I wonder how many of the posters on this board can do the biellmann position. I tried it once myself and figured that you gotta be super flexible to do that.
I can do a reverse Beillmann... that involves bending over ...uuuunnngh.... and grabbing the bottom of my slippers, getting dizzy from the exertion, and spinning on my way to the floor
I did rhythmic gymnastics from 4 to 12 years old, and ballet from 4 to 17. I'm almost 29 and I can still do it ! Some of my friends that started to train their flexibility in their late 20's are getting to do it too.I wonder how many of the posters on this board can do the biellmann position. I tried it once myself and figured that you gotta be super flexible to do that.
I wonder how many of the posters on this board can do the biellmann position. I tried it once myself and figured that you gotta be super flexible to do that.
I think what's really creepy is that Mirai and Caroline have such flexible backs that it isn't even a strain for them to practically wrap their spines around the backs of their heads!
I wonder how many of the posters on this board can do the biellmann position. I tried it once myself and figured that you gotta be super flexible to do that.
I don't know - that's a bit like saying "Enough of the layback" because we see a lot of mediocre-to-ugly laybacks. I only get annoyed when a skater has been around long enough to know better but still doesn't improve the spin position, e.g., Fumie Suguri, who has always had an atrocious layback.
Your quad?? Could we have another hint?
But the neck/back injury wouldn't affect her ability to turn out the free foot, would it? (I have no idea, hence the question.) That's one area where I have to agree with Uncle Dick. The toe pointed at the ice looks bad.
Firstly i can't do it i don't have the flexibility, but secondly - it really did put a strain on my back trying.
Well IINM you're a man and IINM men basically can't do the classic layback position because of pelvic issues (leaving aside center of gravity issues).
I've seen men go into very short slightly laybackish positions but I can't think of a man that's ever done a full classic layback.
if the issue is turnout of the free leg generally then men's and women's muscles must feel it in the same way? Perhaps not though.
Well turn out of the free leg is at least partially a function of pelvic structure (I always thought.... I could be wrong I guess).
Also, there seem to be individual differences in ease and degree of turnout.
Overall, females will find turn out to be easier than men though there's going to be a range of variation within women as to how much they can turn out (especially with the leg raised, Kwan for example seemed to be able to get turnout only in the dropped leg position).
There are also training issues. I have the impression that lots of european ladies don't even attempt any turnout (though some could if they had been so trained). I think it's just not part of the way laybacks are trained in some places.
Your quad?? Could we have another hint?