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Arriba627 said:
Great explanation. I think Kenji really understands Shoma, and I've often wondered how his choreography would work for Sho. I know he's done a few things for Keiji, and the idea of them collaborating intrigues me.
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I think that Shoma should work with Kenji. I know that he is on board with Fluffy for his competitive programs but an
Exhibition program by Kenji would be nice.
 
I agree i would love to see a Kenji program for Shoma but Sho might not want the direct comparison with Daisuke. Besides, Shoma has become a lot more confident/relaxed etc. but i still feel he is kinda uncomfortable with really out there Japanese guys like Kenji or Nobu. Maybe just my impression.
 
I'm no professional translator, all mistakes are mine. No offense intended!

German Eurosport, Original Commentary, Shoma Uno LP, Worlds 2018, Milan
Petra Bindl, Hendryk Schamberger

During Warmup

P)etra Bindl: I'm curious what Shoma Uno will do, it seemed to me a little like he spent the last weeks after the Olympics partying instead of being able to train. Together with Yuzuru Hanyu, both Japanese went home with Gold and Silver medals.

(H)endryk Schamberger: Yes, with the media interest in Japan there were definitely a lot of appointments to do, and that surely must've reduced his training time. But I'm sure Shoma Uno will get to the front, a medal, I wouldn't put that past him, winning will be hard. Depends on Vincent Zhou....

(Talk about the American men)

P: Uno plans, like at the Olympics and other competitions before, four Quadruples, the Flip, the Toeloop and the Loop. Will he show the Salchow too in the long?

H: No.

P: He's not having it planned. He planned it in the short, and there it was only the triple, that was his problem, triple Salchow, double toeloop, he collected many deductions, for the first time this season he decided against the quad Flip, he chose the Toeloop in the short. He should've jumped the Flip instead.

H: Yes, but you gotta say, what a skater plans to do and what he really does often differs. The top skaters, they have no problem, deciding in the last practice, ah, I'm going to do the Flip or the Salchow or whatever. He has the complete palette at his disposal.

Start LP

P: He has to attack now, flat out, Shoma Uno the Japanese, basically he had the perfect starting position after the Olympics, after the other two medal winners are not starting here, with Yuzuru Hanyu his compatriot, and Javier Fernandez, that he would take the title here would've been the biggest coup of his career, but ranked 5th after the short program, it will be hard winning the title, but yesterday we've seen it's possible when Kaetlyn Osmond jumped from 4th to 1st. First he has to deliver and do his job, with a preferably faultless program.

H: Yes, six points, that's not a lot, the best score is around 200 points, 6 points don't play a part . But the jumps do play a part and the first one was a miss, now he is far away from the Gold, perhaps he will still be able to get Bronze.

So, now he really has to fight, the third spot of the Japanese men for next year is in danger.

P: One thing one has to say: He doesn't give up! Well, the things he knocked out at the end there, well others would have given up and said, now it all doesn't matter anymore, but he showed the Quad Toeloop still, this great triple Axel, half loop, triple Flip and of course at the end a triple triple combination, put a Toeloop at the end of the Salchow, well these were really point bearers, so that he, even with that many mistakes, mistakes that we are not used to see from Shoma Uno, still reaches 100 points in the technical score.

H: Yes, exactly. Well, puh!

P: It is.....

H: It is....he will narrowly win the free, eh, it's important not to forget he will get a 3 point deduction because of the falls. Eh, the points are already getting lower, because the Loop wasn't round. That means he will get a downgrade, we will surely see this in slo-motion.

Yes, hard fight. Eh, and the problem remains, because the other Japanese weren't that good. Eh...

P: But Tomono...

H: Yes that's why. But he has to be 5th, at least.

P: Well, he will be.

H: To, eh, keep the third spot.

P: He will stay in front of Bychenko.

H: Bychenko..yes, he will stay in front of Bychenko. Lucky for him. That's right, he stays in front of Bychenko. So he saved the third spot, minimum goal reached.

P: But didn't travel to Milan with the goal to become 5th, he wanted to win, but that didn't work out in the short already. The season was incredibly long, he had great successes, this would've been the final coronation, exactly, you said it, in practices he didn't seem very tired at all to you.

H: Yes, during practice he was normal, I would say, and all the coaches I talked to, they said, Uno will win that thing, But....

P: Yes, skating skill wise he is the best by far.

H: Yes.

P: Since there is no Hanyu, no Fernandez one must really say that nobody skates as beautiful as him.

H: Yes, yes.

P: Well, this is really something that I hope will pay off, that he will get the highest program component scores thus far.

H: Exactly. At the moment his compatriot Tomono leads in the free, he won't get or he didn't get as high in the program components, so this means Uno will presumably win the Free, and take the lead, and that means the third spot is saved, and the others still have to skate. Yes.

P: Well, he won the free, but of course with a score that is very, very far away from his personal best which is 214, 97 points. So this is a score unfamiliar to him, in the short as in the long.
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German Original

Warmup

P)etra Bindl: Ich bin gespannt was Shoma Uno macht, er hat auf mich ein bisschen gewirkt, als dass die Wochen nach Olympia wahrscheinlich er mehr gefeiert wurde, als dass er noch trainieren konnte. Gemeinsam mit Yuzuru Hanyu, die beiden Japaner ja mit Gold und Silber nach Hause geflogen.

(H)endryk Schamberger: Ja bei dem Medieninteresse in Japan hatte er definitiv viele Termine, noch zu erledigen, das hat sicherlich Trainingszeit reduziert. Aber ich bin mir sicher Shoma Uno kommt noch nach vorne. Medaille traue ich ihm noch zu, gewinnen wird schwer. Es hängt natürlich auch an Vincent Zhou....

Reden über die Amerikaner

Petra Bindl: Auch Uno plant hier wie bei Olympia oder auch den Meisterschaften zuvor vier Vierfache unter anderem den Flip, den Toeloop und den Rittberger. Zeigt er den Salchow hier auch in der Kür?

H: Nein.

P: Hat er jetzt nicht geplant. Hat er im Kurzprogramm geplant hat er nur dreifach gezeigt, das war das Problem, dreifach Salchow, Doppel Toeloop, da hat er viele Abzüge kassiert., hat sich erstmals in dieser Saison gegen den vierfachen Flip entschieden. Im Kurzprogramm den Toeloop gewählt Hatte er mal den Flip gesprungen.

H: Ja, wobei man sagen muss, das was die Läufer planen und was sie letztendlich machen dann doch sehr differiert. Die Top Läufer für die ist das kein Problem im letzten Training zu entscheiden, ach heute mach ich mal lieber den Flip oder den Salchow oder was auch immer. Er hat die komplette Palette zur Verfügung.

Start LP

P: Er muss jetzt natürlich volle Pulle angreifen, Shoma Uno, der Japaner, er hatte eigentlich eine perfekte Ausgangsposition nach Olympia, nachdem die anderen beiden Medaillengewinner nicht am Start sind mit Yuzuru Hanyu seinem Landsmann und Javier Fernandez, dass er sich hier den WM Titel holt, es wäre der bislang höchste Coup seiner Karriere gewesen, aber Rang 5 nach dem Kurzprogramm, da wird es schwer mit dem Titel, aber gestern sind wir auch eines besseren belehrt worden, da ist Kaetlyn Osmond von der vier auf die eins gesprungen. Er muss jetzt erst mal seinen Job erfüllen mit einem möglichst fehlerfreien Programm.

H: Ja, sechs Punkte, das ist nicht viel, die Bestleistung die sind ja so um die 200 Punkte, da spielen 6 jetzt nicht so ne Rolle. Aber die Sprünge spielen ne Rolle und da ging der erste schon daneben, jetzt ist er weit weg von Gold, vielleicht schafft er noch ne Bronze.

So jetzt muss er wirklich kämpfen, jetzt gerät auch der dritte Startplatz der Japaner für das nächste Jahr in Gefahr.

P: Eins muss man wirklich sagen: Er gibt nicht auf! Also das was er da jetzt am Ende jetzt noch rausgehauen hat, also andere hätten sich da wirklich aufgegeben und gesagt, jetzt ist es auch schone egal, aber dann hat er den vierfachen Toeloop noch gezeigt, er hat diese tolle dreifach Axel- Toureen-dreifach Flip und dann natürlich noch hintenraus eine dreifach-dreifach Kombination an den Salchow noch einen Toeloop drangehangen, also das waren noch mal richtige Punktebringer, so dass er trotz dieser vielen, vielen Fehler, die wir gar nicht gewohnt sind von Shoma Uno immer noch auf etwa 100 Punkte kommt im technischen Wert.

H: Ja, genau. Also...puh!

P: Es is...

H: Das ist..er wird gerade so die Kür gewinnen, ihm, man darf nicht vergessen er kriegt noch 3 Punkte abgezogen wegen den Stürzen. Ähm, die Punktzahl da hat sich schon verringert, weil eben der Rittberger nicht auf rückwärts gelandet war. Das heisst das wurde ihm abgewertet, bin ich mir sicher werden wir auch noch mal in der Zeitlupe sehen.

Ja, harter Kampf. Ähm, und das Problem bleibt bestehen, dadurch das die anderen Japaner nicht so gut waren, äh...

P: Obwohl Tomono...

H: Ja eben. Aber er muss ja mindestens fünfter werden.

P: Also das wird er.

H: Um ähm, den dritten Startplatz zu erhalten.

P: Vor Bychenko bleibt er.

H: Bychenko..ja, vor Bychenko bleibt er, hat er Glück gehabt. Stimmt. Ja vor Bychenko bleibt er. Also der dritte Startplatz den hat er noch gerettet, das Minimalziel.

P: Aber er ist natürlich nicht mit Platz 5 Zielen hier nach Mailand gekommen, er wollte hier gewinnen aber das lief schon im Kurzprogramm nicht so rund. Und die Saison war natürlich wahnsinnig lang, er hat tolle Erfolge gehabt, das wäre jetzt ein krönender Abschluss gewesen, ganz klar, du hast es gesagt, im Training hat er nicht den Eindruck auf dich gemacht als das er sehr müde wäre.

H: Ja, im Training war er eigentlich normal, würde ich sagen und auch viele Trainer mit denen ich gesprochen habe, haben gesagt, der Uno, der holt das hier. Aber...

P: Ja, vom läuferischen ist er mit Abstand der Beste.

H: Ja.

P: Da kein Hanyu da ist, da kein Fernandez da ist muss man einfach sagen, keiner läuft schöner wie er.

H: Ja. Ja.

P: Also das ist jetzt wirklich etwas, wo ich jetzt auch hoffe das es sich in den Programmkomponenten auszahlt, das er da die höchsten bekommt bislang.

H: Genau. Bislang in Führung in der Kür liegt sein Landsmann Tomono, der wird aber in den Programmkomponenten oder hat nicht so viel bekommen, das heisst Uno wird die Kür vermutlich sogar noch gewinnen, in Führung gehen und dann ist der dritte Startplatz schonmal gesichert, und die anderen müssen ja auch nochmal laufen. Ja.

P: Also er hat die Kür gewonnen, aber natürlich mit einer Benotung wo weit weg ist von seiner persönlichen Bestleistung die bei 214, 97 Punkten liegt. Also das sind Punkte der nicht kennt, sowohl im Kurzprogramm als auch in der Kür.
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daphenaxa said:
I agree i would love to see a Kenji program for Shoma but Sho might not want the direct comparison with Daisuke. Besides, Shoma has become a lot more confident/relaxed etc. but i still feel he is kinda uncomfortable with really out there Japanese guys like Kenji or Nobu. Maybe just my impression.
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I know when Sho was on Kenji's room, I thought the teasing was a bit much. Then I realized they were pretty friendly with each other. And they've done ice shows together. It will be interesting to see what the future holds. I see that Romain Haguenauer and Pasquale Camerlengo both coached Kenji at one point. He's an interesting character, no doubt.
 
Fluffy had Stephanie worked with her on the Winter, so there's hope that she will ask Kenji for a collaboration, crossing my finger. I think they will come up with an interesting program for sure.

Also agreed it might be good for Shoma to have a jump specialist on his team all year round until his quads are more stable. Maybe that's why his cleanest performance was at Lombardia, when he was relatively fresh from the jump camp.
 
Arriba627 said:
Welcome to Shoma's thread. His spins are so amazing, especially his headless spins. I love it when he spins so fast he really does look headless. [emoji23]
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Gah his spins. I love how fast he is. Whenever I watch other men doing their spins I'll be like "speed it up bro".
 
Arriba627 said:
Here was a beauty. Don't know if you can open the link. And he was so close I almost could have touched him! And when he doesn't travel, it's REALLY a thing of beauty.
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share...C4svD1vZztTyMZ/gallery/RifpzZYWO0WM84cIAK1aSA
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Wow! This is quite lovely. I love this program and the final spin. Thanks for sharing.

When he performed it at Worlds this year -- I was surprised he was even performing because he seriously should have been in bed resting that ankle -- it was such a beautiful, bittersweet performance. But his control over every part of his body to make the music come to life was outstanding.

I know he gets compared to Daisuke Takahashi a lot, and I can see Dai's influence in Shoma's skating. But when I watch programs like "See You Again" I just see Shoma.
 
It is a shame that the SOI show that Shoma performed This Town again was not the one broadcast. I hope that some fans there recorded it.
 
Apparently, they'll show the See You Again where he rolled on the ice and laid on his stomach for a bit, so I wouldn't mind seeing that. Haha.

Welcome, mresundance! I think I saw your account on Twitter. ☺
 
Latremu said:
Apparently, they'll show the See You Again where he rolled on the ice and laid on his stomach for a bit, so I wouldn't mind seeing that. Haha.

Welcome, mresundance! I think I saw your account on Twitter. ☺
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Thank you! Yes I am very active on Twitter.

Is that Mihoko in your icon? :D
 
Thank you for all the translations! All of them are professional tbh :-) As mentioned by others it's really nice to know how foreign commentators think about Shoma. Not only German one but I also want to thank another fans who translated Russian comment to English.

Regarding most commentators not knowing about Shoma's injury, I think it's because it's "unofficial" (Shoma decided not mentioning/ admitting it and it was not officially announced), also we can see the difference between Japan and foreign media. No matter what, how Shoma fought back in the later half of FP could be witnessed and felt by EVERYONE.

"H: Yes that's why. But he has to be 5th, at least."
-> Not your problem of translation but it's the mistake by the commentator :P Shoma only needs to be sixth for Japan to grab 3 spots


MaiKatze said:
I'm no professional translator, all mistakes are mine. No offense intended!

German Eurosport, Original Commentary, Shoma Uno LP, Worlds 2018, Milan
Petra Bindl, Hendryk Schamberger



German Original
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I also find it interesting that Petra thought Shoma was partying (i.e. appearing for interviews with media) instead of training. Maybe that was meant to be a joke?
 
gacchan said:
Thank you for all the translations! All of them are professional tbh :-) As mentioned by others it's really nice to know how foreign commentators think about Shoma. Not only German one but I also want to thank another fans who translated Russian comment to English.

Regarding most commentators not knowing about Shoma's injury, I think it's because it's "unofficial" (Shoma decided not mentioning/ admitting it and it was not officially announced), also we can see the difference between Japan and foreign media. No matter what, how Shoma fought back in the later half of FP could be witnessed and felt by EVERYONE.

"H: Yes that's why. But he has to be 5th, at least."
-> Not your problem of translation but it's the mistake by the commentator :P Shoma only needs to be sixth for Japan to grab 3 spots
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I agree Shoma did not want to make it an issue, I think like other nagging injuries that Chris Howarth (B.Esp) stated that he had in past. I believe Japan Fed did make statement about injury to Japanese media after he left practice early, but probably not well known to non-Japanese media due to communication issues or not important to them?? I know US media did not know or report some of other skaters with injuries--like Gabby Daleman, but knew about Dabin's boot problems and foot pain during SP, before she withdrew. But then super figure skating fans only pay attention to this and since the sport is not as popular in US, I don't think that the US media do not make as much effort with knowing things about non- US skaters.
 
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