Now that it's over...the Bolero LP

[attyfan]

IMHO, if the USFSA had adopted the CoP earlier, both Michelle and Sasha would have shown up with more CoP-friendly programs, and the result would have been the same (i.e., the one with the fewest major mistakes wins) After all, isn't the whole big controversy about the judging of Euros was that the win was given to a skater who fell over one who did not?

 

[Doggygirl]

Iirc...

The USFSA's reasons for not adopting the COP for this years nats was discussed a very long time ago around here. IIRC, the "company line" was the cost and time required to implement computers, train callers, judges, etc. - just not enough time / resources to get it done this year. Of course I think many of us are skeptical of the USFSA's "company lines" and what else might be going on behind the scenes.

At the end of the day, by NOT adopting the CoP for US Nats, I don't think they did any of our American skaters a favor. Especially those who for whatever reasons were not skating the GP series in full. While I'm sure the top skaters like Sasha and Michelle have the rule book out and are getting input from experts, there is nothing like a real competition to show you where you stand. Of course Sasha did well under CoP last year, but this year with new programs, who knows.

And then of course we have the suspicion that PCS scores are sort of being "carried over" from other competitions. Not that I think someone like Michelle will end up with really low scores just because she has no history under CoP, and not that I think scores SHOULD be held over, they absolutely should not. But it will be interesting to see how the PCS scores show up for any skaters who have not competed under CoP this year.

DG

 

[mzheng]

And then of course we have the suspicion that PCS scores are sort of being "carried over" from other competitions. Not that I think someone like Michelle will end up with really low scores just because she has no history under CoP, and not that I think scores SHOULD be held over, they absolutely should not. But it will be interesting to see how the PCS scores show up for any skaters who have not competed under CoP this year.

DG

Well seeing how judges assign the PCS scores, I doubt either Sasha or MK would get lower PCS scores than SA or IS. Was IS automatically get mid 7 PCS scores when she first competed under CoP? Actually I think Sasha is smart not to compete under CoP this season, so she might can carry over her PCS scores gain last year to the worlds. No body got even close to what she got last season. Though the CoP rule is modified this season and judges are more strict with PCSs. Even with 0.5 lower in each criatiria, which by judge standard is a lot, Sasha still will be able to get 8.0 range that I believe.

The only thing hurt them, is they must be absolutely sure of their difficult level in each element. Don't leave the ambigouse grey area for judge that it can be called either level 1 or level 2, either level 2 or level 3. If you want a level 2, simply meet all the critirias of level 2 possible, don't leave out the room. So the tech specialist (most of them are Rusian anyway) can't downgrade your level by excuses.