to distinguish truth from lies or even understanding that there is a difference.

 

[DancingCactus]

Can we stop inserting f**king AI "takes" on subjects into this forum? If you want to use it for math, go ahead, but let's not pretend LLMs have anything of value to add to a discussion between humans about what amounts to differences of opinion and interpretation.

 

[DizzyFrenchie]

Now that's class. Danny gives credit to his partner, right up front.

It like when they take their bows after a performance. He steps back and points in admiration to her.

As for AI's take on the subject, at the only thing that this technology can do is repeat back what it has encountered in perusing the internet. Actua;ly, I feel sorry for the infant internet. It is being abused. When it becomes sentient it will be insane, not knowing any way to distinguish truth from lies or even understanding that there is a difference.

Indeed there's much more to say on the subject, but it's out of topic; I wouldn't want to tell things thoroughly before all teams are at home, yet would appreciate if nobody would gaslight/bully/censure mere truths.

 

[Arigato]

Now that's class. Danny gives credit to his partner, right up front.

If only others cared as much about credit as Danny does.

 

[reneerose]

Can we stop inserting f**king AI "takes" on subjects into this forum? If you want to use it for math, go ahead, but let's not pretend LLMs have anything of value to add to a discussion between humans about what amounts to differences of opinion and interpretation.

Maybe the moderators need to ban AI "takes" posts in this forum? Just an idea. They take so much room and sometimes contain errors.

 

[Mathman]

Maybe the moderators need to ban AI "takes" posts in this forum? Just an idea. They take so much room and sometimes contain errors.

The problem is that the ISU itself keeps inserting AI into the conversation of how they might improve the sport and especially the judging. So I guess we need to keep abreast of developments.

 

[lariko]

Right, let's ban objective analysis of numbers that puts large protocols in plain language and show how some judges operate. AI might make a small mistake here and there, because it is specifically not an emotional fan, and points things out clearly. The impartiality is one thing figure skating needs the most. Transparent results, fair assessments without the predetermined strategy to make someone win and someone lose. Judges should know they will be under this scrutiny, and that it will be easier and easier to detect wrongdoing.

 

[reneerose]

The problem is that the ISU itself keeps inserting AI into the conversation of how they might improve the sport and especially the judging. So I guess we need to keep abreast of developments.

Seriously? Oh no...

 

[Mathman]

If only others cared as much about credit as Danny does.

That's quite true, but I look at it this way. It's not my job to rank skaters on the "classiness" scale.

 

[Arigato]

That's quite true, but I look at it this way. It's not my job to rank skaters on the "classiness" scale.

It's not my job either. But you're the only one who has used the word "class" and now "classiness" in two separate posts. Why? I have no clue. Have some coffee. Maybe that will help. I am.

 

[Mathman]

Seriously? Oh no...

Well, yes and no. The ISU in its announcements seems to apply the term "artificial intelligence" to include all uses of technology .-- even such benign things as having more cameras (co-ordinated by computerized networks), sensing and measuring devices for determining degrees of rotation, speed, etc.

 

[Mathman]

It's not my job either. But you're the only one who has used the word "class" and now "classiness" in two separate posts.

It is my job to observe and call attention to high class acts, like Danny O'Shea's gentlemanly demeanor toward his partner(s).

It is not my job to criticize those who fall short.

 

[Arigato]

It is my job to observe and call attention to high class acts, like Danny O'Shea's gentlemanly demeanor toward his partner(s).

It is not my job to criticize those who fall short.

The word "job" isn't applicable here. But you are more than welcome to post an opinion. As am I.

 

[Arigato]

Can we stop inserting f**king AI "takes" on subjects into this forum? If you want to use it for math, go ahead, but let's not pretend LLMs have anything of value to add to a discussion between humans about what amounts to differences of opinion and interpretation.

Let's not pretend AI can't have anything of value to add. Unless of course the goal is to create an echo chamber. For the record, I would choose adding AI to a post over adding an F-bomb to a post. But that's me.