Like Jeremy Abbott did in this year at Nationals in Spokane - he was 9th in SP, 3rd in FS and won the 4th place pewter medal. Derrick Delmore was 11th in SP and 5th in FS for 6th place overall. So, two of the top 5 senior men's free skates came from the penultimate group.Then there is the comment about whether a skater in the reject group can move up. With IJS, the ninth place skater in the SP has a chance to move up quite a few places. Conceivably even into fourth place for a medal.