thrusting or humping. I do believe when it comes to this level athletic competition, elements should matter more than artistry and choreography (those are always in an eye of beholder). Choreo should only be taken as tie-breaker. Now throw your stones.
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Nobody seems to 'get' PCS. They are too subjective and too often misused.It is sad that judges do not get the PCS at all!!!!
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You tell them Oxade21, technical merit should always count for more than choreography!!!
See my post above. If they relate to the audience better (just a bit, IMO, Chan simply relates to the audience in a more subtle way than fist pumping), then reward them with execution. That's all. No other program components should be higher than Chan's. But they are.
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But only if the tech is clean! That was actually my point all the time, that a clean Joubert deserves more points than a clean Chan, because Joubert does Quads. And the scores before the competition seemed to say that Joubert clean with Quad would not win over Chan clean. But Joubert wasn't clean here!
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Yeah real funny. Tell that to all the ladies while you're at it. If that was the case, people wouldn't have been ragging on a 15 year Mao.
Transitions is a portion of it's own as is basic skating. I would not count that as choreography. Transition and basics can theoretically be seen as technique, ya knows.
Not upset at you, just amazed by some fans who always find the way to blame someone or something.
Yeah, I guess a wonky 4-3 combination is worth MUCH more than any of Chan's technical merit :sheesh:
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Except the judges should have been judging on what was done and how it was done, "masculine" or "effeminate" styles aside.
What are those merits? Have you seen protocols?
You can't score 90 points on simply amazing transitions and cleanly landed triple jumps while other competitor go out and attempts something more challenging. I am sure Chan gets his due in transitions as he always does. Bu it is only one element of many. And we shall wait for protocols before screamed robbed.
i loved kozuka and verner!!!the best of the night for me!!
The start to Verner's program? Just try to do that. Ouch. Also, while his footwork might have looked easy, the one foot swizzles are very difficult, and it is very easy to take a header with one misstep. I just assumed he would fly into first place, I was shocked that Brian and Evan stayed first and second. I don't get it at all.
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Maybe most of the judges today were females and they all has crush on Joubert?
Brian Joubert was acting really weird after his performance (skating around the rink before bowing, little to no reaction to marks). I thought maybe he was upset about his wonky 4-3, but his marks were pretty huge (too huge, imho). Any ideas about what was up?
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Chan scored lower than Joubert on all of the PCS sections. I guess running across the ice, humping the air, standing on the spot, and arm pumping equates into transitions and choreoography.
