Sasha
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I felt Sasha deserved the Gold. She was the only one who exhibited any type of emotion and expression. But I guess everyone would have been mad. Shikuza was good but boring.
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But emotion and expression alone do not a champion make. All the emotion in the world cannot make up for THREE mistakes. A heavy fall, then putting down both feet and both hands on the scond jump, then a clear two-footing of the second jump in her sequence, just too many mistakes to EVER justify winning over Shizuka.flying camel said:
I've never been a Sasha fan and I was not rooting for her to win gold but did want her to be on the podium as she is an American. But I have to say, before her LP started I had a lump in my gut and that I have only felt before MK began a program. What's going on with you, I asked myself, you're not a Sasha fan. I was happy Shiz won but I thought Sasha delivered big time after the two jump mistakes. I was moved like hell by her LP and liked it more than Shizuka's in that SA was expressive but expressionless and Sasha skated from the heart the way MK does. It was beautifully choreographed and performed and I thought the point spread between her and Shiz was not reflective and what occured on the ice. And all of her interviews have been paradigms of good sportspersonship. I have in short become a Sasha fan and hope she takes gold at Worlds.
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IDLERACER said:
I would hope they support the religion because of some spiritual value, not as a good luck piece...
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I am so glad to see you post again, Nadine. I always appreciate your perspective and have missed seeing your messages.
Hi busybeemom, 
Well, it looks like you've *never* posted (lol), until now. And I thank you for your kind comment (much appreciated), especially seeing as how you are a senior member & have been around even longer than me, by a few months.^)
Lol, to tell the truth, it just feels like yesterday I used to post here, and I see nothing has changed (both good & bad, the usual).
Taking time off & not following f.s. like I used to, especially after COP's implementation, I'm glad I did so, as watching the Ladies Olympic FS was like watching skating again as kid with fresh unspoiled eyes, and I got to appreciate each & every one. But, that said, when Sasha took the ice, I was literally blown away! And would advise everybody to take a year or more off f.s., then watch, whoa there's nothing like it. Hard to explain, but not being influenced by others' opinions both good & bad, one can watch & *really&truly* appreciate when one sees a phenomenal performance, which Sasha's was. Yes, Miki Ando is a still my favorite skater, but that had nothing to do with how I felt when Sasha became Juliette. Like I said, her single performance alone is what brought me back after a 2 yr. absence (no lie). Nothing else.
What continues to break my heart for her is that she has the capability of being the BEST f.s. in history (bar none, even my all-time favs Sonja, Oksana, Sarah)! This I say b/c no one, and I mean no one can touch her when she's *on*, and that includes doing the difficult jumps. Yet, she never has been *on*. And by that I mean fulfilling the technical part as well. And I'm not just talking about completing 7 triple jumps or adding a 3/3 combo., spin, et al. What I mean by that is she's capable of being the only woman in history to FULLY ROTATE the 4S. Yes, Miki Ando's was ratified as such, but she's never fully rotated it, ever. Whereas Sasha's has not only been fully rotated, but *overrated* (no lie). My tapes nor do my eyes lie.
I'll never give up on Sasha. I seriously don't care if she never wins the Olympic Gold Medal or becomes World Champion, I'd just like to see her complete O-N-E perfect routine, with the 4S, at a major international competition, or Nationals. That's it. Just to show the world that she can do it. I'll send her flowers.
Gotta go, been on too long as it is.
Bye, Nadine
Well, it looks like you've *never* posted (lol), until now. And I thank you for your kind comment (much appreciated), especially seeing as how you are a senior member & have been around even longer than me, by a few months.
^)Lol, to tell the truth, it just feels like yesterday I used to post here, and I see nothing has changed (both good & bad, the usual).
Taking time off & not following f.s. like I used to, especially after COP's implementation, I'm glad I did so, as watching the Ladies Olympic FS was like watching skating again as kid with fresh unspoiled eyes, and I got to appreciate each & every one. But, that said, when Sasha took the ice, I was literally blown away! And would advise everybody to take a year or more off f.s., then watch, whoa there's nothing like it. Hard to explain, but not being influenced by others' opinions both good & bad, one can watch & *really&truly* appreciate when one sees a phenomenal performance, which Sasha's was. Yes, Miki Ando is a still my favorite skater, but that had nothing to do with how I felt when Sasha became Juliette. Like I said, her single performance alone is what brought me back after a 2 yr. absence (no lie). Nothing else.
What continues to break my heart for her is that she has the capability of being the BEST f.s. in history (bar none, even my all-time favs Sonja, Oksana, Sarah)! This I say b/c no one, and I mean no one can touch her when she's *on*, and that includes doing the difficult jumps. Yet, she never has been *on*. And by that I mean fulfilling the technical part as well. And I'm not just talking about completing 7 triple jumps or adding a 3/3 combo., spin, et al. What I mean by that is she's capable of being the only woman in history to FULLY ROTATE the 4S. Yes, Miki Ando's was ratified as such, but she's never fully rotated it, ever. Whereas Sasha's has not only been fully rotated, but *overrated* (no lie). My tapes nor do my eyes lie.
I'll never give up on Sasha. I seriously don't care if she never wins the Olympic Gold Medal or becomes World Champion, I'd just like to see her complete O-N-E perfect routine, with the 4S, at a major international competition, or Nationals. That's it. Just to show the world that she can do it. I'll send her flowers.
Gotta go, been on too long as it is.
Bye, Nadine
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I liked that she acknowledged she was lucky to win the silver. She even realizes what a farce it was, but was gracious enough to recognize that. I agree she is maturing greatly.
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Red Dog said:
She messed up worse than her competitors. She was the only one in the final flight of 6 women with two falls in the final flight. Nowhere but these Olympics would she have beaten Irina with two falls.
slutskayafan21 said:
Now THIS comment ITA with. It was shocking enough that she got a medal, but even more shocking that Irina skated the way she did. I thought (Irina) would have at least gotten silver. That was just unbelieveable!
She still has a chance at the World Championship. Maybe a World title might appease her a bit.
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Red Dog said:
I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am saying this Olympics is the only event the judges would have placed Cohen over Irina with two falls, it has nothing to do with being shocked with Irina's performance, I am not changing one thing about that.
(The comments after my first sentence are my own thought, and had nothing to do with your comment.)
I dunno. I still think it's really odd that Cohen got placed above Slutskaya (especially after the way they've been rewarding Slute with such BIG scores even with mistakes). THAT was the shocker. The judges really set her up on this one, IMO. but in the end, I think the right choice was made.
Maybe a panel with more Eastern countries would have had slute in second place. But what's happened has happened.
I dunno. I still think it's really odd that Cohen got placed above Slutskaya (especially after the way they've been rewarding Slute with such BIG scores even with mistakes). THAT was the shocker. The judges really set her up on this one, IMO. but in the end, I think the right choice was made.
Maybe a panel with more Eastern countries would have had slute in second place. But what's happened has happened.
Not Shocking At All
It's not shocking at all that Sasha placed above Irina with two falls. They both landed 5 triples for starters, and secondly, Sasha's program was light years ahead of Irina's, choreographically. Sasha's spiral sequence is superior and her spins are equal or better than Irina's in all but speed. When you factor in the PCS, it's easy to see how she placed above her. Also, add in the silliness of giving points for a rotated jump that isn't landed and that's why she placed over Irina. Some people feel Fumie should have placed over Irina.
It's not shocking at all that Sasha placed above Irina with two falls. They both landed 5 triples for starters, and secondly, Sasha's program was light years ahead of Irina's, choreographically. Sasha's spiral sequence is superior and her spins are equal or better than Irina's in all but speed. When you factor in the PCS, it's easy to see how she placed above her. Also, add in the silliness of giving points for a rotated jump that isn't landed and that's why she placed over Irina. Some people feel Fumie should have placed over Irina.
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