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If you guys have a say on what music or medley Nathan should skate to in his SP, FS, and Exhibition for the 2022 Olympics, what would they be?
I want one competitive program to be a Polunin inspired Hozier piece like the one at ATS.
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That's fantastic! I wish I could see Shae or MFD collaborating with Derek Hough or Mandy Moore (the choreographer, not the singer - lol) to do something like that.
While this might be a similar genre to his SP now, the rhythm and texture of this music is pretty cool for him to have fun with:
or some tribal flare
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for exhibition, would be fun for him to try this or in a men group number
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I don’t like pompous or trying too hard or overly stretched lines. I don’t think those are requirements for being expressive like many non-Nathan fans seem to think. What is frustrating to me though is I have seen Nathan be expressive in his own unique ways (pretty sure most of us have) without resorting to any of those platitudinous ways, and it’s hugely satisfying to watch. But he just rarely opens up/loosens up enough in competitions to show that and I often have to watch practices or debuts to see him do what he can really do artistically.
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Nathan's not really my fave but I actually think you have a point. I've read/watched a few interviews with some high profile choreographers and when asked which skaters - if they could pick anybody - they would like to choreograph for, they said Papadakis/Cizeron and Nathan. Sandra Bezic mentioned his swagger and I think she liked working with him during ATS. I love Sandra and would love to see what a Nathan/Sandra collaboration would look like.
I will not worry what fans around the net think of Nathan’s skating.Nathan has 2 world, and 5 National first place trophies in his arsenal. Enough superiority there!
The man has it all!
As for programs, I will like to see something like Marina gave him back in 2018.
Also I will love to see him in well fitted costumes.
Please don’t let anyone fool you, and especially the guys from TSL. What do they know. I get a laugh when they act like experts!
I let Nathan ‘s skating do the talking!
The man has it all!
As for programs, I will like to see something like Marina gave him back in 2018.
Also I will love to see him in well fitted costumes.
Please don’t let anyone fool you, and especially the guys from TSL. What do they know. I get a laugh when they act like experts!
I let Nathan ‘s skating do the talking!
I agree with you, but you already know that.
Apart from practices and debuts, oftentimes his performances in the first half of the season have been more care-free as well, and they usually become more controlled and hence more reserved as the season goes on.
And as I already said, I thought it was particularly bad at this year's nationals, which I didn't expect at all. I haven't seen him this cautious for two seasons, still not sure what was going on with him (or maybe I'm totally off, but he himself has said that about his performances too in interviews post comp). I mean, who knows, maybe he was just having a bad weekend jump-wise and it happened to coincide with this competition where he was 'supposed' to upgrade his tech, so just an unfortunate coincidence.
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Well, I don’t. I’d rather him not pack his programs with so many quads and feel like he has to land each of them perfectly, and hence have more capacity to skate freely. I frankly hate the title “quad king”. But that’s, of course, just me.
You are not alone. I wish he could skate freely but this is a sport. It is pretty obvious to me that he has to win on technical not artistic performance even though I absolutely adore his artistry. He is not getting the same level of recognition on his performance as in quads. But I do hope they figure out the ultimate jump layout this season and focus on refining the execution in preparation for the Olympics.
Exactly. I don't expect him to land all of his jumps cleanly or do those insane layouts in the first place. I certainly wasn't disappointed that he wasn't perfect jump-wise (I did sympathise with him though, because he seemed extremely disappointed with himself for not skating clean, just look at him in the KnC for both programs and the way he reacts to his scores, he seemed barely interested in them).
I am disappointed however, if he doesn't skate as smoothly and relaxed (relatively of course) and with that fluidity, confidence and swagger that I know he is capable of.
ETA: Agree re the 'quad king'... in a way it's just a fun 'title', but it of course also carries the risk of pigeonholing him as only that, and also puts those expectations on him.
On to something more fun... I had to laugh at this collection of photos:
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Seems like Nathan finally discovered what we've all already been admiring for so long... the beauty of his hands! And now he's transfixed by them and can't take his eyes off them.
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Seems like Nathan finally discovered what we've all already been admiring for so long... the beauty of his hands! And now he's transfixed by them and can't take his eyes off them.
I don’t like his programs packed with quads, and I don’t care about the quad king title, but I don’t hate the title either. It is an incredible achievement, an acknowledgement of what he has achieved in that part of this sports at this moment or phase of his skating career. In the meantime, it is a reminder that his development on other aspects of FS hasn’t been been widely recognized either due to his inability to show them enough in competitions as a result of his focus on quads, or the obsession or focus only on the quad aspect of his skating from fs fans, media or USFS. We also need to remember this is a person who truly loves jumping.
I doubt if other skaters have his capability of landing so many quads wouldn’t put so many quads in their programs. It is how this sport is currently rewarding. Also, from reading articles of other skaters like Misha and Vincent, landing quads in competitions does have psychological impacts on their competitive minds, either in terms of consistency as in the case of Misha, or the capabilities of landing better quads allows him to focus more on the performance part as in the case of Vincent.
He was tense in both SP and FS, but to me he has done much better in the 5 quad FS than SP, his 5 quad FS was better delivered than the 4 quad fs at SkAm. I agree that leaving out some details or choreos was more the result of extra quad, but I don’t agree that extra quad is the cause of his competition nerves.
My impression is he is always nervous to varying degrees in SP. The only exceptions I could think of was Caravan at SkAm when he had lower expectations of himself, and La Boheme at Nats20 when he barely recovered from a very bad flu.
He is still learning how to deal with nerves and expectations. Some days he is good, some days he is not that good in dealing with those nerves
I doubt if other skaters have his capability of landing so many quads wouldn’t put so many quads in their programs. It is how this sport is currently rewarding. Also, from reading articles of other skaters like Misha and Vincent, landing quads in competitions does have psychological impacts on their competitive minds, either in terms of consistency as in the case of Misha, or the capabilities of landing better quads allows him to focus more on the performance part as in the case of Vincent.
He was tense in both SP and FS, but to me he has done much better in the 5 quad FS than SP, his 5 quad FS was better delivered than the 4 quad fs at SkAm. I agree that leaving out some details or choreos was more the result of extra quad, but I don’t agree that extra quad is the cause of his competition nerves.
My impression is he is always nervous to varying degrees in SP. The only exceptions I could think of was Caravan at SkAm when he had lower expectations of himself, and La Boheme at Nats20 when he barely recovered from a very bad flu.
He is still learning how to deal with nerves and expectations. Some days he is good, some days he is not that good in dealing with those nerves
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I don't necessarily like Nathan packing in the quads, either, but do I want him to show that he can do them and combine them with a great program. Because he *does* have the ability to do it! That's why I hope he continues to compete after Beijing because I know he can become the new standard for men's skating for years to come.
Nathan interviewed on latest Ice Talk. His part begins at around 19m
Ice Talk: The Bubble Championships
After another competition week inside the figure skating bubble in Las Vegas, four national champions were crowned and World Teams were named. Host Mirai and Producer Tara break down what happened, what didn't, and how it all stacks up in light of an unconfirmed World Championships schedule...
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I don't necessarily like Nathan packing in the quads, either, but do I want him to show that he can do them and combine them with a great program. Because he *does* have the ability to do it! That's why I hope he continues to compete after Beijing because I know he can become the new standard for men's skating for years to come.
Nathan interviewed on latest Ice Talk. His part begins at around 19m
Ice Talk: The Bubble Championships
After another competition week inside the figure skating bubble in Las Vegas, four national champions were crowned and World Teams were named. Host Mirai and Producer Tara break down what happened, what didn't, and how it all stacks up in light of an unconfirmed World Championships schedule...icetalk.libsyn.com
thanks for sharing - loved this interview of Nathan. he is kinda natural with the interview, lil did Mirai know that he was already interviewing her...hahaha
I could see Nathan being a guest technical specialist in like 10-15 years from now.
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The title was also previously associated with Tim Goebel. And Nathan's skating is anything but like Goebel's.
In my mind, Nathan is a beautiful skater with great emotional depth. He is just more subtle - and his body movement includes nuances than are often missed, if you’re not paying attention. He is not a drama skater, which, for me is a good thing. This is not to meant to be an argument...it’s just how I feel when I watch him skate. He marches to a different drummer, and I like that.
Nathan wins USSA Athlete of the Year! (I wonder how many people really vote on these things...)
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Repeat Winner Nathan Chen, Swimmer Lilly King Selected as the United States Sports Academy’s 2020 Athletes of the Year | United States Sports University
Following an online voting period that garnered thousands of votes from all corners of the world, American figure skating superstar Nathan Chen has repeated as the United States Sports Academy’s Male Athlete of the Year. On the women’s side, American swimmer Lilly King took home the Academy’s...
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Article from Salt Lake Tribune
Nathan Chen flies above the uncertainty surrounding the international figure skating calendar
The pandemic has left the international figure skating calendar in tatters, with no certainty when, or if competitors will get to skate before the 2022 Olympics are scheduled to be held in Beijing. Through it all, Salt Lake City skater Nathan Chen has remained unfazed, including landing 129...
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Video of portion of Nathan's Ice Talk interview
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Team Toyota remembering Nathan's 4peat
Video of portion of Nathan's Ice Talk interview
Compilation of Nathan at Nats
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