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Is he still for sure in the hospital? Maybe they discharged him and that’s why Valentina made the statement. She made it seem like the problem had been dealt with.

(I would be horrified if they only kept him there for a couple of hours)
They can't keep him for only a couple of hours after a puncture, he needs several IV drips and antibiotics injections for five days, although I guess it's possible to get injections outside the hospital settings, but not IV drips, obviously.
 
But they seemed chummy in Zagreb, where he was breathing so heavily in the KnC. Valentina was especially smiley after his short. But I guess she was hopeful at that point that the worst was over.

I will say, “Heal yourselves on time, folks” sounds like an admission of guilt on Misha’s part. But if Valentina couldn’t support him during the Olympics, maybe we’re overrestimating how much influence she has on his actions/mental state?
In the previous couple of seasons Valentina did manage to withdraw him from a competition for health reasons. Maybe Misha was prepared to take his back seriously but not his nose. And I am pretty sure Misha is the one who generally makes final decisions of that sort in that tandem.
 
Yes, its his health and a final decision is his, but this has been unfolding for 5 months now, if her pleas fell on dead ears, she should have found someone -a doctor, a specialist, a fellow sufferrer who he would listen to. Has he been treated by a specialist at all all that time -not that it does much good but a good doctor would warm him of long term effects, a balance issues in particular
 
Never mind, just read on Russian forums that he is indeed still in the hospital....

If getting to Worlds is an absolute must, then he should just do the Russian Cup Final and hope the Fed gives him the bye. I hate to say this, but it’s likely at least one of the Russian men is going to underperform at Europeans, leaving a spot open for Misha.
I suspect the Fed said "don't count on it". Misha has brought this on himself by competing sick while keeping quiet about his illness and ruining his standing with the Fed. When will Misha or anyone in that team think about the effect of their actions and worlds (or lack thereof) on Misha's reputation? Hire a PR consultant already.
 
I suspect the Fed said "don't count on it". Misha has brought this on himself by competing sick while keeping quiet about his illness and ruining his standing with the Fed. When will Misha or anyone in that team think about the effect of their actions and worlds (or lack thereof) on Misha's reputation? Hire a PR consultant already.

Where are you seeing this irreparable damage to his standing/reputation? I haven’t seen any quotes from major figures, so do you have insider information?

He underperformed this season, immensely so, but his scores have held up well in comparison with the other Russian men (in comparison with all the top men, really!) Misha is still an indispensable part of the team, whether RusFed favors him or not, and they know it. They can afford to be political with the ladies, where there are half a dozen who could challenge for the World podium, but not with the men, where there is literally only one guy.

As for reputation—I’m sure they’re not happy with him for keeping his illness secret, but there are also probably people who buy into the “heroic” narrative. At the end of the day, he is an athlete, and athletes want to push themselves to compete. He isn’t the only person in the world to do this, and he is certainly not the only one in Russia.

I also don’t understand where this “Misha is terrible at PR” argument is coming from. Sure, I wouldn’t say he’s good at it, but he isn’t controversial or overtly rude. There can be a bit of a sarcastic bite to the things he says in interviews (which I personally find endearing, but that's irrelevant to the discussion), but it never comes off as mean-spirited, and it is nothing compared to the things I hear from other competitors and coaches in Russia. As for the things he doesn’t say—again, he is not the first athlete to keep quiet about an illness and have it backfire on him, and he won’t be the last. I know my point of view is limited, but I don’t think the federation hates him as much as you think it does.

Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I don’t think Worlds is out of the question if he skips Nationals, gets healthy, and shows good results at another domestic competition. RusFed might have told him it was, but if everybody bombs at Euros and Misha gets healthy, then why on earth wouldn't they send him to Worlds? And if it is out of the question, so much the better: he can go home, get fully healthy, and start thinking about next season and any physical/psychological/technical changes that need to take place. I certainly don’t think his funding/place in the national team is in jeopardy. The Fed is not that stupid.
 
I suspect the Fed said "don't count on it". Misha has brought this on himself by competing sick while keeping quiet about his illness and ruining his standing with the Fed. When will Misha or anyone in that team think about the effect of their actions and worlds (or lack thereof) on Misha's reputation? Hire a PR consultant already.

Not like his standing with the Fed was that good, but hiding things that have an impact on his skating certainly does not help.
 
No news is good news or it is not? I thought we would hear something today!

Meanwhile, I don't think his illness has been that unknown to RusFed - they are generally keeping an eye on things, there are insiders, any amount of gossip and so on. Was any help/assistance/options how to adjust a training plan as to be able to get a treatment at the same time' offered is entirely different matter - I doubt it, at the same time 'you won't get if you never asked' so yes to pretend that everything is under control when it was not is never a good idea.

I am praying that he would not be allowed to go, a season is wasted anyway, to get healthy and start anew is more important. This condition is like a ticking bomb inside you - you know that it will go off again only don't know when - as a rule it happens at the most unfortunate moment (see Mika now) I personally gave up on any hope to beat it but Mika is younger, stronger and hopefully has no underlying causes like allergies as in my case, though he might have had a nose trauma in the past which could be that factor.
In a way it is good that it came to a hospital admission - he hopefully get a thorough examination and all kind of tests there. Young healthy people do not get a chronic sinusitis in a middle of the summer - there must have been something else going on with him.

Hope we'll hear something soon :pray:
 
A question: can he actually compete at Russian Cup Final if he hasn't competed at any of the RC stages?
 
Many thanks for clarifying, at least he's got that plan B

We don’t know if it is a Plan B, though. If he’s healthy, it would be nice to see him compete again in better circumstances, even if it doesn’t result in a Worlds assignment. But another part of me just wants him to take a long, relaxing vacation as soon as he gets out of the hospital! :laugh:

And yet, the official plan (as far as we know) is still to go to Nationals. I’m just pretending that isn't the case right now :bang:
 
We don’t know if it is a Plan B, though. If he’s healthy, it would be nice to see him compete again in better circumstances, even if it doesn’t result in a Worlds assignment. But another part of me just wants him to take a long, relaxing vacation as soon as he gets out of the hospital! :laugh:

And yet, the official plan (as far as we know) is still to go to Nationals. I’m just pretending that isn't the case right now :bang:
The group admins wrote today in Misha's VK group that the final decision hasn't actually been made yet.
 
No news is good news or it is not? I thought we would hear something today!

Meanwhile, I don't think his illness has been that unknown to RusFed - they are generally keeping an eye on things, there are insiders, any amount of gossip and so on. Was any help/assistance/options how to adjust a training plan as to be able to get a treatment at the same time' offered is entirely different matter - I doubt it, at the same time 'you won't get if you never asked' so yes to pretend that everything is under control when it was not is never a good idea.

I am praying that he would not be allowed to go, a season is wasted anyway, to get healthy and start anew is more important. This condition is like a ticking bomb inside you - you know that it will go off again only don't know when - as a rule it happens at the most unfortunate moment (see Mika now) I personally gave up on any hope to beat it but Mika is younger, stronger and hopefully has no underlying causes like allergies as in my case, though he might have had a nose trauma in the past which could be that factor.
In a way it is good that it came to a hospital admission - he hopefully get a thorough examination and all kind of tests there. Young healthy people do not get a chronic sinusitis in a middle of the summer - there must have been something else going on with him.

Hope we'll hear something soon :pray:
Misha suffered from constant respiratory infections when he was younger and was even given some kind of an inhaler (not for asthma). So he does have an underlying weakness in that area.
 
Where are you seeing this irreparable damage to his standing/reputation? I haven’t seen any quotes from major figures, so do you have insider information?

He underperformed this season, immensely so, but his scores have held up well in comparison with the other Russian men (in comparison with all the top men, really!) Misha is still an indispensable part of the team, whether RusFed favors him or not, and they know it. They can afford to be political with the ladies, where there are half a dozen who could challenge for the World podium, but not with the men, where there is literally only one guy.

As for reputation—I’m sure they’re not happy with him for keeping his illness secret, but there are also probably people who buy into the “heroic” narrative. At the end of the day, he is an athlete, and athletes want to push themselves to compete. He isn’t the only person in the world to do this, and he is certainly not the only one in Russia.

I also don’t understand where this “Misha is terrible at PR” argument is coming from. Sure, I wouldn’t say he’s good at it, but he isn’t controversial or overtly rude. There can be a bit of a sarcastic bite to the things he says in interviews (which I personally find endearing, but that's irrelevant to the discussion), but it never comes off as mean-spirited, and it is nothing compared to the things I hear from other competitors and coaches in Russia. As for the things he doesn’t say—again, he is not the first athlete to keep quiet about an illness and have it backfire on him, and he won’t be the last. I know my point of view is limited, but I don’t think the federation hates him as much as you think it does.

Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I don’t think Worlds is out of the question if he skips Nationals, gets healthy, and shows good results at another domestic competition. RusFed might have told him it was, but if everybody bombs at Euros and Misha gets healthy, then why on earth wouldn't they send him to Worlds? And if it is out of the question, so much the better: he can go home, get fully healthy, and start thinking about next season and any physical/psychological/technical changes that need to take place. I certainly don’t think his funding/place in the national team is in jeopardy. The Fed is not that stupid.
The damage is not irreparable, it's unnecessary in this form at least. He hurt his standing with the Fed by so many bad performances, they may be disinclined to give him anything at this point. The problem with goodwill and PR is that it's not the fans' point of view that needs to be considered. Misha is by all accounts a really good person, not someone whose mean-spirited nature can't help but shine through in his public interactions, but he manages to turn people against him unnecessarily. It's been said many times, don't run away from journalists after bad performances, lose "I won't tell you" and the like from your vocabulary, don't say things that make you come across as if you don't care about bad performances. Fans are going to interpret it the right way because they are naturally inclined to do so and can put it in context, regular people won't. I've had a lot of conversations where I had to defend Misha and I am so sick of having to repeat the same things over and over that could have been avoided if Misha had thought about exactly how he would come across when making a certain comment. Remember that jokes often do not come across well, especially in print. People take worlds literally, it's been shown many times. And if you don't tell people about your health issues, they are not going to guess, they are going to assume you don't have any, unlike other skaters whose problems are real because they talk about them. Misha's got himself a reputation that there is nothing ever wrong with him which is not due to lack of character because he doesn't talk. This becomes counterproductive after a certain point. Samarin has injuries Aliev has injuries, Voronov has health issues, Lazukin has health issues, only Misha is always fine. Even his back is somewhere at the edge of public consciousness because of how much they have tried to downplay it.

There is no half a dozen ladies this season who can challenge for the world podium, far from it. Next season maybe, not this season. Not last season either. Or ever, really.
 
I understand what you’re saying, really I do. I just can’t believe the Fed didn’t know there was something wrong with him. Blowing his nose every 30 seconds, looking purple-faced after every skate, breathing heavily in the Kiss and Cry.....surely this isn’t a surprise to them. And he did metion the sinusitis back in August, and made comments about how he wasn’t in the right physical condition after Helsinki and CoR. I know that as fans we pay closer attention to those details, but these things were obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes.

I can see why they would be upset that he didn’t withdraw from his earlier events and let the problem persist. If he had only withdrawn from Rostelecom, he could have gotten healthier and had more time to prepare for all the big competitions. I’m sure he’s upset with himself, so the only thing we can do right now is support him.

Let’s just hope the fallout doesn’t extend too far into next season. I still don’t think they’ll cut off his funding or anything drastic like that. I pray he withdraws from this event (it’s looking like he will at this point) and has a restful and productive time off. He can bounce back next season.
 
I understand what you’re saying, really I do. I just can’t believe the Fed didn’t know there was something wrong with him. Blowing his nose every 30 seconds, looking purple-faced after every skate, breathing heavily in the Kiss and Cry.....surely this isn’t a surprise to them. And he did metion the sinusitis back in August, and made comments about how he wasn’t in the right physical condition. I know as fans we pay closer attention to those details, but these things were obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes.

But I can see why they would be upset that he didn’t withdraw from his earlier events and let the problem persist. If he had only withdrawn from Rostelecom, he could have gotten healthier and had more time to prepare for all the big competitions. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.

Let’s just hope the fallout doesn’t extend too far into next season. I pray he withdraws from this event (it’s looking like he will at this point) and has a restful and productive time off. He can bounce back next season.
Were they expecting a miracle cure? After a sinus puncture under outpatient conditions, not urgent hospitalization, with no edema to deal with, no IV drips, you need to avoid physical exertion for at least a week. This is regular physical exertion, not competing in elite sports. I am not sure if he's even been discharged from the hospital yet, there haven't been news.
 
Were they expecting a miracle cure? After a sinus puncture under outpatient conditions, not urgent hospitalization, with no edema to deal with, no IV drips, you need to avoid physical exertion for at least a week. This is regular physical exertion, not competing in elite sports. I am not sure if he's even been discharged from the hospital yet, there haven't been news.

That’s what concerned me most about Valentina’s comment. This isn’t just something they can cure right now, and everything will be okay. It will take sustained treatment, and rest.

It’s times like these when I wish Misha had a more experienced team around him. But Valentina has been doing this for a while, albeit not at this level, so I don’t know what the problem is. Blaming only Misha feels wrong to me, though. I know he’s a grown man and is responsible for his own actions, but athletes are always going to want to push themselves. Somebody should have put their foot down.

I feel like we’re not going to have an answer until the last possible minute :(
 
That’s what concerned me most about Valentina’s comment. This isn’t just something they can cure right now, and everything will be okay. It will take sustained treatment, and rest.

It’s times like these when I wish Misha had a more experienced team around him. But Valentina has been doing this for a while, albeit not at this level, so I don’t know what the problem is. Blaming only Misha feels wrong to me, though. I know he’s a grown man and is responsible for his own actions, but athletes are always going to want to push themselves. Somebody should have put their foot down.
It is quite possible that Valentina said they were going because she didn't know otherwise yet and she isn't Mishin with his pull, so it was safer at that point. I doubt she was planning to take Misha no matter what.

Does Valentina have enough sway over Misha to put her foot down if he insists on continuing to train and compete? I have some doubts at this point.
 
It is quite possible that Valentina said they were going because she didn't know otherwise yet and she isn't Mishin with his pull, so it was safer at that point. I doubt she was planning to take Misha no matter what.

Does Valentina have enough sway over Misha to put her foot down if he insists on continuing to train and compete? I have some doubts at this point.

There are other people around him, though. Olga, Mikhail S., teammates, doctors. I’m not absolving him of the blame, I just wonder if anybody tried to say anything, and if so, how hard they tried.
 
There are other people around him, though. Olga, Mikhail S., teammates, doctors. I’m not absolving him of the blame, I just wonder if anybody tried to say anything, and if so, how hard they tried.
Maybe there will be an interview at some point where "you should get treated in time" gets further development.
 
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