Many ppl thought that. But many didn't.
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Why? Evan is nicely seating there to take it if he bring it. In fact, I am not sure why all this uproar. The top 5 skaters are virtually tied. And it should be great FS.
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Thought Chan deserved higher. His choreography is so much more difficult throughout and before the jumps. Brian and Evan did skate with more fire and did the quad but seems the judges haven't really been very consistent. Either give a bigger reward for a quad and stick with that or give the reward for everything between the jumps as well. I thought he should have been rewarded more considering how the judges have judged throughout the year. Anyway felt abit sorry for Abbot but there were alot of very good performances.
Patrick only got 36.95 in PCS and Evan and Brian over 38. Its not right.
Patrick only got 36.95 in PCS and Evan and Brian over 38. Its not right.
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But the point margin is not insurmountable. And he's in the final flight! He was in worse situation when he was 16th after SP at Worlds 2007 and under heavy pressure to place top 10 (to get 3 spots).
As long as he doesn't collide with the boards again or pop a jump because of being too close to them, he has great chance to climb up in the standings. :agree:
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Who should have been the REAL top 3?
I would say Kozuka/Chan in 1st and 2nd in either order, and Verner or Lysacek in third.
I would say Kozuka/Chan in 1st and 2nd in either order, and Verner or Lysacek in third.
But it's not the quad that matters..
Patrick's TES is higher than Evan's, and only 0.40 behind Joubert, much less than a quad.
It's the PCS. And I really don't get that. Transition and Choreography? When did the the hip thrust begin to count?
Agreed. It's embarrassing to watch in addition to that. His dance moves are about as smooth as Elaine Benes'.
So, according to your "logic", we're suppose to conclude that when you say "Fall, fall, fall", you are just kidding, because you really think that the skater is great. Wow!! If you can understand yourself, bravo, 'cause no one that is of sound mind would get that. Regardless, enjoy the Worlds like you want!
But then aren't you sorry for him? Judges hurt him in this way. It is not his fault.
This time he was either underscored or Joubert vastly overscored. Period.
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What I don't get with the PCS is
Kozuka GPF - high PCS, what was it, 38?
Here about the same performance - just 35, or 80 overall.
Chan 4CC - really really high PCS, overall 88
Here about the same performance, perhaps a little bit tighter - PCS 37 and 82 points?
The judges were actually consistent with Joubert, he got these marks for the SP all season long.
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Oh please let us not start thinking the US will be favored because the World's are in LA.
We had enough of that in the Four Continents thread. It got unsportsmanlike and ugly. I never thought I would see post like I saw then on Golden Skate.
Let us keep an open mind and look forward to the Long Program. We all want our favorites to win but let's not yell favoritism until the competition is over. The skaters job is to skate and the judges to judge the skaters cannot control the marks the judges give them. They may like like them but a true champion bites the bullet and accepts them.
jfdw
Oh please let us not start thinking the US will be favored because the World's are in LA.
We had enough of that in the Four Continents thread. It got unsportsmanlike and ugly. I never thought I would see post like I saw then on Golden Skate.
Let us keep an open mind and look forward to the Long Program. We all want our favorites to win but let's not yell favoritism until the competition is over. The skaters job is to skate and the judges to judge the skaters cannot control the marks the judges give them. They may like like them but a true champion bites the bullet and accepts them.
jfdw
I would have put Verner in first, even with the step out of the 3A. I would have had Evan around 8th. Brian around 5th.
Thank god there were no Russians involved in this part of competition. Otherwise we would see Scott and Sandra screaming non-stop and this board talking about Eastern Blocks. God, some fans are just pathetic.
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no, not a bit. His score is over 82! That's not low, that's pretty good without a quad. Plus he hasn't learned to relate to audience yet. Joubert and Evan are much better at that.
I agree. I also think that explains Evan's PCS.
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Siberia, don't leave mad, come on GROUP HUG!!!!!
Even if judges appreciate Joubert's charisma, then reward him in Execution part of PCS. But the rest??? If Patrick was a bit more 'careful' today, take away some points from EXecution.. Still, the other components were much better, so overall he should have won over Joubert. It is sad that judges do not get the PCS at all!!!!
