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Mikhail Kolyada
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Needs more work in general, not just on the jumps, to make it come together. But Misha did say the SP was harder for him artistically, and it's only September. Compared to last season... well, compared to last season at least he is allowed a new SP, but apart from that... he is definitely in better shape which he mentions himself in this short interview. The planned layout is pretty much what he skated in St. Petersburg. He also says that he did a treatment course for his back and it doesn't bother him for now. But quads are obviously not the best thing for one's health, and they can be mentally draining too.
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20170909/1125467628.html
http://tass.ru/sport/4548717
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Wow that step sequence. Lambiel obviously wasn't interested in making Misha's life easier.
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Watched both programs and read as many comments as I could (here and in Russian) – such polar opinions on Mika’s programs 
SP – oh, dear, my joy about Mozart was short-lived. It will take all my loyalty as Mika’s fan to watch it during the season without a major heartache – I cannot believe that Lambiel approved this atrocity committed on one of the most beautiful poignant pieces of music ever composed – 23rd Piano Concerto. Why is tango, why? If they wanted Mika to do a lyrical piece – you could find tons of other + unused music. Why to bring memories of how Caro won Worlds and P/C won Worlds (and pretty much everything else) skating to this masterpiece (without sordid tango attached). Liza’s attempt (with tango) last season was pitiful and met with a lot of criticism. Do they [team Mika] not read/hear any feedback at all?… I hope only that Wolfgang Amadeus while spinning in his grave will not send some revengeful vibes..
Okay, now to a LP, not many seem to like it but I do. I think the program itself fits Mika like a glove he is clearly in his element and once jumps work it will be great. I hate Elvis but it suits Mika perfectly and that’s all I could wish for him, in fact I voiced an opinion more than once that a Javi type of program will be good for Mika – I got my wish – slightly too literally but oh well. I like the lines of his costume – not too keen on a colour or shape of that lilac piece but that’s ok, huge improvement on his previous costumes IMHO.
Jumps wise the LP was a bit painful to watch but lets not panic just yet. I secretly hope that very soon the common sense will prevail and a layout will be changed for something more realistic. I read in the comments section that Mika was not in great mood before the LP and had an animated discussion with Valentina and seemed very upset, that fall on the lutz looked very painful, he hardly got up - I so hope he is alright
Hard to believe but Mens short is already next Thursday! Edit: at Nepela's
SP – oh, dear, my joy about Mozart was short-lived. It will take all my loyalty as Mika’s fan to watch it during the season without a major heartache – I cannot believe that Lambiel approved this atrocity committed on one of the most beautiful poignant pieces of music ever composed – 23rd Piano Concerto. Why is tango, why? If they wanted Mika to do a lyrical piece – you could find tons of other + unused music. Why to bring memories of how Caro won Worlds and P/C won Worlds (and pretty much everything else) skating to this masterpiece (without sordid tango attached). Liza’s attempt (with tango) last season was pitiful and met with a lot of criticism. Do they [team Mika] not read/hear any feedback at all?… I hope only that Wolfgang Amadeus while spinning in his grave will not send some revengeful vibes..
Okay, now to a LP, not many seem to like it but I do. I think the program itself fits Mika like a glove he is clearly in his element and once jumps work it will be great. I hate Elvis but it suits Mika perfectly and that’s all I could wish for him, in fact I voiced an opinion more than once that a Javi type of program will be good for Mika – I got my wish – slightly too literally but oh well. I like the lines of his costume – not too keen on a colour or shape of that lilac piece but that’s ok, huge improvement on his previous costumes IMHO.
Jumps wise the LP was a bit painful to watch but lets not panic just yet. I secretly hope that very soon the common sense will prevail and a layout will be changed for something more realistic. I read in the comments section that Mika was not in great mood before the LP and had an animated discussion with Valentina and seemed very upset, that fall on the lutz looked very painful, he hardly got up - I so hope he is alright
Hard to believe but Mens short is already next Thursday! Edit: at Nepela's
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I think both programs are good for him. Ultimately, we all want something, but I don't know how he would fare doing what we want, and with these two programs I can see Misha doing well in the future competitions. Of course now it's too soon to worry about the jumps and everything else in between. I just feel like each season Misha always is a step behind his goals, or at least the past two seasons, he always go almost there with the jumps. Let's hope he can do everything this time.
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But are these really his goals? His season 2015/16 was a success because there was no pressure from the Fed. His tech was in line with his abilities. Last season he was trying to 'jump' over his head doing what was expected of him but not what was really achievable. Same story is this season I am afraid. I am not saying that he shouldn't have tried to up his content but in the past it took a couple seasons for the top skaters to master & incorporate a new quad, now with a quad race everyone is in a hurry but the trouble some skaters can do it (the quality is dubious though) and some like Mika just need more time and less pressure...
I am sick of skaters and their teams announcing the number of quads - Mika - 5, Aliev - 6 etc
Please get it done first and talk then. Mika didn't land 4lz once in competition but expected to add yet another quad -sal, Aliev hardly can get through a SP, never mind 4min of the long with 4 (!) quads. I am worried a bit but lets hope Mika's team learnt from mistakes of the last season...
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Yeah, I can't say if those goals are set either by him or the coaching team or the Fed. But we do have to agree that if he wants to stay competitive, even inside Russia, he has to go for those quads. Maybe not all of them right now, but he can't possibly have only one quad toe in each program. I do believe he has the goods, and hope he'll solve the problem in the delivery of them.
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I have to say I am not as bothered by the tango as some, it's just I am not entirely sure why it's there :scratch3: I also think the LP needs to be skated in a different mood to be appreciated. It had a definite "going through the motions" feel even before the jumps started falling apart. I don't know what exactly was up, but he looked slow, especially compared to the usual Misha. It's not a program that works when skated that way (same as Yuzuru's SP last season, you mostly just wanted it to be over already when he was in that state).
I think if Misha just plain can't manage those quads in the LP they will change the layout, e.g. reduce three to two for now, or do 4Lz and two quad toes. But it is clear he can't just stick with a couple of quads per two programs even if he wanted to - and I don't think he does, he's made it quite clear he wants to move forward. He is also capable of skating that layout in practice - practice is not the same as competition of course. Also he didn't pop axels when he skated this program without quads at the junior text skates, so it's likely not a problem with axels per se. It's also interesting that he can rotate 4Lz even from a slow entry, last season he had to pick up so much speed he practically had to be given a ticket
Now, announcing quads might be related to external expectations. The idea is that the skaters have to tell the Fed what it is they are planning to do in the season, and if they tell the Fed they might as well tell the world in general. Although you could say the merits of the latter are debatable.
I think if Misha just plain can't manage those quads in the LP they will change the layout, e.g. reduce three to two for now, or do 4Lz and two quad toes. But it is clear he can't just stick with a couple of quads per two programs even if he wanted to - and I don't think he does, he's made it quite clear he wants to move forward. He is also capable of skating that layout in practice - practice is not the same as competition of course. Also he didn't pop axels when he skated this program without quads at the junior text skates, so it's likely not a problem with axels per se. It's also interesting that he can rotate 4Lz even from a slow entry, last season he had to pick up so much speed he practically had to be given a ticket
Now, announcing quads might be related to external expectations. The idea is that the skaters have to tell the Fed what it is they are planning to do in the season, and if they tell the Fed they might as well tell the world in general. Although you could say the merits of the latter are debatable.
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Some ideas based on Misha's new and old programs:
a) programs should not be overstuffed with too many arm movements [for some bits of his SP less is definitely more];
b) slower compositions allow him to show better lines and end up looking more "expensive", provided that a);
c) in view of the above, a paradoxical thought - lyrical programs might look better on Misha in spite of his preference for energetic ones. Although this is just a hypothesis. [I would like to see a performance of his LP where the fast sections are not skated as if through molasses to properly evaluate them. Apart from falling behind the music there is a feeling that the work done for the SP has made Misha's arm movements too soft for rock'n'roll].
a) programs should not be overstuffed with too many arm movements [for some bits of his SP less is definitely more];
b) slower compositions allow him to show better lines and end up looking more "expensive", provided that a);
c) in view of the above, a paradoxical thought - lyrical programs might look better on Misha in spite of his preference for energetic ones. Although this is just a hypothesis. [I would like to see a performance of his LP where the fast sections are not skated as if through molasses to properly evaluate them. Apart from falling behind the music there is a feeling that the work done for the SP has made Misha's arm movements too soft for rock'n'roll].
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I guess the idea was to give it a twist, to make it more interesting by a change of tempo? Ideally they should have used the first or third part of the concerto not just the adagio but oh well... I am not sure I like when skaters change the style just for the sake of change. Maybe if they chose some easier 'material', something like Hallelujah, but turn to lyrical + classical music is a bit too drastic of a change. Plus 2 quads in a sp for the first time- it is not going to be easy...
We really need to see LP skated better than that before jumping to any conclusions. As of now I just feel that it is a SP Mika is going to have a problem with (hope not!)
I think if Misha just plain can't manage those quads in the LP they will change the layout, e.g. reduce three to two for now, or do 4Lz and two quad toes. But it is clear he can't just stick with a couple of quads per two programs even if he wanted to - and I don't think he does, he's made it quite clear he wants to move forward. He is also capable of skating that layout in practice - practice is not the same as competition of course. Also he didn't pop axels when he skated this program without quads at the junior text skates, so it's likely not a problem with axels per se. It's also interesting that he can rotate 4Lz even from a slow entry, last season he had to pick up so much speed he practically had to be given a ticket
I wonder if there was any inside info on how he skated at 'closed' skates in Sochi. I read that it was 30C and the heat affected many skaters. I guess we'll never know what really happened.
I agree SP allows to see his lines better. All in all it was great to see a totally different Mika. He did look more 'expensive' as you put it
Now all the prayers for next week. Hope Nepela goes better than Sochi. I think those test skates open to public do more damage than any good (with exception for us the fans!) for one's confidence. The content should be watered down really at this stage.Edit: just noticed that Russian men are same at Nepela as in Sochi minus Petrov and Lazukin - interesting...
Ok, my first impression on the SP - maybe it's because I saw it right after I got to know that my favourite little Yulia now is officially retired from the sport, this Mozart masterpiece sounded like the pure sadness sounds, and - I couldn't recognize Mika, that charming quirky prince Mika - where is him? But then began a tango part - and it was, oh well, here you are, boy. So for me it was like if life gives you a lemon, make lemonade, if you give to Mika a piece of the pure sadness he'll transform it into a good old tango.
About the FP - it's hard to enjoy the programm where skater fails 6 jumps of 8 attempts, but still I liked this choice, comparing his last FP it is much more energetic, facsinating, hooked pieces of music. The last season at the middle of the programm he had an unfortunate part where he did 8-revolution spin and a few unexpressive transitions before the second part and he skated it to a very boring music, and you felt like you are so tired from this music and this programm. Elvis' music helps a lot in this case. But still he needs to skate it with much better mood and with much more better jumps. Wish him to skate better and better with every start and have a great season! Good luck!
About the FP - it's hard to enjoy the programm where skater fails 6 jumps of 8 attempts, but still I liked this choice, comparing his last FP it is much more energetic, facsinating, hooked pieces of music. The last season at the middle of the programm he had an unfortunate part where he did 8-revolution spin and a few unexpressive transitions before the second part and he skated it to a very boring music, and you felt like you are so tired from this music and this programm. Elvis' music helps a lot in this case. But still he needs to skate it with much better mood and with much more better jumps. Wish him to skate better and better with every start and have a great season! Good luck!
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Tomorrow starts Mika's first international competition of this season Ondrej Nepela, SP 16.15-19.15 local time
the draw is tonight.
Voronov replaced Aliev who is injured.
Mika's main competition will be his team mates and Tanako I think. Best of luck Mika
the draw is tonight.
Voronov replaced Aliev who is injured.
Mika's main competition will be his team mates and Tanako I think. Best of luck Mika
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Dima is injured?Tomorrow starts Mika's first international competition of this season Ondrej Nepela, SP 16.15-19.15 local time
the draw is tonight.
Voronov replaced Aliev who is injured.
Mika's main competition will be his team mates and Tanako I think. Best of luck Mika
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I don't think he was in the right mindset for competing, right from the start. It's not something you usually see in Misha to give up on his jumps - but well, he did have a rough start of season last year. It makes me wonder if the quads are giving him a harder time than he hoped for.
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