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That's what I had in mind specifically. ;) I usually like Sigi and Heinrich, but whenever Sigi starts harping on Jason Brown and how much he thinks he's overscored, my blood gets boiling. He doesn't have to worship him, but he shows his dislike so openly, that it's unprofessional. I didn't hear their derogatory comments about Mao you mentioned earlier. Wow...:dev2: At least they're showing their love for Shoma. Well, for most male Japanese skaters for that matter.

They still love Kozuka and mention him and his skating skills. Also Oda and his 'heritage'. Daisuke they also liked, but mainly Kozuka. But they are critical of japanese Men as well. They said Hino (I think) didn't belong at NHK because his level was much too low. Once they complained about Mura's score - saying his PCS was too much, and that he only got this score because he is Japanese. Hendrik Schamberger dislikes Mao. He's the one who said that. It probably goes hand in hand with the fact that he adores Yuna Kim and Mao was her main rival for a while. And don't get me started on their love affair with Carolina Kostner. I often prefer Petra Bindl commentating. She's the most neutral and kindest of the bunch!
 
They mentioned his win at Nationals here, too. I think it would only be fair to mention that Yuzuru was sick. But maybe his status as National Champ will get him NHK this year? Skate America has Nathan Chen....I'm not quite sure which GP's would be best.

I hope he gets France again, so I can see him live this time. :) And he gets good scores in Europe. Not sure about NHK. They'll probably give it to Yuzuru again, because he's still the home favourite. Scoring wise and geographically Cup of China could work out to his advantage. They're usually very supportive of the Japanese skaters there. And he would avoid the jet lag problem. ;)
 
They still love Kozuka and mention him and his skating skills. Also Oda and his 'heritage'. Daisuke they also liked, but mainly Kozuka. But they are critical of japanese Men as well. They said Hino (I think) didn't belong at NHK because his level was much too low. Once they complained about Mura's score - saying his PCS was too much, and that he only got this score because he is Japanese. Hendrik Schamberger dislikes Mao. He's the one who said that. It probably goes hand in hand with the fact that he adores Yuna Kim and Mao was her main rival for a while. And don't get me started on their love affair with Carolina Kostner. I often prefer Petra Bindl commentating. She's the most neutral and kindest of the bunch!

They mentioned him in that regard even at this competition! Yup, they're usually not too kind towards the lower ranked japanese guys. Mura overscored on PCS? Good one! :laugh2: But yeah, all those obvious biases are one of the reasons why I prefer to watch the ISU stream nowadays - it's unfortunate there was none this time. Has Petra still been doing commentary for Eurosport lately?
 
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They mentioned him in that regard even at this competition! Yup, they're usually not too kind towards the lower ranked japanese guys. Mura overscored on PCS? Good one! :laugh2: But yeah, all those obvious biases are one of the reasons why I prefer to watch the ISU stream nowadays - it's unfortunate there was none this time. Has Petra still been doing commentary for Eurosport lately?

The only deduction in PCS I'd give Mura was in his fashion sense! :laugh:
 
I don't agree with them here. I think it was very much a breakthrough year for Shoma. What else would one call a season where he landed on the podium at every competition he entered?

It was just the start of the commentary that I cannot find at the moment. It could be a bit out of a context (okay, there is no context). And I'm not even entirely 100 % that's what he said, I just quickly jotted it down. Hoping to still find it so I can confirm what was said. I'm pretty sure I didn't dream up the commentary, it's got to be somewhere.
Anyway, I *think* what they meant was that he already broke through last season, but...


Yes!! Thanks for the link! Been hoping to catch this at some point. :biggrin:
 
Back and still playing catch up, but wow was Worlds exciting. My dream 1-2 finish for the mens became a reality! My dream win for the pairs. The Shibs still managing to medal. Honestly, I can't really ask for more. I'm glad to have seen Shoma skating at his very best and I'm so happy that he gets to leave Helsinki with a smile, so much better than Boston! After coming back from Japan and Singapore in January, I was so close to cancelling my trip to Helsinki because I just felt so exhausted and the thought of a long trip coming up so soon was one of the last things I wanted to do. I am SO glad I decided to go or I would have regretted it forever. I still have a lot of video and photos to upload but I won't have time to do it until this weekend. It was great to meet some of you guys in here! Next stop for me is possibly Skate America, and definitely PyeongChang.

Looks like Plushenko praised Shoma highly!! Could anyone translate?
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1049830911.html

p.s. Anyone has NBC version of Shoma's worlds? Did Johnny and Tara say anything about him?

The stupid DVR messed up recording the whole thing, but they are doing a recap this weekend so I'll check it out then.
 
I hope he gets France again, so I can see him live this time. :) And he gets good scores in Europe. Not sure about NHK. They'll probably give it to Yuzuru again, because he's still the home favourite. Scoring wise and geographically Cup of China could work out to his advantage. They're usually very supportive of the Japanese skaters there. And he would avoid the jet lag problem. ;)

But isn't there a rule that the three World medalist won't meet at their GP's next season? And they will definitely give Boyang CoC.
 
The stupid DVR messed up recording the whole thing, but they are doing a recap this weekend so I'll check it out then.
Echoing your thoughts on the wonderful outcome for Shomita. And I was thrilled with the pairs competition. For me, it was almost as good as men's. Loved the podium.

So maybe I was not the only one with DVR problems? When I went to watch the men's short, it showed 2 hours of recording but only one hour played, so no final flight!:curse: :gaah: I think they are rerunning the men's short tonight on NBC cable. Men's long came out ok.

Happy for you that you made the trip. It was SO worth it!
 
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Dutch national public television, men’s FS review. The commentator is a general sports commentator who also commentates (among other things, I’m sure) gymnastics, IIRC. Anyway, so a bit of focus on facts, which may or may not be entirely accurate. ;-)

Japan has two men in the top six. This is Shoma Uno (VERY Dutch pronounciation, makes it sound like Shooma Uuno, with the o in Shoma pronounced as a Dutch diphtong [oe] and the U from Uno as the Dutch diphtong [uu]. It sounds really funny! This commentator is rather well-known for his extreme Dutch pronounciation of names.).
Only 19 years old, born in Nagoya where he also trains, 30 hours a week.
Last year he debuted at Worlds, was seventh, but won Japanese nationals this season, and he’s currently second after the SP, with 104.86 so more points than his fellow countryman Yuzuru Hanyu, and he, too, can jump quads, more than one, even.
Quad loop, what do you think of that?! Yes, worth twelve points, and a bonus can be added, yes it becomes 13.40. 13.43, even.
A quad flip! Technically that adds a lot, about 13 points, and with a little, he’ll be at around 27. 26.87.
Oy, the triple lutz, that was a bit less [good].
This is a spin in camel position. And those three spins need to differ from one another. Step sequence. He’s skating to music by Astor Piazolla. Second spin.
If you look at the expression on his face, his eyes, you can see how focused he is. He’s completely there. Triple axel, triple spot (ugh… toeloop, right?). Flawless.
He’s now in the second half of his program. Beautiful position. Executes everything fully, skates with a lot of feeling, lives his skating, his program.
Quad toeloop!., and that in the second half of his program. Beautiful transition here from that spectacular jumping, nice steps, to the ninth element, what will it be, another jump? Quad in combination! Phenomenal!
He can still do a jump, yes, triple, loop in between, and a triple flip, it was, anyway it was three jumps in a row, in combination, and here another one, his last jump element. Yesyesyes, what a joy to watch this! Look at how he speeds up [in the spin] , bringing the body parts close to the axis, then you speed up the turns, and here too, he […] everything around the vertical axis (?), as hard as a boiled egg, then you can rotate very fast [not quite catching every word he’s saying, and I wouldn’t take it too literal, lol]. And here is the discharge (doesn’t translate well, he means when Shoma throws his arms into the air). Unbelievable! Standing ovation, completely justified, look at the fans, all from Japan [rrrright!], and that’s only a part of the audience, yes, the arena is filled to the brim, here in the Hartwall arena in Helsinki, and the audience knows how to appreciate it, just look at everything that’s being thrown onto the ice.
He’s the shortest in this final group, only 1.59 meters, but he skated breathtakingly [beautiful], and everything worked! Pay close attention to the expression on his face, he is so concentrated, he’s on a mission. [some comments about his trainer who skates the entire program together with him, just not physically, *grin*).
[The jumps are] so self-controlled, not a hint of a wobble. Such a talent! And this, [the cantilever?) too, beeeaaautiful, how difficult is that, to place both skates exatly parallel, yeah, and then with [something] legs, and then the relaxation at the end.
The last bit is a a lot of facts about points again, but he comments about Shoma’s SB that “then you really love your sport!” ;-) He is going to a medal position, that’s for sure!
 
But isn't there a rule that the three World medalist won't meet at their GP's next season? And they will definitely give Boyang CoC.

Yes that is correct. I am curious how NHK Trophy will pan out as well as Skate America.

Yes, there is. I forgot about it. :o: (Sorry, Boyang :slink:) I got no more preferences then, apart from France. Maybe Rostelecom is the next best option, but it all depends on what the overall fields will look like.
 
NBC comments on FS -- Tara, Johnny, Terry Gannon -- This is the quietest these guys have ever been! :clapper: :cheer2: We actually got to enjoy the music. This isn't word for word but is close.

Tara: Never count Shoma out -- technically brilliant, he had a great short.
Johnny: He skates with so much passion, is very unique, and really feels the music from head to toe. Opening with a 4Lo.
Tara: Another different quad -- 4F, holds on.
Johnny: Ah, a crazy mistake on the 3Lz - one of the easier jumps in comparison to the quads...Men's skating has evolved so much. Many of the top skaters (like Shoma) have added new quads to be competitive in mid-season. That is rarely seen.
Tara: Gorgeous 3A - 3T out of spread eagle. Very deep knees on his landing. Setting up for the 4T - slight turn out. Sometimes he gets so deep in his knees and gets such height that it's hard to control the landing.
Johnny: This next three-jump jumping pass is SO difficult because he stops the body's momentum entirely before the 2nd jump (3F).
Tara: Shoma is looking for redemption this year, since he missed the podium at last year's competition.
Terry: And with a swagger at the end! This isn't just a competition - this is taking the sport to the next level.
Johnny: This is surreal. The amount of quads and artistry in men's figure skating has never been more exciting.
Terry: We could have two men from Japan on the podium.
Johnny: He really sold his heart through the whole program. That was very exciting!

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BBC comments on FS -- Robin Cousins & lady ? Don't know who the lady is. LOVE that they barely speak during the skating except to say what the jumps were.

Lady: He has what it takes to knock his countryman off the top spot. Can he do it?
Robin: What a performance - everything draws you in and is spellbinding. The music, costume, choreography all grab your attention. He didn't let any mistakes interfere with the performance.
Lady: There were a couple stumbles, but you quickly forget about it!
Robin: He had some cracking combinations.
Lady: He pings up off the ice like a jack in the box.
Robin: The Japanese skaters have spring in their knees. He snaps perfectly in the timing in terms of what it needs to be...His 3 jump combo is exquisite. There is such an intensity in his face - he so believes in what he is doing. His final step sequence is a level 4, no question.
 
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Charlie White was with Jackie Wong of Rockerskating on Ice Talk. They spoke for about 25 minutes, but here is the section with their comments regarding Shomita:

Charlie: Then there’s Shoma, who is so young, and the story I keep coming back to is - I watched Shoma's programs early in the season and kept thinking – he is too young to skate to these programs. He is not mature enough, especially for the long program. I knew that Stephane did it (!? choreographed it? (my note) and did it like he would have skated it himself. No one can live up to that. Stephane is just at the limit of being able to skate it. The next competition Shoma was doing it in a way that would rival Stephane’s ability, along with a technical level which Stephane could never get to. He practices like a wild man, and yet in competition is able to focus to such a degree that you would never doubt his ability at any point during the program. That is incredible and is something special.

Jackie: What I liked about him this year – last year he practiced with a scowl on his face. This year when he was practicing – he fell, he popped jumps. He was shaking it off. If you were to tell me he would land a clean 4Lo and 4F in the free skate based on what he was doing in practice, I would have said No way! I was also sure he was thinking about this--He was 2 pts away from the gold (by stepping out on the 3Lz) Of course if Yuzu had skated a clean short, different story. He also proved he can be competitive with Yuzu at an international competition, when Yuzu is at his best.

(Note - very interesting that Charlie says that Stephane "did it". Does that mean choreographed the program? That's the first time I have ever heard anyone say that.)
 
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^^@Arriba I listened to the podcast earlier and I caught that part too about Stephane. I know Shoma visited Stephan earlier in the season but I thought it was
for lesson/pointers on his Loco program. This is the first I heard that Stephane did the choreography for Loco.
 
^^^Just saw that this was posted on the Tumblr account. Didn't mean to duplicate it. I thought it seemed very strange, because it was as if there was no doubt in Charlie's mind that Stephane choreographed it. My understanding was that Mihoko-sensei had choreographed it but then Stephane gave him pointers, just as you said. I remember wondering if they would show Stephane as a co-choreographer. I guess it's not that crucial to know, but I was just curious. That was a very interesting podcast. They talk a lot about ice dance, but there is other interesting stuff. It's #27 if anyone cares to listen. http://web.icenetwork.com/fans/icetalk
 
NBC SN comments on SP -- Tanith White and Ryan Bradley. They were nice and quiet during the skating!

During the group warmup:
T: Now we take a look at Shoma Uno. No World medal yet, but he’s poised to make a breakthrough with what he’s got in his “tool belt”.

R:We haven’t even spoken about him yet. This guy has the goods. He’s a prolific quad jumper, he’s a beautiful skater, he understands the music. I did a show with him earlier this year and watched him land 5 quads in a show program under spotlights. He has a ton of confidence.

R: Opening with the second most difficult jumping pass – 4F. Just beautiful! Where we’ve seen little mistakes in the past are the tight landings, making it difficult to add the 3T on for the combination. No problems today. 3A, a little to the outside, but right back into the choreography.

T.: Well, it’s tough enough to follow an Olympic champion but it’s even tougher to outskate him. In my opinion that absolutely did.

R: In all facets -- he jumped better, his program is stronger in my opinion, he was spinning very fast at the end, he has a unique entrance into the combo spin. He is such a talent. I know there’s a lot of hype around Yuzuru Hanyu, as there should be. But Shoma is so well rounded. We talked last year that between him and Boyang , Boyang is the better jumper. Shoma was the more complete package. Now all of a sudden, Shoma is adding the quads to the repertoire and he is growing as an artist still.

T. It was a beautifully complex program too with so much content frankly, compared to Yuzuru’s.

R: What’s really amazing to me is this entire program he’s in character, he’s so strong, he has this amazing presence. The moment the music stopped, he pumped his fist and had this little smile on his face, and he looked like the youngster he is, just enjoying the moment. It’s incredible to me to be able to portray such strength and confidence, because we often forget how young these guys are. The poise to be able to do this at a World Championship is just incredible.

T.: Some of those landings like we saw there on the 3A with that open free hip are what often gets him into trouble, but today he was able to hang on.

R: It definitely makes things a little harder. When you are adding on a 3T for a combo, you have to be able to fight a little harder. If he can learn to control those landings, I can’t even imagine what he is capable of. Being able to do those things with that tendency on the landing is amazing.
 
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