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I suspect Shomatitis... :scratch2:
Dr. Hronop, I really must correct your diagnosis. We don't have Shomatitis, we have Shomaphilia. Or Shomaddiction, if you will. [emoji1]

Welcome, lariko! Enjoy! The irony is, even if we treat the patients in the ShoSPatal, we actually don't cure them. We support their condition. 🤣

His schedule is crazy. No time to relax! Off to Japan to resume training and practice! (And some ankle rest, hopefully).
 
Dr. Hronop, I really must correct your diagnosis. We don't have Shomatitis, we have Shomaphilia. Or Shomaddiction, if you will. [emoji1]

Welcome, lariko! Enjoy! The irony is, even if we treat the patients in the ShoSPatal, we actually don't cure them. We support their condition. ��

His schedule is crazy. No time to relax! Off to Japan to resume training and practice! (And some ankle rest, hopefully).

Shomaddiction yup! Dr. H, time to amend our diagnosis ;)
Btw, I think the best treatment for Shomaddiction is...receiving more news/ pictures/ updates from Shoma!

Latremu, don't worry, Shoma knows he needs to rest cox he just told the media "the most important (preparation for WC2019) is not making himself injured" (ofc he emphasis practice as well...we know practice is as important as breathing/ gaming/ sleeping for him!)
-> added: after his FS, Shoma said "I will work hard after I go back to Japan": https://twitter.com/bebesho17/status/1095294112817926144 (around 0'36")
p.s. in the same video around 1'33", it showed the media waited for Shoma, the announcer said there were around 100ppl
 
The Prince is back in Japan :)

https://twitter.com/vividviolet3513/status/1095235580927959041?s=20 - interview, maybe someone will translate

Nittere's official HP has post full video, just enjoy Shoma's face and his voice no matter you understand Japanese or not!
http://www.news24.jp/articles/2019/02/12/09416837.html

From NHK news web:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20190212/k10011812591000.html

I may do further translation if there's no other fans done that yet (I am slow hehe)
 
Ah, whatever is the correct technical term, the condition must not be suffered alone.

It is not against the rules to ask how he’d done in the nationals? I had not found a way to watch that, so I was wondering if someone could tell me? I gathered from your conversation that Uno injured himself (best healing vibes to him) but how did Japanese nationals ended up this year for him?

Or just toss me a link to a decent summary article, in English?

Thank you in advance!
 
Ah, whatever is the correct technical term, the condition must not be suffered alone.

It is not against the rules to ask how he’d done in the nationals? I had not found a way to watch that, so I was wondering if someone could tell me? I gathered from your conversation that Uno injured himself (best healing vibes to him) but how did Japanese nationals ended up this year for him?

Or just toss me a link to a decent summary article, in English?

Thank you in advance!
Here are the videos of his 2018 Nationals performances:
Short program https://youtu.be/7lyrgVjGJbw
Long program https://youtu.be/Jss9yWDMnu8

And here's the official Japanese nationals results for the men:
https://www.jsfresults.com/non_resp...m,National/2018-2019/fs_e/nationals/index.htm

Thanks for the earlier links and translations, gacchan!!
 
Simon still thinks that Mihoko is Machiko :laugh:

I wanted to add, I'm so glad to see the return of the Big Hug :) after a great skate!
 
Not sure if anyone has been listening to the Bridgestone Ice Desk previews or post-skate reviews. If you go into You Tube and do a search for Bridgestone Ice Desk, you find a lot of videos. I found the one on the Men's Free Skate very interesting, especially the comments about the Prince's FS. Panelists were Brook Castile, Michael Weiss, Ashley Wagner, and Nick McCarvel.

NM: Let's start off with Shoma Uno. He came in in 4th place after the short. But this FS, from the opening notes of the music we were wondering how was the ankle going to hold up. He came out and there was no doubt about his skating.

MW: He was about 9 points behind Vincent Zhou and we talked about the places he can make it up in his component score. This program is just really well performed, well executed, he uses this quiet subtlety to his advantage. We talk sometimes that the most powerful thing is silence, and this program has a silent element to it that is just really powerful. And when he hit that opening 4F, that was the one that was going to be the question for him. The 4Ts have been awesome all week. Those elements were the ones he was sure of. The flip was the one we were concerned about. When he got past that, he was home free.

AW: But I think it was also his skating qualities. This is really difficult music to skate to because, quite honestly, it can either create something so captivating and commanding or it can be really boring. You have to be perfect for this to be really good, and he delivered today. The quality of spins, his edges. He hits every little nuance there is in the music, and it's just so interesting to watch as a viewer. I appreciate every moment of this program beyond the quads that he did phenomenally tonight.

NM: And this was (Sho falls to the ground on the video) -- come on! You can see how much it meant to him.

BC: I think that skating through an injury, you have to give him a lot of credit for being able to not let that injury affect the jumps, even though he didn't look like he was comfortable. He really didn't, on every jump he was a little bit off and he nailed every one still -- and that's really hard to do, and that's why he won tonight. He is in a class of his own, even if he isn't at his best.

NM: We were saying coming in he has an ankle injury that has been lingering all season. But he's got the 4F. Jackie Wong pointed out to us that he just started to get the 4F in practice just in the last day or so and the fact that he nailed that to open the program, then it felt like the flood gates kind of opened.

MW: That was the big ticket item, the hurdle he needed to get over. When he did that, like I said, he was home free after that because the toes have been perfect in practice, and the 4F was the big hurdle he had to get over.

NM: Ashley, you've been in the arena for a lot of Shoma skates in your career. You were up in the rafters. How did it feel up top of the arena? Ringside, it felt to me like he was skating one of his best programs. It's certainly a personal best, but it felt like one of the best skates of his career.

AW: Absolutely. I think watching it, you felt like you were watching something special tonight. You felt like you were watching a huge accomplishment for him. Coming into this FS, he was in a position he wasn't quite used to. He was supposed to skate away with this, no problem. And then going into the FS he was in 4th, especially for an event where he doesn't necessarily get all that much out of it. I could imagine it's hard to find the drive to push yourself through the FS. I'm so impressed with what he was able to put together considering he was injured, coming from behind. He only had everything to lose and not much to gain -- but he claimed that title.

MW: It also has to be good for him, because with the injury, the 4F is the one that hurts him the most and so for him, to hit that here knowing he HAS to have it when goes to Worlds in Japan, knowing he can do that now, he can feel more comfortable for Worlds.
 
Thank you very much Arriba for transcribing the Bridgestone Ice Desk interview! And I do agree, they discuss interesting things about the Men's FS, especially this part at the beginning. Also interesting is Ashley's point of view since she was still competing until very recently, so I presume she has a skater's perspective on choice of music:

MW: He was about 9 points behind Vincent Zhou and we talked about the places he can make it up in his component score. This program is just really well performed, well executed, he uses this quiet subtlety to his advantage. We talk sometimes that the most powerful thing is silence, and this program has a silent element to it that is just really powerful. And when he hit that opening 4F, that was the one that was going to be the question for him. The 4Ts have been awesome all week. Those elements were the ones he was sure of. The flip was the one we were concerned about. When he got past that, he was home free.

AW: But I think it was also his skating qualities. This is really difficult music to skate to because, quite honestly, it can either create something so captivating and commanding or it can be really boring. You have to be perfect for this to be really good, and he delivered today. The quality of spins, his edges. He hits every little nuance there is in the music, and it's just so interesting to watch as a viewer. I appreciate every moment of this program beyond the quads that he did phenomenally tonight.

I have... thoughts, about Moonlight Sonata (or, in its official name, Piano Sonata No. 14) and how it's used in figure skating, but, ever since that fateful day when Shoma announced that he will use it for his free skate this season, I was intrigued. I'm a pianist, and my point of view is that Moonlight Sonata is a very, very difficult music to skate to or to make a program out of. Of course, it has been used by many skaters, even this season Shoma shares the choice of music with plenty of skaters- and there have been some programs by top skaters and top choreographers that don't just win many medals, but also is universally acclaimed.

It's still a difficult music to skate to, and honestly not a lot of programs (universally acclaimed or otherwise) get the music cut right.

What impressed me the most is how Mihoko (and Shoma) structured this free skate. Musically. Even before it was adjusted to fit the 4:00 time limit, it already did what most of the programs didn't do, which is not cutting the First Movement abruptly to Third Movement in order to fit elements into the program. I believe Mihoko is one of the most musically-inclined choreographer currently working (choice of eclectic music notwithstanding... in my eyes, it somehow solidifies her credibility XD) but I've had enough bad MS cuts to wince at. So that's nice. But by having the First Movement takes so much time, with it comes another challenge: how do you sustain the crowd's and judges' attention to this program? The First Movement of MS is one of the most beautiful and recognizable melody in the world, but it's also very repetitive and with the wrong energy, you can sleep it off and think of it as boring.

That's why I thought it was a bold decision when it was announced. I don't think Shoma has ever dealt with this kind of music (the closest programs I think he has to MS is... This Town and SYA, weirdly. Even Kreutzer/Violin Sonata No. 9, which shares the same composer, has more edge, dynamic and drama to it) so the fact that Mihoko just gives it to him is almost like a challenge? Because making the competition cut of MS to be compelling is a pretty difficult thing to ask. It's structured beautifully, though. Every single element may not be full of innovative movement or creative entries/transitions but it just amplifies the music in a subtle, beautiful way. It's like the approach was not how to use this music for this program but how to structure this program with the music in a way that can elevate both Shoma's skating, the elements, and MS itself. Heck, even the ChSq is a subtle, beautiful thing: the spreadeagle carves a crescent moon on the ice (bonus point: the spreadeagle move itself is called "luna" in Italian figure skating terms...)

Even when the program is structured beautifully (it gets adjusted and simplified here and there, but it's never gone directly against the music to the point that it created actual dissonance), there's still one more aspect: Shoma himself. The way this program is, how Mihoko lets the music be, it leaves Shoma with no choice but to fill the silence with his presence. And with this kind of music (I used to doubt the Ashkenazy choice, I thought Shoma would be better served with a wilder interpretation of MS- Nobuyuki Tsujii's came to mind, but since Japanese Nationals, I came to realize that maybe the Ashkenazy choice was the right way to go- it challenges Shoma to meet it instead of meeting him) it asks him to be... soft, delicate but powerful. Full of presence but also hollow, in a way that haunts the entire arena. Almost... otherworldly, when one of the most defining characteristic of Shoma's skating is that it's so grounded.

That's why I didn't really worry about MS being another warhorse (therefore, Shoma is playing it safe) because it's a really different breed of warhorse compared to Turandot, which is identical to pomp and bombast, or even Lavender, with the wailing strings full of emotion, or Winter, full of almost an avant-garde sense of edge and drama and frosty branches. It's such a different sound, a different challenge, that I thought it can challenge Shoma to find a certain quality within him that he hasn't really bring out before.

And it's such a joy, to see how MS has grown with each competition. Every subtle nuance Shoma is hitting better and better, the connection he has with the music, the way he just sinks down into this different, still world (the Moon? Or the still lake where the Moon is reflected?) the moment the music starts and brings the entire arena with him. TSL has their review on 4CC up, and they refer to all Men's Program as jumping drills (because of the lack of transitions) and they hilariously refer to MS as a very beautiful jumping drill XD Like... sure, MS isn't a bastion of creative transitions and variety of entries and abundance of choreographic moments. But Mihoko and Shoma makes it its own unique thing. And it's beautiful, and difficult, and represents a different challenge to overcome, and I honestly feel that if it's not Shoma and Mihoko, this program might not even work at all, much less set a World Record. It truly demands total trust, restraint, commitment and conviction to the music. I feel like it's a different beast entirely, and I hope we can see Shoma with it at their peak, in Worlds.

TL;DR Moonlight Sonata is a difficult music to skate to, and I love what Mihoko and Shoma did with it.

Edited to add: As I wrote this post, the First Movement started playing on my Spotify XD
 
^^^Given the depth of your post, I think they need to add you to the panel! :laugh: So interesting to hear you're a pianist. I'm sure that makes you bring a completely different perspective on how he uses the nuances and subtleties of the music...I know a lot of people thought "Oh no!" :dumb: when they heard of his music choice for the season. I never felt that way. I could immediately close my eyes and envision him skating to that haunting music! :bow:

I wonder what surprises they have up their sleeves for next year. (Oops, too early to be thinking about that! Sorry! :bang:)...TSL had some very interesting comments too.
 
^^^Given the depth of your post, I think they need to add you to the panel! :laugh: So interesting to hear you're a pianist. I'm sure that makes you bring a completely different perspective on how he uses the nuances and subtleties of the music...I know a lot of people thought "Oh no!" :dumb: when they heard of his music choice for the season. I never felt that way. I could immediately close my eyes and envision him skating to that haunting music! :bow:

I wonder what surprises they have up their sleeves for next year. (Oops, too early to be thinking about that! Sorry! :bang:)...TSL had some very interesting comments too.

Hhshshshshssh my reaction was like, "OH MY GOD, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS shshhshshs SHOMA PLEASE DON'T DIE, MIHOKO PLEASE DON'T KILL THE MUSIC, I BELIEVE IN BOTH OF YOU" *clasps hands in prayer*

I don't know, I just thought it's a particularly difficult choice! Especially coming in from Winter/Turandot combo which has none of the quality MS has. I was like "Is Shoma ready for this? OMG does Mihoko thinks he's ready for this?" Because I have a feeling she does and yeah. MS has wrecked me over and over emotionally, it's embarrassing.
 
"The way this program is, how Mihoko lets the music be, it leaves Shoma with no choice but to fill the silence with his presence."

This is an incredible take on this program, very spot on.

IMO this music choice is a risk for a number if reasons. It takes such a talent and an incredibly powerful performer such as Shoma to pull this off.
He just exudes this energy that is so captivating when he is on like he was at the 4CC.

Do not get me wrong, but I would be happy to see a departure next season, though. His gala programs are just giving us a different side of his personality which could be explored even more in the future. :)
 
Do not get me wrong, but I would be happy to see a departure next season, though. His gala programs are just giving us a different side of his personality which could be explored even more in the future. :)

I actually share this view with you XD I think what I want most for Shoma aside from happiness and health is the opportunity for him to try as many different music style and genres as possible. His musicality and the way he approaches music with his skating is just too unique for him not to do it. Of course, it would be ideal to do it in a pace that's both comfortable but can challenge him at the same time.

And oh yes, the exhibition programs. Honestly, the first year I follow Shoma and not only he has a modern flamenco-rock/pure piano classic combo for his SP/FS, but old-school jazz (by DWilson) and club EDM (by Shae!!!!) for Galas. Just... so many new moves, timing, nuance and tone to learn! And for me to (luckily) watch sob. The sexy blades' weight changes in TAT!! The raw upper body movement in Grespi!! I don't know, but I also feel that working with new choreographers not only influence Shoma but also Mihoko? Aahhhh I love them learning and improving together.
 
Thank you for this post. I am always curious just how the music is chosen, and why, and can’t go beyond ‘perfect’ and ‘not another mellow melody...’ but that is a brilliant POV. I saw Vivaldi last season, so it never occurred to me to question the MS choice, I just assumed it is going to be mesmerizing
 
MW: ... This program is just really well performed, well executed, he uses this quiet subtlety to his advantage. We talk sometimes that the most powerful thing is silence, and this program has a silent element to it that is just really powerful....

Arriba, a big thanks for let us know about this interview and even transcribed Shoma's part!

Reading these comments, somehow I feel that "silence" mentioned by Michael Weiss may have similarities w/ "leaving blank" in Chinese painting (as my understanding).

Leaving blank, literally means “leaving white”, painters no need to draw anything on the (white) paper, which contrasts to other parts of painting. However, blank never means empty, and it’s left as blank intentionally. Moreover, the artistry or philosophy of painter is reflected by the parts leaving blank. It’s said that leaving blank is a very difficult technique.

So does the silent element in MS, silence/ quiet never means empty/ nothing, and how to execute this element reflects the artistry of skater.
 
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