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ETA: Hmm, this is a comment on Mao's SP that was just posted and removed. Here it is again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgkICQ8oV8o

There is something seriously wrong in a judging system that does not put that skate on top.

Having been a Sasha fan and watched her be ridiculed for years for getting silvers and bronzes instead of golds, I can't even imagine how hard it is for Mao to skate like that and not win. What the heck is the point of mastering that incredibly complex choreography???

But I wish her a FABULOUS free program. Go, Mao! You're the best!
 
A working link to Mao\'s SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgkICQ8oV8o



There is something seriously wrong in a judging system that does not put that skate on top.

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What the heck is the point of mastering that incredibly complex choreography???



I agree. She had the most complex and challenging choreo by far, and yet at the same time the most smooth. All the elements were superb and just so effortlessly flowing from one move to another. The step sequence brought me to tears. How come it does not get lvl4 is beyond me - I think even most of the dancers would have problems executing such complex steps, including twizzles in both direction with hands over head, a twizzle right out of a falling leaf, gorgeous arabesques... And yet it goes with the music so well and does not look like random chopping the ice just for the sake of getting a higher level.

A poster on the Mao forum said that her low score was a result of getting low non-jump elements (lvl1 spiral, lvl2 spin...). Which is sad, because she obviously spent so much time working on those elements, and they looked great and well-timed with the music. I\'m afraid that the choreography, as gorgeous as it is, is at fault here: the moves are so close one to another that missing the timing could easily disrupt the flow and make the moves not go with the music well. Mao chose to ride the music - and I think it was her best performance emotion-wise - but she apparently held the position just not long enough.

It reminded me of a recent performance of Fumie Suguri... As the camera closed on her during the spiral, you could clearly see her lips moving - she was counting the seconds, with the expression of utmost concentration. This was sad to see from a skater who is usually so joyful and expressive in Galas...

I had really liked the idea of CoP, but I\'m getting really annoyed with how it is being implemented. Not so long ago, when I saw a great performance I could say it was a great performance. Now I apparently must rewatch it again with a timer, check the number of revolutions, check the features for levels, wonder (with little success rate) what will be downgraded and what-not... A clean(er), powerful, often more difficult performance does not impress the judges anymore, it is only important that you mind your levels and rotate jumps (even if you fall - see Pairs LP).

I still think CoP could become a great system. But this clinical, mathematical approach makes me think that the judges/TC\'s can\'t see the forest for the trees.
 
I believe Mao got a low level on her spirals because there was a requirement about having at least one position without hand support. At least that's what I heard.
 
I believe Mao got a low level on her spirals because there was a requirement about having at least one position without hand support. At least that\'s what I heard.

And she had one position unassisted - the split one on the back outside edge. She got lvls4 before for this sequence. Unless the rules changed again just before Worlds..? But I think she\'d knew about it then and done arabesque without assist, like she does in LP.
 
A working link to Mao\'s SP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgkICQ8oV8o




I agree. She had the most complex and challenging choreo by far, and yet at the same time the most smooth. All the elements were superb and just so effortlessly flowing from one move to another. The step sequence brought me to tears. How come it does not get lvl4 is beyond me - I think even most of the dancers would have problems executing such complex steps, including twizzles in both direction with hands over head, a twizzle right out of a falling leaf, gorgeous arabesques... And yet it goes with the music so well and does not look like random chopping the ice just for the sake of getting a higher level.

A poster on the Mao forum said that her low score was a result of getting low non-jump elements (lvl1 spiral, lvl2 spin...). Which is sad, because she obviously spent so much time working on those elements, and they looked great and well-timed with the music. I\'m afraid that the choreography, as gorgeous as it is, is at fault here: the moves are so close one to another that missing the timing could easily disrupt the flow and make the moves not go with the music well. Mao chose to ride the music - and I think it was her best performance emotion-wise - but she apparently held the position just not long enough.

It reminded me of a recent performance of Fumie Suguri... As the camera closed on her during the spiral, you could clearly see her lips moving - she was counting the seconds, with the expression of utmost concentration. This was sad to see from a skater who is usually so joyful and expressive in Galas...

I had really liked the idea of CoP, but I\'m getting really annoyed with how it is being implemented. Not so long ago, when I saw a great performance I could say it was a great performance. Now I apparently must rewatch it again with a timer, check the number of revolutions, check the features for levels, wonder (with little success rate) what will be downgraded and what-not... A clean(er), powerful, often more difficult performance does not impress the judges anymore, it is only important that you mind your levels and rotate jumps (even if you fall - see Pairs LP).

I still think CoP could become a great system. But this clinical, mathematical approach makes me think that the judges/TC\'s can\'t see the forest for the trees.
Yes. You've said it very well. The irony with Mao is that she is a true CoP star who does everything the system asks for. And yet an all but invisible flaw can put her behind skaters who, while wonderful and talented, have not put it all together with the degree of difficulty and "effortless" (!) beauty that Mao has been achieving for years now.

On the bright side a lot of the ladies did really, really well and I do give CoP credit for pushing the skaters to outdo themselves. It's a real mixed bag though.
 
And she had one position unassisted - the split one on the back outside edge. She got lvls4 before for this sequence. Unless the rules changed again just before Worlds..? But I think she\'d knew about it then and done arabesque without assist, like she does in LP.

The rules must HAVE been changed right before Worlds based on these results.

Stumbles and falls are actually gaining points based on the positions of Carolina Kostner and Yu Na Kim after the short program (while clean skates like Mao's are getting lower scores).
 
Tracy Wilson said Mao flutzed, but even w/that, those docks on the Levels are odd.

Does anyone have the Medal Ceremony for the Pairs/is it up over at YouTube?
 
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