Can we all go throw him a random, surprise party and take him out somewhere fun? Pls?
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Can we all go throw him a random, surprise party and take him out somewhere fun? Pls?
I would be so down
He looked genuinely happy and relieved at the Ex... I liked it. Hopefully, this will take some of the pressure off. While I didn't want to see him struggle the way he did, going undefeated into Beijing sounded like a horror story. Just look at the headlines going into Las Vegas, it was like flipping a switch after the media summit... those headlines were everywhere.
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I really need to say this: I LOVE his new SP. I don't know the music and have no idea what it's about but can't help watching the program over and over again. Whoever choreographed it has done a wonderful job. The tension just keeps building towards the final footwork ... I can even imagine the impact it can have once it's skated clean.
I think Nathan’s FS music has special meaning for this Beijing Olympics in the backdrop of the pandemic. Here we 5 million deaths and countless families affected. The peaceful piano concerto No 23 depicts the pre-covid days, the Lacrimosa reflects our losses, sadness and grieving, the Apache remix gives us hope and shows us an uplifting spirit.Nathan is such a handsome man !I love his EX program!
For those wondering why I am so lukewarm about the lacrimosa.. here is an approximate translation...
Mournful that day when from the dust shall rise guilty men to be judged.
Therefore spare them O God, Merciful Jesus, Grant them rest!
In the context of the Olympics... in a judged sport... let's hope the skating gods hear the prayers.. but that makes me itchy.
If Nathan could do a 6-quad FS at the Olympics, he might end his competition career. I feel doing 6 quads in a 7-jumping pass program would be a hallmark for him and for future figure skaters.I don't think you're reading too much into this. We know Nathan is planning to step away from figure skating...and, who knows. It could ultimately end up being his final season and the end of his skating career. It's clearly a goodbye message. I'm trying to cling on to hopes that it ends up being just a temporary thing. But, yeah, despite the upbeat music and Nathan smiling a lot, it made me incredibly sad. Am I allowed to cry here in the fan fests area of these forums?
One day my father, he told me
"Son, don't let it slip away"
He took me in his arms, I heard him say
"When you get older
Your wild heart will live for younger days
Think of me if ever you're afraid"
He said: "One day you'll leave this world behind
So live a life you will remember"
My father told me when I was just a child
"These are the nights that never die"
There's a reason why he's trying to put it all out there on the ice this season. I guess its so that he won't have any regrets if he ends up not coming back. I don't think it's necessarily even about winning gold. I think he just wants to be able to look back on his skating career and say that he did everything he wanted to. Sorry about such a negative post
EDIT: just wanted to add that for all the talk we do about how Lacrimosa, being a funeral mass, isn't proper for Nathan to be using at the Olympics...deep down, I think it kind of is. Not in a negative or bad way, of course...but...you know...the end of a memorable, magnificent career.
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I have read similar ideas elsewhere. I am far from being convinced. I can perhaps buy the lacrimosa portion as a reference to the pandemic but the before and after makes no sense. Actually, the pre covid times were not peaceful at all like you suggest in relation to the concerto... And no remix can make a lacrimosa uplifting and hopeful. To me, it sounds frenetic and chaotic. The juxtaposition of these pieces is at best awkward. As i said numerous times, my support for the athlete remains unchanged, just like my dislike of the music chosen. No need to elaborate any further.
At this point, I don't even care whether there's super deep meaning to it or not. I'm addicted to this program. I've lost track of the number of times I've watched it 
Even if the meaning is as simple as just celebrating Mozart's music and incorporating a remix to give the program a more climactic, energy-filled ending, I'm all for it. I've never been to a FS competition before but I desperately want to go to Nationals this year to watch this program live. I just get this nagging feeling that not getting a chance to see Nathan perform live would be something I'd regret. I can't recall who said this but someone on some podcast show was saying that he's one of those skaters who's even more amazing live than he is on a TV screen. I NEED TO SEE.
Even if the meaning is as simple as just celebrating Mozart's music and incorporating a remix to give the program a more climactic, energy-filled ending, I'm all for it. I've never been to a FS competition before but I desperately want to go to Nationals this year to watch this program live. I just get this nagging feeling that not getting a chance to see Nathan perform live would be something I'd regret. I can't recall who said this but someone on some podcast show was saying that he's one of those skaters who's even more amazing live than he is on a TV screen. I NEED TO SEE.
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The world has never being in the exact every sense of peace. I didn’t mean that. It’s the pre pandemic life we enjoyed and took for granted, simple as visiting friends and families and attending sporting events. My interpretation is from his choreography and performance. The Apashe choreo sequence is energetic and a fight to beat back the pandemic and a hope to gain back our normalcy and social freedom, which reflects our current situation.
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He is.Nathan is such a handsome man !
Sounds like something Dick Button would have said back when he was commentating. He would have given some symbolic meaning to his t-shirts, too.
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definitely go if you have the chance. It is amazing to see skaters live in the arena. This is really where we can see awesome skating skills and I suspect that Nathan would shine even more live because of his exquisite posture and refinement.At this point, I don't even care whether there's super deep meaning to it or not. I'm addicted to this program. I've lost track of the number of times I've watched it
Even if the meaning is as simple as just celebrating Mozart's music and incorporating a remix to give the program a more climactic, energy-filled ending, I'm all for it. I've never been to a FS competition before but I desperately want to go to Nationals this year to watch this program live. I just get this nagging feeling that not getting a chance to see Nathan perform live would be something I'd regret. I can't recall who said this but someone on some podcast show was saying that he's one of those skaters who's even more amazing live than he is on a TV screen. I NEED TO SEE.
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nathan is not allowed to retire before I see him skate live at Montreal worlds
Hi, I am new here. Just wanted to say hello and thank you first - I am a Nathan fan and for quite a long time your forum has been my place to go for any most-up-to-date information about Nathan. I decide to join today as I wanted you to know there are so many like minds out there, who believe, adore and support Nathan no matter what.
I've been collecting my thoughts after Nathan's skate this past week. To be honest, it was amusing to see how the always neutral and informative sheetz was on the brink of losing patience with Nathan, and that surprise helped me to start thinking about this somewhat more analytically.
I think the hard part thing for champions like Nathan and Yuzu is how to deal with situations where they feel their current best is NOT enough to make up short program deficits. For Yuzu at the GPF, we could sense his desperation, and how he was trying to throw things together to make up the distance. The difference for Nathan here compared to worlds was that this was the first time he was dealing with someone with a similar tech arsenal as him, and so he somewhat impulsively went for six quads, even though he wasn't ready for it. I think if Nathan calmly didn't try to throw in the Quad Lutz, perhaps he would have still been able to go for the Salchow like planned. Would it have been enough? Perhaps not, but he would have been able to do better.
Nathan has been saying that he isn't focused on winning, but this week really put that to the test for him, as it seemed pretty clear that he WAS. I don't blame him for that, but when he is focused on winning, his performance inevitably goes down. I think that his carefree performance during the gala was a good sign, because perhaps this was a reminder to not be TOO focused on winning, on just doing his best. The good thing for Nathan is that when he does his best, he is probably going to win.
We'll see how he does this week!
I think the hard part thing for champions like Nathan and Yuzu is how to deal with situations where they feel their current best is NOT enough to make up short program deficits. For Yuzu at the GPF, we could sense his desperation, and how he was trying to throw things together to make up the distance. The difference for Nathan here compared to worlds was that this was the first time he was dealing with someone with a similar tech arsenal as him, and so he somewhat impulsively went for six quads, even though he wasn't ready for it. I think if Nathan calmly didn't try to throw in the Quad Lutz, perhaps he would have still been able to go for the Salchow like planned. Would it have been enough? Perhaps not, but he would have been able to do better.
Nathan has been saying that he isn't focused on winning, but this week really put that to the test for him, as it seemed pretty clear that he WAS. I don't blame him for that, but when he is focused on winning, his performance inevitably goes down. I think that his carefree performance during the gala was a good sign, because perhaps this was a reminder to not be TOO focused on winning, on just doing his best. The good thing for Nathan is that when he does his best, he is probably going to win.
We'll see how he does this week!
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I agree. Nerves were the reason he bombed both SPs at the last Olympics. I would hate for the same thing to repeat 4 years later. It would be such a shame because he does have the goods to win.
I understand why, but I also wish the olympic gold medal is not considered the top prize for every sport. God knows I love the olympics but there are so many factors contributing to how an athlete performs, not including the nerves- timing, injuries, peaking, momentum, etc. so much pressure for that one moment in time.
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This is a good way of describing the program. I can appreciate this interpretation because I sense some “heaviness” in his programs this year. Somehow I feel like it it is his “goodbye” to the sport, even his exhibition. It’s not easy to keep in top form and train enough to add new tech while not too much to prevent injuries. To deal with relentless social media bullies, sensationalist media articles, etc… definitely takes a toll on a person’s wellbeing. So as hard it may be to step away from the sport, it may come as a relief somehow.
I agree with some of the comments that a happier SP may be better but of course only he and his team knows what’s best. For example when he performed caravan his whole demeanor was upbeat and fun. That energy does make a difference. I would not mind seeing that program again and it’s not a bad idea to bring an old program back.
I read that he likes to challenge himself and thus adding the quad loop- but man, that’s in addition to repeating a part of Nemesis which comes with some bad memories- a 6 quad program (which I think they’ve been working towards eventually)- having 2 new programs (especially one he’s been saving for the olympics)- and not unveiling the new programs till the Grand Prix.
I think as much as he enjoys skating and performing in front of a large audience, he has always been a fierce competitor so it’s only natural for him to want to win. The only difference, in my view, is he has always been confident in winning since 2018 Olympics, until this time around. That begs the question why? I read quite a few of you suspected something quite serious might have happened, which I agree. So I asked myself: what could be this thing that bothered so much that he appeared so out of character even prior to SA? He has been of a class of his own and literally no competition in the world of figure skating for the past 3-4 years. What has changed? Then I remembered the incident in the past summer when he issued a public apology. I think that’s it! As intelligent and considerate a person as he is, and he knows the industry inside and out, he must have a compelling reason to be nervous, as figure skating is a judging sport, and the human judges are the power there to decide who wins or not. Look at the ridiculously low PCS he received this time around (0.16 for a perfect 4T3T combination and 1.3 for a flawless 4L) - they are punishing him as a straight skater who dared to point out the fact that a lot of people in the sport aren’t, despite his apology. How obnoxious! I sincerely hope I am wrong. We will see what happens at SC this weekend.
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I also agree with you. That incident really affect his mentality. That’s what I afraid...(but I think if you are human, everyone can be influenced those thing..) However, what I relieved after seeing him in person at SA, he looks like more relieved and calm at the exhibition. Let’s see what happens in SC, but based on what I see and what I talk with Nathan he looks calmer and settled down after the SA.
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