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I was not trying to say that. I said not supposed to judged .... the better.
Nope. Skating to the music is judged. Interpretation of the music is judged. Lines are judges. But art in itself is not judged.
I thonk you are using the word "art" too narrowly. To me, the criteria that you mentioned are part of the "performance art" aspect of skating.
Post 2010 Kostner mostly got higher PCS, yes. 2010 and before, it was Mao, and often by quite big margins.
I was not trying to say that. I said not supposed to judged .... the better.
Lol...I know but you did suggest they judge who performs more. More than who?
Because it isnt who interpret music better what supposed to be judged, but who interpret music more throut the programme and with more commitment.
What I am saying is that "interpreting music more throughout the progarmme and with more commitment" is an aspect of performing art. When we judge performing art, this is the kind of thing that informs our judgement.
Body line (form) is technical. Ability to demonstrate variety and contrast, e.g., with both legato and staccato movement qualities, is technical skill,...
Well, negative aspects can be added as easily.
In fact, I would change some of the bullets, such as flow in and out, and also height and distance, to a scale instead of a checkpoint, so the judge needs to pick one of bad/average/good, for example, where bad subtracts 1 point and good adds one point.
Deductions for URs, stepouts, falls and so on should not be done by judges. They should be computed automatically by the system based on the tech panel evaluation.
As for subjective deductions, there should not be such when evaluating *technical* aspects of skating.
Because "how artistic is it?" is not a criterion for any component.
It isnt who interpret music better what supposed to be judged and also it isnt more beautiful lines what supposed to be judged. Not beauty of performance.
gkelly said:Because "how artistic is it?" is not a criterion for any component.
Baron Vladimir said:That is a point i was trying to say all this time, but i didnt know how to say it.
It's true to say that there are artistic components to figure skating judging.
But that doesn't mean that the point of figure skating judging is to determine how artistic each skater is. "how artistic is it?" is not a criterion for any component.