Let’s keep the feelings here nice and soft
Like the amazing ice that Nathan enjoyed skating on while he was with Marina
thank you but
nice and softETA, i HAVE to add oatmella you are too funny:rofl2:
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thank you but
nice and softETA, i HAVE to add oatmella you are too funny:rofl2:
Haha, it’s ok. Just be yourself, that’s good enough
Anybody well versed in Harry Potter? What house would Nathan be put under? This is such a random question but it came up in another discussion and I’m curious lol
GRYFFINDOR
I’m a Ravenclaw myself though
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GRIFFYNDOR
I’m a Ravenclaw myself though
I’ve heard him be put under Slytherin, Griffyndor, and Ravenclaw but I honestly don’t know too much about the differences lol. Why Griffyndor?
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The dream moment to me would be Nathan winning 2022 OGM with Raf sitting next to him in K&C...I want them to learn and mature together and prove it to everyone that they can make it...sorry yyyskate.#notsoukmate
I don't know how many skaters won OGM with their childhood coach, but if Nathan and Raf can that's pretty
ETA
I think being able to build that kind of long term coach/student relationship itself is as golden as OGM...especially for two seemingly very different types of person like Raf and Nathan.
I don't know how many skaters won OGM with their childhood coach, but if Nathan and Raf can that's pretty
ETA
I think being able to build that kind of long term coach/student relationship itself is as golden as OGM...especially for two seemingly very different types of person like Raf and Nathan.
If we’re going by his first outing last season at US International Classics, then yes, he did in fact change several transitions in the SP.
Initally there were a few more „difficult“ steps/turns or embellishment in there…
Granted, he seems to have changed a few of them because his 3A was unstable or because they didn’t fit his usual, simple quad set-ups and would have taken out speed/flow, but again, it shows that he’s not willing or not yet capable of incorporating anything more difficult than a FI mohawk before his quads.
(even the short and quick hint of a FI blues-choctaw-leaning-towards-a-mohawk thingy, that he used to do before his 4T, doesn’t seem comfortable enough anymore)
Changes that caught my eye, from its first version to worlds (yes I know, he’s changed the jump layout so naturally some transitions would or should end up in another place of the program):
(during crossovers at the short end of the rink)
BO choctaw, FI counter —> step from an BO edge (with less of a "choctaw character" because is seems to switch to a slight BI) to FI edge, FI mohawk
(during set-up for the first jump)
FI bracket -> nothing
(directly after the spread eagle sequence after crossing over)
BO 3turn, FI Mohawk —> step forward, FI Mohawk
(directly after second jump)
an unlisted one-revolution jump (don’t know if it has a name, sometimes done in StSqs) from FI to a „tapped“ FI, FI 3turn —> just the FI 3turn
(setting up third jump)
FI counter, that quick FI blues choctaw/mohawk whatever thingy -> well, nothing
And it’s not like I sat down and extensively compared his later versions to this first one, those changes were immediately apparent to me, because those little differences in the stepwork did change the look of the program for me, even though it doesn’t look like thaaat many changes.
I actually don’t think that’s true, I think this season he seems to be quite „lazy“ in his ex programs, often simplifying steps and such. His BFTE program is mostly ok I guess, a bit repetitive though, for me he used to do more in previous seasons, and show some more versatility.
Also, speaking of changes in Nemesis, during SOI he’s always substituted that one FO bracket in the StSq for a simple mohawk, too… and I have to admit, it really bugs me, even though it’s just a detail. Because once again, it looks way cooler in its original version, and also, why change it, it’s not super difficult or anything (and couldn’t he treat the SOI performances as a kind of practice for his competitions, doing the slightly more „challenging“ footwork and not taking the easy way out…?)
ETA:
Please no, Raf would probably squeeze him to death!
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The dream moment to me would be Nathan winning 2022 OGM with Raf sitting next to him in K&C...I want them to learn and mature together and prove it to everyone that they can make it...sorry yyyskate.#notsoukmate
I don't know how many skaters won OGM with their childhood coach, but if Nathan and Raf can that's pretty
Aww, that’s such a nice image. I would like this too, it’d be so precious for both. Let’s pray it comes true
Also I think they’re more alike than different which is why they’ve worked well together. The difference is how they outwardly express themselves. Atleast imo. But I also am rooting for them, they make a good team.
The dream moment to me would be Nathan winning 2022 OGM with Raf sitting next to him in K&C...I want them to learn and mature together and prove it to everyone that they can make it...sorry yyyskate.#notsoukmate
I don't know how many skaters won OGM with their childhood coach, but if Nathan and Raf can that's pretty
ETA
I think being able to build that kind of long term coach/student relationship itself is as golden as OGM...especially for two seemingly very different types of person like Raf and Nathan.
#notsoulmate :sad21:
ETA, Yuzuru's childhood coach Nanami willingly send him to Orser only for his better development is the most selfless and loving coach/student moment/relationship for me. Although she is not the one sit on the K&C during Yuzuru's OGM winning moments.
If we’re going by his first outing last season at US International Classics, then yes, he did in fact change several transitions in the SP.
Initally there were a few more „difficult“ steps/turns or embellishment in there…
Granted, he seems to have changed a few of them because his 3A was unstable or because they didn’t fit his usual, simple quad set-ups and would have taken out speed/flow, but again, it shows that he’s not willing or not yet capable of incorporating anything more difficult than a FI mohawk before his quads.
(even the short and quick hint of a FI blues-choctaw-leaning-towards-a-mohawk thingy, that he used to do before his 4T, doesn’t seem comfortable enough anymore)
Changes that caught my eye, from its first version to worlds (yes I know, he’s changed the jump layout so naturally some transitions would or should end up in another place of the program):
(during crossovers at the short end of the rink)
BO choctaw, FI counter —> step from an BO edge (with less of a "choctaw character" because is seems to switch to a slight BI) to FI edge, FI mohawk
(during set-up for the first jump)
FI bracket -> nothing
(directly after the spread eagle sequence after crossing over)
BO 3turn, FI Mohawk —> step forward, FI Mohawk
(directly after second jump)
an unlisted one-revolution jump (don’t know if it has a name, sometimes done in StSqs) from FI to a „tapped“ FI, FI 3turn —> just the FI 3turn
(setting up third jump)
FI counter, that quick FI blues choctaw/mohawk whatever thingy -> well, nothing
And it’s not like I sat down and extensively compared his later versions to this first one, those changes were immediately apparent to me, because those little differences in the stepwork did change the look of the program for me, even though it doesn’t look like thaaat many changes.
I actually don’t think that’s true, I think this season he seems to be quite „lazy“ in his ex programs, often simplifying steps and such. His BFTE program is mostly ok I guess, a bit repetitive though, for me he used to do more in previous seasons, and show some more versatility.
Also, speaking of changes in Nemesis, during SOI he’s always substituted that one FO bracket in the StSq for a simple mohawk, too… and I have to admit, it really bugs me, even though it’s just a detail. Because once again, it looks way cooler in its original version, and also, why change it, it’s not super difficult or anything (and couldn’t he treat the SOI performances as a kind of practice for his competitions, doing the slightly more „challenging“ footwork and not taking the easy way out…?)
ETA:
Please no, Raf would probably squeeze him to death!
Thank you for all your detailed analysis, although it may just something come into your mind, maybe there is more..
Repost because I think it is valid point needs attention from Nathan.
@1111bm
I watched redshirt nemesis again, :sad21:
you know, i HAVE hoped that Nathan could keep this original redshirt nemesis jump lay-out and spend the whole season to upgrade it into quads and polish the original transitions/choreos. it did not happen:sad21:
ETA: also the spin flourishes Nathan added in SOI shows himself, may not be able to used in competition since those spins in SOI show are easier spins, he does not need to worry about levels.
ETA: if Nathan seriously wanna use SOI as practice, he should try 3A as much as possible (like what Yuzuru, Patrick or Kaetelyn used to do when they need to use shows as practice.), instead of his most confident jumps 4T, 3F and 3LZ. well Nathan wanna gave great show to the audience. So it is okay.
I watched redshirt nemesis again, :sad21:
you know, i HAVE hoped that Nathan could keep this original redshirt nemesis jump lay-out and spend the whole season to upgrade it into quads and polish the original transitions/choreos. it did not happen:sad21:
ETA: also the spin flourishes Nathan added in SOI shows himself, may not be able to used in competition since those spins in SOI show are easier spins, he does not need to worry about levels.
ETA: if Nathan seriously wanna use SOI as practice, he should try 3A as much as possible (like what Yuzuru, Patrick or Kaetelyn used to do when they need to use shows as practice.), instead of his most confident jumps 4T, 3F and 3LZ. well Nathan wanna gave great show to the audience. So it is okay.
Yes, we've discussed this previously in the FF and I think this part is the key. Along with issues due to his constant layout changes it appears to still be a challenge for him to incorporate more difficult transitions into a quad heavy program. But that does not mean he is unwilling to do so. It is my opinion that Nathan is very ambitious and does want to incorporate these elements into his programs but that he is still not at the level where he can do them consistently.
Haha, it’s ok. Just be yourself, that’s good enough
Anybody well versed in Harry Potter? What house would Nathan be put under? This is such a random question but it came up in another discussion and I’m curious lol
Gryffindor. He's fearless.
I have a question, do you think Nathan is able do the transitions into his 4T like Shoma's?
his quad jumps does not have as much flow as Shoma's to my untrained eyes. but Nathan's take-off in his quads are all textbook, have to say something positive about our boi.
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Gryffindor seems to be the consensus. Slytherin is the ambitious one right? And Ravenclaw the intelligent one? I can see why he’s brought up in all three. Poor Huffelpuff lol
If this is at all relevant, ‘Why you should fall in love with a Gryffindor’ from Pottermore
https://www.pottermore.com/features/why-you-should-fall-in-love-with-a-gryffindor
‘ ... teenage romances are tricky, even for Gryffindors’
https://www.pottermore.com/features/why-you-should-fall-in-love-with-a-gryffindor
‘ ... teenage romances are tricky, even for Gryffindors’
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Nodding head.
That's because you have to read them! Duh!
(Wasn't that like the whole point of the HP phenomenon?
)omg... just saw this... I just remembered why I can't stand to watch ice dance...
Yes - go in for the nuzzle like Scott
Nah, he's too short for that (at least with Ashley)... :scard8:
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I see him as a Gryffindor too.
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